It is a measure of the impact someone has made that even after they have moved on, superstitions about them endure. For some, there’s an almost religious believe that a huge figure cannot be diminished by retirement, loss of status or even death (there’s a special 1970s category for Elvis and Bruce Lee).
Prepare yourself: Peter Lawwell is not Elvis Presley. He can’t sing like Elvis, he seldom dresses like him and under no circumstances should you confuse the supernatural powers attributed to ‘The King’ in the late 70s to our former chief executive.
Peter retired on appointing Ange Postecoglou in the summer of 2021, when Dominic McKay started his summer placement in charge. By September, Michael Nicholson, previously company secretary and in-house lawyer, was temporarily then permanently given the top job.
18 months after he left, Lawwell agreed to replace Ian Bankier as chairman. As Celtic’s representative, Peter was on the board of the European Club Association (currently vice chair) and was working with Uefa on the new Financial Sustainability Regulations. It suited the club and our interests that Peter take the role, allowing him to extend Celtic’s influence at Uefa.
Back when Elvis’ died, football club chairmen carried executive roles. They often opened the doors in the morning, did the accounts, sorted the banking and were always responsible for player contracts and budgeting. The role has changed. Lots.
In a modern PLC, a chairman is a non-executive, “unconnected with the day-to-day management of a business and which is instead concerned with effective management of the board”. That means they are unconnected to player contracts, signing strategies or – and I cannot be clearer on this one – managerial appointments.
Such matters are reserved for the executive team and any major shareholders they are answerable to. At Celtic, this is Michael Nicholson and Dermot Desmond.
Peter Lawwell was a huge influence in Scottish football and a significant figure in Europe. Without him at the helm in 2012, Newco Rangers would have been voted into the SPL, debt free and ready to go again. Back then I got some credit for starting a campaign on this issue, but take my word for it, all credit was due to Peter. He fought and won the most intense battle Scottish football has ever seen, and like Keyser Soze, he left everyone searching in the shadows.
We scarcely got to see Dom McKay and Michael Nicholson has had two and a half years of low-profile management, a benefit of inheriting a club on the up. As a consequence, when people think ‘Celtic board’ they assume Elvis lives. In every meaningful way, Elvis has left the building. He doesn’t sing the songs or choose the band. If you think otherwise, you’re howling at the (blue) moon, and ironically, applying absolutely no pressure to the wound.
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Melvin Udall
Thats a fine bit of typing hahahaha,not a smiley on show,
May i ask permission to have a game of ‘wally’ while i am in your head? Plenty of space i see, but i am saddened thats twice youv promised not to come on and broke it,you cant be honest wi yourself,do you think i bother bout yir tantrum,
run along
Clunks
Getting late . Can you clear out some of the dross that’s been posted tonight.
Some nasty accusations flying about coupled some disgusting language.
It can only get worse.
Hail Hail
Just wondering if young vata could fill the left back roll . Would hate to see TR put in at left back ,I don’t think he is comfortable there . Sutton1888 you need to cut out the choice language , and the guys of the Peter lawwell brigade should also cut out the idiot , clown, bedwetter attacks on fellow celts who have a different opinion to them . Anyway HH to all
J.K Fearon/user/Angry etc…etc
Hahahaha in the simple world you live in.
Your a fake as your irish north lanarkshire dialect
Well said Melvin.
He speaks for the many, not the few.
Some folk on here getting a little too big for their boots. ……..
“When the debate is lost, slander become the tool of the losers”
I believe Socrates (The Greek, not the Brazilian footballer) said that back in the day.
I also believe An Tearmann met him outside the Coliseum one day, by pure chance!
Who’d thunk it!!!
Lets make the blog welcoming to everyone.
