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Was at Silverburn and the the Mearns shopping centre earlier today. A lot more folk than I expected for the time of day 11am-2pm.
I expect I passed more than a thousand people. I counted 17 people with “poppies” visible. 15 of them were of the “buy them once and re-use them every year” variety.
So not a lot of money going towards that particular cause this year.
But then, why would there be poppies on display this weekend? It’s not armistice day is it?
LMCBhoy on 5th November 2017 2:29 pm
I posted previously that the trip to Argentina was the start of something to me.
I have not heard the bigger interview yet but I remember writing in my notebook at School ” I am going to Argentina on Saturday to support Celtic!” and getting a row from wee Sister Magdalene at St Peter’s in Partick for telling lies.
Despite protesting that this was the truth she refused to believe me until later in the week my mum came into the school, and explained that I would be absent because I was going to Argentina to see Celtic play.
People have commented on my long-term memory before, as there are details and incidents that I can remember from very early in my childhood mostly related to the emotions and feelings I experienced at the time.
I wanted to drink the whole trip in and can remember the names of half the passengers on that flight, the details of the plane, the games played on the plane and the singsong which took place and the stories that were told.
It also helps that it is a memorable story with many more memorable stories within it including the conversion of the Brittania crew who all wore Celtic rosettes and scarves, the actions of Aerolineas Argentinas in providing green and white wrapped whisky and shortbread on the way to Montevideo, and the kindness and good humour of the Reverend Robert Jack from Iceland who followed Celtic everywhere.
There were so many characters, so many stories and so much to take in on that one trip — and of course, they have been told and repeated so many times down the years in true shanachie tradition.
That was the start for me, and I still get the same sense of excitement going on any plane to watch Celtic or support Celtic.
Exactly the same sensation came over me this year when we went to Lisbon.
A feeling of not so much going to watch Celtic, or celebrate Celtic, but that in a very small way you are Celtic, represent Celtic and that you can spread the word of Celtic.
Thousands of fans do that in Scotland, home and away, each week and many do it in all four corners of the earth.
Michael Kelly made a comment on twitter saying in Friday that he “had heard it all now” when the BBC were interviewing “A six year old” about events in Argentina.
To say he was disbelieving is an understatement.
So, I contacted him, made it clear that I was the six year old and at 56 I could remember an awful lot of the trip, including being totally terrified in the ground at Argentina.
However, his disbelief started to wane when I pointed out that on the trip his Uncle Bob gave me his Gold Celtic lapel pin simply because he wanted to make a fuss of a wee boy who had come all that way to see Celtic.
Some things you never forget. The incidents, and more importantly their significance, go through like a stick of rock.
I saw the greatest ever Celtic team lose to a mob who were terrified of letting them p;ay football — and I do mean terrified because even at the end of the second game there was a riot despite Racing winning.
The TV cameras only caught so much.
I wide-eyed 6 year old amidst a group of mad keen Celtic fans and the players saw and felt so much more!
HH
BRTH
Big Packy- most on here have had their moments, as Tony Soprano once said’ you can’t put the $#!te back in the donkey…’ , HH
hey lads remember being in the old jungle. must have been early sixties with my old man. crushed like sardines suddenly felt something warm on the back of my leg no toilets in the old jungle. lol.
you bhoys are so kind. proud to be one of you.
BRTH…did Michael Kelly ask you how much the beeb paid you for the interview? :-)
Big Packy…glad you’ve got your sober sensible hat on today…suits you better… :-) hh
Logical Song wins the Cork National and guess who never backed it !
WEEBOBBYCOLLINS sorry if i offended you last night sincere apologies.
WeeBobbyCollins
No — he started to tell me that his first Celtic memory was of going to a game and being terrified of Tiger Shaw!
Of course, there was no fee and had there been it would have gone to the Celtic Charity Foundation winter appeal.
I had a begrudging respect for Anne Budge, the business woman, when she took over at Hearts.