AN TEARMANN on 6TH FEBRUARY 2024 11:29 PM
Melvin Udall
Thats a fine bit of typing hahahaha,not a smiley on show,
May i ask permission to have a game of ‘wally’ while i am in your head? Plenty of space i see, but i am saddened thats twice youv promised not to come on and broke it,you cant be honest wi yourself,do you think i bother bout yir tantrum,
run along
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😂😂😂
Run along.
Nice try ya stupid auld fecker.
I’ve had a lot of issues recently, that I couldn’t deal with along with your pish, but am totally ok with telling you how it is now ya total knob! 😂😂😂
You have put a lot of people off posting on this blog, which you should be pulled up for, as you contribute nothing but spew!
You are a keyboard Hardman, who would fold in the face of confrontation.
BSR @ 6:38pm
Thank you for link to Brendan’s media conference.
Guy is either a brilliant actor or he is relaxed about the challenge ahead.
Which starts tomorrow.
Can’t wait.
Goodnight CQN.
Peterlatchfordsbelly
Agree re lack of leaders.
I actually think Taylor is a miss in that regard also.
We need Matt O and and and ????? Not sure who else quite frankly ….. to step up.
Tomorrows team will be interesting.
Maeda will surely start. Although Easter Rd is not his favourite place.
Welsh and Scales probably at CB. Although I do think Nawrocki’s issue was the early and unfair booking on Saturday and then a. Fear of a red card. So maybe he could start.
Perhaps even a 3 5 2 ?
418
The ticket price is a fact but what you made of it is in your head and frankly that is not a place I would now wish to visit.
You have your opinion on Res12 and its effectiveness.
If you thought it through and you clearly have not, it was not Res12 that failed, it set out the facts, unfortunately the supporters who did buy the £49 STs did not think they meant anything.
That is not down to Res12.
Now gies peace.
JK Fearon/user/Angry etc etc
boots can never be big enough for fake/false name changing multimonikers like you,no debate bout that.
You in your fakery called a poster- Tontine a tout for calling out poor language on these pages.
Melvin Udall
I am not source of any of your issues
If it helps typin abuse at me i doubt it,fire in.
I doubt it tho and if you pause and think,you know i am right.
I answered your abuse post as you promised now 3 times that was your last to me.At least your back to your smileys,small steps and i wish you well,but i am going nowhere,the only problems i have here are with fake monikers who hide behind the keyboard to dole out abuse havent met them,Their abuse only details their own limitations.
follow your own advise and dont post to me.
I am the opposite of what you portray,i have no worries meeting Celts here.i do wish you well in your ongoin health troubles
Setting free the bears
Any update on Mitchel Frame? I would have thought he would be in the 1st team pool at least as Greg Taylor is out.
HH
ADI_DASSLER NOT FOR 2ND BEST on 6TH FEBRUARY 2024 9:16 PM
Auldheid
You have no need to justify anything.
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I know. particularly to 418 who does not realise its not the fault of Res12 shareholders (not me) that neither Celtic nor the support thought in large enough numbers something so corrupt was going on that they should stop enjoying the footy at the weekend to put it right.
Sad really.
P67 ? . Sorry, but culpable in takin sides.
An Tearmann.
You’re cards are marked mo chara. ……
I, and many others are no longer going to tolerate your ignorant behaviour on here any longer.
You’ll be called out on it. Every time.
Spoofing on here with your cac bó tales, the self proclaimed authority on everything and anything.
You must have been a nightmare in your formative years, someone should have knocked the corners off you long ago along with that chip on your shoulder.
Empty vessels make most sound.
The vast majority of people on here do not want, nor need your advice, so as Melvin so eloquently put it earlier, put a sock in it. No one cares.
If you need someone to listen to you drone on, call the Samaritans. It’s free. And they’re trained to listen to shoite.
AULDHEID on
418
The ticket price is a fact but what you made of it is in your head and frankly that is not a place I would now wish to visit.
You have your opinion on Res12 and its effectiveness.
If you thought it through and you clearly have not, it was not Res12 that failed, it set out the facts, unfortunately the supporters who did buy the £49 STs did not think they meant anything.
That is not down to Res12.
Now gies peace.
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Auldheid, it dizny matter what the resolution is called or what number it is….if you don’t have an uppity Celtic executive then you are onto plums.
How about this angle that nobody has broached before….
A Celtic exec that would insist that innocent Rangers fans should not have been punished for David Murray`s crooked schemes EBT`s etc…and so Celtic would have insisted that Rangers be kept in the SPL and not liquidated and all financial penalties to be sent to David Murray?
Until such honesty is on the table….Scottish football cannot be trusted.
What did Rangers fans do that they had to be punished?
What if Celtic PLC is up to crooked stuff right now that no one knows about then it all comes out and Celtic fans lose their club for things that they knew nothing of….would we not be going bonkers as well?
How about Resolution straight talk straight to the point all of the time?
How about straight out with “We believe the game to be crooked since the PLC era in football or from Thatcher introduced all seating turning fans into customers” as Fergus wasn`t shy of reminding us.
Jeremy Corbyn proposed outlawing billionaires starting with football ownership.
JC also put it to Newcastle fans that he would propel their requests for the removal of all seating as it was sucking the atmosphere out of stadiums and fans were paying for a seat and then standing up to see the game which shouldn`t be the case, but it is the case in virtually every stadium…Thatcher was a witch.
JC had the answers, recognition of the State of Palestine and a peaceful Reunification of the island of Ireland and Celtic fans stabbed him in the back and voted for the Androgynous Party of Liars and 33` Crooks wearing kilts.
Speak to fans like you were standing next to them in the Jungle not like asking them the latest rocket science codes or Resolution Transhuman Lizard blood cell count at 33” under water.
As it stands Celtic PLC got Rangers off with the biggest sporting crime by saying nothing and recruiting Brendan 1 to disguise their old firm ticket deceit and it was deceit Silent deceit to fix the tickets and Auldheid is acting all goofy as if he dizny know.
You gie me peace.
Sleekit Teary mann getting his just deserts good!
If you know a wee bit about code etc….
You will know that 418 is basically a code for ‘I’m a Teapot’
Except on CQN when it is generally recognised as a code stating that…..
‘I’m a Crackpot’
And so the story goes……
JK Fearon /User/ Angry and various otber fake monikers
My cards been marked by an anonymous multimoniker.brilliant,thumbs up haha.
Fake moniker your as shallow as much as you lack
confidence in your trolling Sure was i not a prodigy,who met the pope and asked him down to Bellahouston for a game of 5s as a child,but he only had time for mass.Did you not get that Edit JK.poor gleaning/trolling epitomized by your Samaritans jibe,just shows how rancid and multi featured your personas are,there your different monikers reflect only on you.
Keep makin it up
Keep it anonymous JK fearon/user/Angryffm
Paul 67
I hope you take this in the spirit of healing it is offered.
Us human beings have way of convincing ourselves that we are doing the right thing and it is the consequences that tell us if we got it right or wrong.
You can ignore it or pass it on as a suggestion to end division. There will be no healing until trust is restored.
That requires the truth and the courage to tell it but one truth for sure is a house divided cannot stand.
Paul 67
I’m no moon howler and don’t subscribe to the view Peter Lawwell (PL) is in a position to significantly interfere in CEO Michael Nicholson’s duties but there are good reasons why supporters think he will have some influence on recruitment not just via his son but also on his past record , where good reasons exist to mistrust him and anything you say in his defence.
Here they are:
# You said – Back then I got some credit for starting a campaign on this issue, but take my word for it, all credit was due to Peter.
## I ask. Is that why you point blank refused to include the UEFA Licence 2011 issue in that campaign in spite of being told shareholders had more locus to seek answers on that issue than the Judicial Review campaign that put the focus on LNS findings?
You were following orders?