She had a strategy and a plan, and they wouldn’t be liquidated. She got the fans onside, and they went on the right direction.
On field performance, a return to the top league, and a new stand. It looked good.
Take the emotion out of it, setting aside our feelings about elements of their support, and their loathing of all things Celtic. Her lack of comment on their bigots.
Today in a BBC Sportsound interview, she came across as a business person who is hiding problems. Hearts will return to Tynecastle in 2 weeks. Selling tickets for an unfinished stand. She says she hopes nothing else can go wrong, but there have been suprises along the way and who knows. Pressed on the delays, and is it costing more money she said “i hope not”, but I dont know. And has there been a loss of revenue with the delay “i dont know” she says. She did say the loss of kiosk and hospitality revenue was offset by the higher attendances at Murrayfield. Which she described as a wonderful experience.
The seating areas and pitch side will be ready. But lounges, offices, a nursery and other elements wont be ready till after january, and then after the summer for total completion. Normally in the building/construction environment, there would be penalties for late delivery, unless you as the client have changed specs, or were responsible for the procurement of some element of the build (seats . kitchens, maybe). Another reason for lateness might be staged payments for percentage progress not being met, then contractors down tools. She did not come across convincing at all.
It left me thinking, in December they host both us and Hibs. And another 5 home fixtures over nov/dec. Why not stay at Murrayfield and have the added revenue of 30,000+ crowds.
There is something not right in the plan.
Hell mend them.
Big Pack..no sireee! I have rhino thick skin. Never offended…
jayden stockley scores 2 times for exeter city .can’t remember where i know the name from.
BIG PACKY on 4TH NOVEMBER 2017 10:52 PM
WEEBOBBYCOLLINS CELT55. i know rabs cousin. believe me hes an out and out hun so go and put that in your pipe and smoke it.
*Wispy’s brother used tae wander about the Burroughs factory in Cumbernauld wearing a deidco scarf, didnae make Willie a hun. As far as I recall Rab the mason (stone version BTW) supported the steel men.
BRTH…are you aware that the fines imposed by Sir Robert were donated to the authorities in Portugal after severe flooding in the country…It was a consequence of the great kindness shown to the club and fans by the Portuguese in May…
Jimmynotpaul on 5th November 2017 2:19 pm
Sorry for late reply
visitors on a Sunday whats things coming to.
I saw James Forrest facebook article……….. he is usually there or there abouts on most things, but he spends to much time on “them” for me so onlt tend to read recommended articles
Agree the lying hun is definitely hurting……. but not enough for me
HH
WEEBOBBYCOLLINS on 4TH NOVEMBER 2017 10:32 PM
Silly comment re Rab Douglas didn’t want Celtic to win in Seville…
*I though Bobo was more to blame leaving us shorthanded. Now if that had been said about Vidal Sassoon hmmmm.
Brogan Rogan Trevino and Hogan on 5th November 2017 2:57 pm
Do you still have the pin?
if so would love to see it …..some day
HH
big packy on 5th November 2017 3:29 pm
:-))
HH
weebobbycollins on 5th November 2017 3:41 pm
I knew that the fines were given to charity but didn’t know the charity concerned.
I don’t know if it made the interview or not, but I said that on reflection I think Celtic were wrong to fine the players in the way that they did and for the sums that they did which was an awful lot of money at the time.
Those players were employees of the club and had little or no say in whether or not to play in Montevideo.
Whilst it is all very well for Bob Kelly (a genuinely nice man), other directors and even big Jock to have decided to play the game, they were not the people out on the pitch suffering the abuse, the aggravation, potential injury, threats and all sorts of disgusting behaviour.
Celtic had a duty to those employees who had served them so well and so famously and they should have recognised that these same players were being placed in a position where their safety and future careers were in danger.
There is no doubt that Jimmy Johnstone, in particular, could have received a career-threatening injury. It is sheer luck that whatever was thrown at Ronnie Simpson did not inflict permanent damage and cause something far worse than him simply being unable to play.
During the footage of the first game, you can see how concerned the Celtic players are when Simpson gets injured in that way. There is real fear and concern, and no employer should place an employee in that situation.
The game was not a FIFA approved contest and was outwith the jurisdiction of UEFA (not that this should have mattered) and there was more illegal activity on the field, in terms of the rules of football, than there was legal activity. This was not a football match.
In every book I have read about the third game, every single Celtic player has apologised for letting the club and its support down on that day. However, to a man, they speak of unbelievable and unacceptable provocation and harassment.
Looking back, I don’t think Celtic should have fined them at all. They could have condemned the retaliation, and the behaviour leading to the sendings off as part of a statement from club and players totally condemning the behaviour of the Argentinians and officially declaring that the club would not recognise the tie as an official fixture at all.
To be fair to the board, none of them were professionally trained or equipped to deal with a situation like this — absolutely no one in football was, and it is very easy to be clever in hindsight from the comfort of my living room.
But if one of those players had received a really serious Joe McBride like injury would it have been right to fine them?
As for the floods in Portugal – I would have been all for Celtic making a contribution to that cause – but depriving the players of the promised bonus for winning the League Cup was not the way to do it in my opinion.
Also, from a management perspective, all the fine succeeded in doing is creating a rift between the Lions and the club management, something that re-emerged in the lead up to Milan.
For me, it was a bad decision all round.
dena29 on 5th November 2017 3:53 pm
Sad to say I don’t have the pin. Regrettably, it was placed on my jacket lapel by Bob Kelly but “disappeared” later in the trip when I wasn’t wearing the jacket concerned.
My mother and father always had a view on that which is best left unsaid.
Tontine…yes, you could point one finger at Bobo and another at Douglas…but we lost as a team. I was more angry at the Porto players, especially their goalkeeper Baia…However, it was a great journey and I’ll never forget the nights at Anfield and then at Boavista…celebrating till the wee small hours with Porto fans who had just beaten Roma?
BROGAN ROGAN TREVINO AND HOGAN @ 4:08
Parents know best :-((
HH
BRTH…changed days. It couldn’t happen today. I mentioned on Friday that an Argentinian whom I worked with had said we were very naive. He was referring specifically to the players but he could have said that of the whole Celtic group. I agree the players were in a very nasty situation. You can see the stunned look on some of their faces. The sight of soldiers and police with guns would have unsettled them, never mind the violence they were subjected to by the Argentinian players…and then to be reprimanded and fined was ridiculous…
Re the donation to Portugal–can you imagine the headline today…
“Celtic Donate Funds to Fascist Government” :-)
WEEBOBBYCOLLINS
It was Lazio not Roma.I got my ticket for Seville from a Lazio supporter
Porto won 4-1 in Portugal .Game in Rome was 0-0.Porto were nauseating in that game.Even worse than Seville.!
FRED C. DOBBS on 4TH NOVEMBER 2017 11:58 PM
The Lawman “celebrates
*should have been hunted for that, actually he was told by former apprentice brickie lol Tony Book that he would spend the next season in the reserves so he retired, FFS it’s no as if manure were his boyhood team, the sheep were. Man City also gave him his big chance when they broke the UK record tae sign him, in fact he turned Matt Busby down tae sign for them.
As for being a manure legend, probably, but Bobby Charlton and Wayne Rooney scored more goals for the club than him. He did turn doon deidco for Maine Road when he left Huddersfield though.
Weebobbycollins
It was Lazio that Porto had beaten in the semi final
Pedantic Pat
Not sure if it’s a repeat, CL programme on BT 1 featuring KT just starting
BROGAN ROGAN TREVINO AND HOGAN on 5TH NOVEMBER 2017 11:52 AM
On a completely separate note, when it comes to Poppies or no Poppies — I just choose to remember Clydebank. Apologies to those who have read it before, and for the length, but it needs saying and then said again!
https://broganrogantrevinoandhogan.wordpress.com/2013/11/09/death-on-the-clyde-the-politicians-poppycock/
*I’ve always had a certain affinity with Clydebank, never lived there but something about the place I’ve always liked.