# He fought and won the most intense battle Scottish football has ever seen, and like Keyser Soze, he left everyone searching in the shadows.
##I think supporters of all clubs can claim they played significant part in winning that battle when they let their club owners know such a result was unacceptable.
# We scarcely got to see Dom McKay and Michael Nicholson has had two and a half years of low-profile management, a benefit of inheriting a club on the up. As a consequence, when people think ‘Celtic board’ they assume Elvis lives. In every meaningful way, Elvis has left the building. He doesn’t sing the songs or choose the band. If you think otherwise, you’re howling at the (blue) moon, and ironically, applying absolutely no pressure to the wound.
## As I said in intro I’m not a believer that PL rules the roost, one being I have met both he and Michael Nicholson and whilst MN is quiet by nature I don’t see him taking the job without putting certain assurances in place to retain his autonomy and self respect. I have heard of an instance where he has done that and know he was responsible for starting the process that saw reimbursed Res12 legal cost finding its way into The Foundation’s 2022 Christmas appeal.
I think that during the years in pursuit of Res12 MN acted as honourably and truthfully as he could under direction.
I wish I could say the same for PL in terms of honesty for the following reasons:
R1. PL’s denial of seeing the 5 Way agreement at 2019 AGM has masked that he never answered the question in full where he was asked if anyone from Celtic was involved in 5 Way Agreement.
Rather than answer that he laughed that he hadn’t even seen it and stood by that when question asked again at 2023 AGM.
It stretches credibility too far to believe that no one in the executive team at Celtic played a part in the 5WA negotiations and PL was not kept abreast of its development. If that is true then they should all be sacked for the damage the 5WA has done to integrity of Scottish football.
In the 5WA there was a clause R2ngers used to stop SFA doing any domestic investigation that required any contentious matters arising from 5WA to be referred to the Court of Arbitration for Sport. That was in 2012. In 2013 Res12 asked that UEFA investigate the process under which a UEFA licence was granted to Rangers in 2011.
Why were shareholders not told UEFA could not be the adjudicating body and the matter would have to be taken up with CAS via the SFA rather than SFA only, confined to Scotland because of an Agreement Celtic accepted? If because no one at Celtic knew about the contents of the 5WA that is a sanctioning matter, if someone did know but said nothing that is a sacking matter.
R2 In August 2018 this document at
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ESN0Aw6VJerHSSZv8_eq10BAjYg7rjaz/view
was handed over to PL and MN, witnessed by blogger James Forrest and CSA Vice President John Andrews. That was a meeting you declined to attend.
Both witnesses can testify that the suggestion on document handover was the document should be taken to UEFA to either state UEFA FFP in respect of overdue tax had been observed in 2011 or there had been a breach and if the former then Res12 simply ends on basis of no breach.. If the latter, then Celtic have a problem.
At the end of the 2018 AGM I was approached by John Andrews who said it was obvious Celtic had not acted on the information provided in August having used the argument it was an issue to be settled between the SFA and R2angers!
R3 Subsequently at the 2019 AGM PL provided justification for removing shareholder locus to pursue Res12 stating that breaches of FFP in the monitoring period did not attract sanctions (like a license refusal ) until the following season.
Whilst this is true, the breach did not take place in the Monitoring Period that started 26 May 2011 but in the Granting period ending 26th May and the document handed over in August 2018 would have proved (or not) that a breach had occurred in the Grant period had UEFA been asked to look at it.
(The 2019 AGM is the same one that the half reply to the 5WA question was made, referred to earlier.)
Truth and Reconciliation.
Why your blog fails to change minds and is reflected in comments on it is the belief that PL misled shareholders in the pursuit of Resolution 12 from 2013 .
In doing so trust was broken between The Board/PL and until that is addressed it renders your efforts at redemption that I would welcome with open arms ineffective.
The full truth would be a more rewarding path and courageous path to reconciliation than half truths and dare I say it lies.
So in that spirit I offer this in PL’s defence and in the pursuit of the truth in the hope of it resulting in reconciliation for not pursuing the justice and SFA reform that Res12 sought.
It is possible PL may have been under pressure from Infantino at UEFA after May 2012 when PL wrote this letter to Regan at SFA, copied to Infantino at UEFA in respect of Rangers use of ebts.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1C8BvxddEbtQKL-rAa1yWZ6X5SOSNcdUk/edit#heading=h.gjdgxs
Infantino was in charge of the development of FFP so would know UEFA rules back to front. He would know about Art 47 requiring a “fair presentation” of accounts.
Did the accounts Rangers provided from 2001 in respect of EBTS meet the fair presentation requirement, especially after 2005 when HMRC questioned their lawful use when asking about side letters to De Boer and Flo in respect of DOS Ebts and from 2007 when HMRC Determinations of tax owed due to Big Tax Case ebts arrived at Ibrox?
Did those accounts for those years under HMRC question reflect a contingent liability arising from the questionable use of ebts with secret side letters?
The money paid into EBTS was described in total in the Rangers accounts but not who to and for whom Rangers would be liable to pay unpaid back tax because of side letters that is a contingent liability with reasons..
Attention to this aspect was drawn from a Court of Arbitration for Sport ruling on Giannina FC about overdue tax that uncovered the use of 5 private agreements with players not fairly accounted for under Art 47 of FFP and a further reason to refuse Giannina a licence see –
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/search?q=Court%20type:pdf
Was PL under pressure from Infantino to keep the lid on the feared consequences of Rangers being granted UEFA licenses during all of the time they used ebts unlawfully?
Is there a reply from Infantino to the May letter that explains me hearing “You do not want to bite the hand that feeds you” (without the hand being specified?)
So if PL wants to lose his Elvis status as someone not to be trusted, I believe the only path is one of truth then reconciliation that can end of the toxic division that exists between the support and The Board and is a betrayal of the ethos of truth on which Celtic was founded .
The truth that shall set us free.
Celtic Mac
How you doin? A wee bit of news,OT67 is moving from Larbert Hosp to Falkirk community Hospital U5,as his review is ongoing to be getting out.
I seen him saturday for a couple of hours,chatted and walked along his then ward corridor,then seen the 5pm football results.His wounds from fall have healed well,eating well etc.just itchin to get out,He is a good ol soul.
Hail Hail
Auldheid , I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again – it’s you that deserves the statue outside of Celtic Park
an tearmann
Hey Big Fellah
My cousin had suggested that Old Tim67 would possibly be moved to the Community Hospital, which I think is the old Infirmary en route back home, giving time to set up the care package etc. Will try and get an update tomorrow. Need a win tomo followed by a win in the Cup Sunday, and, hoping against hope here, a home draw in the QF, and a possible meet up? Old Tim could talk Celtic all day long, good times bad times, but he would never ever have a bad word to say about the Club that he and his brothers and sister supported their whole lives. Celtic Football Club.
PLO songs in the jungle.
Are you sure it’s not Electric Light Orchestra ( ELO ) . Easy mistake. 🙂
Mr Blue Sky was fab at the time as was Don’t bring me down.
Good morning bhoys from a -5 Garngad, scrapey, ice thingy today. Brrrr
COYBIG tonight let’s put Hibs to the sword by finding some form.
HH
D. :)
Good Morning Celts – Grand Day To Be A Tim…
AULDHEID @ 1:13 AM,
Excellent post, the facts and details tells it how it is.
Like me, many appreciate the time, effort and resources you ghuys put in.
Keep~on~keeping~on
Looking forward to the game tonight, we finished on Saturday with a 4-4-2, maybe we’ll start with that tonight.
Aff-oot
Hail Hail
Where is that BRRB character?
And Big Jimmy hope you are well.
D. :)
A great piece by P67, I am only sorry that I was not in a position to answer yesterday.