Could be that my mother had an ould auntie who lived across from John Browns and who she would take me tae visit as a wee bhoy. I remember standing in her bay window watching the workmen leaving and spilling ontae Dumbarton Road.
Or could be the spell I had working up in Wester Duntiglennan (as it was called then after the farm) which meant getting the train to and from Singers Station.
There was also the spell I had at Clydebank Tech which I preferred tae Stowe and Anniesland where I also went. Still visit the shopping centre when on holiday.
Ooops I forgot the Dalmuir flats, great job and great wee Coop bakery which sold cream custard and raspberry filled cookies (no biscuits).
However, it’s probably all they wee Bankie lassies that went tae Notre Dame in Dumbarton when I was a wee bhoy.
It definitely wisnae the ash park doon at the Clyde.
I have a book here on the Blitz called ‘River of Fire” by John MacLeod. I don’t think there was a street untouched and the town was never the same again. My mother, a young teenager living in Alexandria at the time, said the ground shook down there.
A few years back on another Celtic site Clydebank was voted the capital of Timdom.
Catch you later bhoys am away to watch BT 1
HH
The truly Vile side of Argentine football reached it’s height in the InterContinental Cup game in 69 between Estudantes and Milan.So bad that the Argentine Govt sought and got jail time for some of the Estudantes players.Very cynical -World Cup 78 was on the line.
Just got sent an Invincible 63 picture from our own 67Heaven
Leigh Griffiths at the darts last night
63 & Counting
Absolutely Brilliant :-)
G, not letting me copy and paste over, please copy onto CQN
Correct guys..it was Lazio not Roma…
Man U defender scores one of the best OGs that you’ll ever see but the Ref rules it out.
& now Bayoko misses a sitter after defender leaves cross ball through his legs.
First EPL game I’ve watched this year & not overly impressed so far.
KT was only on for a few minutes on the BT programme but that young Bhoy is just as impressive off the park as he is on it, we are lucky to have him, hope he stays for many years to come
BROGAN ROGAN TREVINO AND HOGAN on 5TH NOVEMBER 2017 2:57 PM
I saw the greatest ever Celtic team lose to a mob who were terrified of letting them play football — and I do mean terrified because even at the end of the second game there was a riot despite Racing winning.
*I must admit that I didnae think we would win in Lisbon and I’m no a pessimist and wisnae a wee bhoy either, this was Inter FGS, until I left Mass at St Martin’s that morning and one of my da’s workmates said he thought we would as he reckoned big Jock was playing mind games with the tallies (as he called them) in saying that he was just happy that we had reached the final, the first british club to do so.
I was convinced though we would win in South America; we were that good back then, even though we were out of Europe we had just won our 3rd LC in a row 4 days earlier in an amazing goal fest at hampden. We were still second in the League though but the team at the top fired their manager while we were out of town.
BROGAN ROGAN TREVINO AND HOGAN on 5TH NOVEMBER 2017 4:05 PM
weebobbycollins on 5th November 2017 3:41 pm
I knew that the fines were given to charity but didn’t know the charity concerned. don’t know if it made the interview or not, but I said that on reflection I think Celtic were wrong to fine the players in the way that they did and for the sums that they did which was an awful lot of money at the time.
*I thought that it was a bit hard especially on John Fallon although I was later led to believe that the players received an unexpected bonus later on which was the equivalent of the fine
That’s a shame, another 3 drop ooot LMS9 today, so it’s 8 for the weekend :-)))
TONTINE TIM
I went to Lisbon believing Celtic would win .Inter were on the slide/the players were p’d off with Mad mental paranoid Herrera etc.I went to Milan thinking We would lose .I’d watched Feyenoord humping a vg Milan in Rotterdam .Seville ?50 -50.but I was mighty anxious re their cheating approach to the game.