It is all based on fact and not by the bile that drives those who spit out the names of PL, DD, ML, and the Strachans, on here and other forums.
Celtic is in a strong position because of DD and PL, not despite them.
The barrack-room lawyers, albeit starting out with good intention, made not one iota of difference to the outcome of the Ibrox club’s demise and its subsequent re-emergence with a new company number – Sevco Scotland trading as The Rangers.
Res 12, 5 Way Agreement et al became a vanity and virtue-signalling sideshow that goes on to this day, twelve years later – a hammer to beat the Celtic board for apparently doing nothing -and still the dogs do not put down the bone. The whole thing is now as relevant as the anti-supporters of the GB and the mob that tarnishes our name singing about dead Rangers people and “joining the IRA” at home and away fixtures. Celtic (PL) of course was doing very important work behind the scenes and creating no ballyhoo, unlike the “we know better” mob, which gestured and ruminated in ignorance for its own amusement.
Rangers did not receive adequate punishment for their actions, however the consequences suffered were far greater that we could have ever hoped for, or, demanded – starting up again in the fourth-tier, taking five years to climb back, badly wounded, to the top tier, years of banishment from Europe and all players who could command a significant transfer fee TUEPED out of the premises.
Celtic didn’t get down into the hole with Rangers when the sh*t storm was raging, as many on here wanted; had it gone down that road we would have got splattered in a melee of “they said, we said” and the perception of the world at large would have been that it was an ‘Old Firm’ bust-up, or, even worse, that Celtic was intent on kicking its closest rival when it was down. Those echoes would still remain today.
Finally it does no good at all to bring up the name of Dominic McKay as a stick to beat the board. He was lauded as a messiah, all past Celtic triumphs and successes were as nothing as soon as he entered the building. Those who fondly look back (and still post) on his ‘ten minutes’ at Celtic should remember the following facts. We lost Eddie Howe, a manager whom we had gone all in on, and James McCarthy was given a four year lucrative contract. Thirty odd trophies and being the most financially successful entity ever in Scottish sport apparently meant nothing. Peter Lawwell and Michael Nicholson stepped in and secured Ange and the rest is history. Dominic McKay was an oval ball in a round hole and his leaving was in the best interests of our club.
Greg Aitken on VAR, go and research all about him & maybe then our gutless board will call them out and bring in foreign officials.
Another game, another Goldson volley ball session goes unchecked.
It wasn’t just the VAR. Beaton was at it. I called the two handballs in real time, Beaton should be seeing them and making the call.
Robertson was it not
Rangers fans ‘electric’ behind their team as they hold on for a 2-1 statement victory to draw level with Celtic.
Celtic fans boo their team off the park after a 1-0 win to retain top spot and a 6th win in a row.
Which team would you think would go on the win the league ? Which fans are entitled ?
Celtic Mac
Thanks for the update and any info re Old Tim. A really good guy.
CELTIC MAC on 7TH FEBRUARY 2024 12:50 AM
If you know a wee bit about code etc….
You will know that 418 is basically a code for ‘I’m a Teapot’
Except on CQN when it is generally recognised as a code stating that…..
‘I’m a Crackpot’
And so the story goes……
___________________________
I’ve always presumed that 418 was code for “For Adolf Hitler”…🤔
18 Yard Man – Comabt 18 would have been too obvious :)
or even Combat…
Darwin
Far too much sense there. It will never catch on sir.
I would ask 2 things :
Was Dominic McKay (who I have previous business experience of) managed effectively ? The chair was not a strong one at the time and DD was not so close to it all. If he had been on a tighter brief or better supported could it have worked ?
Who negotiated the JJ and GG deals. These seem to have been flawed.
B78
Which fans do you reckon are more pleased, given their current financial situations, with the efforts of their board to maximise their chances of winning the league ? (and btw, i most definitely do not agree with booing the team)