The SPL deadline for clubs to provide information on improper registration of players was six weeks ago today but the league has yet to report findings to clubs, while the chief executive rallies support to allow a Newco access to the league.
Time has expired on this policy of non-disclosure until it’s too late.
If the SPL chief executive ever tells us that Rangers fielded improperly registered players between 2000 and 2012, resulting in years of 3-0 defeats being awarded, there will be an enormous amount of anger, not only among supporters, but in boardrooms across the country, as they ponder money which was rightfully theirs but which went to Rangers – perhaps including Rangers prize money for finishing second this season.
We have made an attempt to quantify this money. Some of the losses were easier to calculate than others. For example, it was easy to calculate that when Rangers won the title in 2009 with improperly registered players, earning automatic qualification to the Champions League group stage, they denied Celtic £15m European earnings, plus £340k SPL prize money. Other losses are less clear, specifically when a club was denied a place in a qualifying round for the Champions League or Uefa Cup, which they may or may not have progressed from.
We have established three figures for each club in the SPL during the season just finished, to cover the period from 2000 to 2012:
Minimum loss:
The absolute minimum each club was denied from European and SPL prize money as a result of Rangers finishing above them with ineligible players.
Weighted loss:
The figure based on Scottish clubs gaining entry to Champions League/Europa League (Uefa Cup) group stages from 20% of their qualifying campaigns (which is slightly less than trend).
Maximum loss:
The maximum a club could have achieved if it qualified for the European group stage it was denied entry to.
Out estimates take no account of the subsequent effect money has on future years. For example, If Celtic earned an additional £15m from entering the Champions League group stage in 2009-10 their league challenge for that season would have been £15m stronger, and Rangers £15m weaker, potentially resulting in consequences in future years.
This multiplier effect would have benefited Celtic but it would be likely to have a greater effect on other clubs, some of whom would be denied the enormous percentage increase in budget automatic qualification to European group stages would have brought.
Hearts finished immediately behind Celtic and Rangers more often than any other club over the period and suffer the greatest potential losses, even more so than Celtic. Hibernian, Aberdeen, Dundee United and Motherwell also suffered significant losses.
Several clubs got nowhere near European football over the period, and some of the 11 spent only a few years in the SPL but each club lost over £1m.
Figures for each club are:
Hearts
Maximum: £72.3m
Weighted: £16.3m
Minimum: £6.2m
Celtic
Maximum: £46.7m
Weighted: £21.9m
Minimum: £17.4m
Hibernian
Maximum: £34.8m
Weighted: £8.4m
Minimum: £3.6m
Aberdeen
Maximum: £21.1m
Weighted: £5.5m
Minimum: £2.7m
Dundee United
Maximum: £20.8m
Weighted: £5.2m
Minimum: £2.4m
Motherwell
Maximum: £16.7m
Weighted: £4.4m
Minimum: £2.1m
Kilmarnock
Maximum: £5.1m
Weighted: £1.9m
Minimum: £1.3m
Dunfermline
Maximum: £3.4m
Weighted: £1.8m
Minimum: £1.5m
Inverness
Maximum: £1.3m
Weighted: £1.3m
Minimum: £1.3m
St Johnstone
Maximum: £1.1m
Weighted: £1.1m
Minimum: £1.1m
St Mirren
Maximum: £1.1m
Weighted: £1.1m
Minimum: £1.1m
In the event Rangers fielded ineligible players during the period under consideration, which everyone apart from Neil Doncaster knows, and even he will be unable to deny next week, we know the following:
Rangers received a minimum of £40.9m which should have gone to the 11 other clubs, assuming each club lost all their European group stage qualifying campaigns. This calculation does not include earnings from clubs now in the Scottish Football League, such as Hamilton Accies or Dundee.
If Scottish clubs progressed to the group stages of European competition on only 20% of their qualifying campaigns the loss would be £69.0m.
The figure for total potential losses if clubs successfully progressed to every European group stage is, as the figure for 100% failure, more illustrative than likely, but the maximum cost to the 11 SPL clubs is £224.6m.
Results will be changed, trophies can and will, be re-awarded, but these are the harsh financial consequences clubs, their lawyers and supporters, will consider when the facts are presented to them next week. The SPL executive has had six weeks to consider if there is sufficient evidence to commence disciplinary proceedings; they have failed to do so. They have failed you and every other football supporter in the land, while shamelessly pursuing an accommodation for the errant club BEFORE REVEALING THE FACTS TO YOU.
Time will be up soon, Mr Doncaster. You’ve had your chance but you have convinced no one. The people who really matter in this entire debacle are those who buy tickets for Celtic Park, Pittodrie, Easter Road, Tynecastle, Tannadice, Fir Park and the rest, they will hear the truth and read these figures. You have failed them.
You can read our calculations here. European income figures were sources from Uefa data.
Celtic’s disadvantage deepened when their winger John Doyle was sent off ten minutes into the second half for kicking the scorer, but there was an equaliser from Aitken, who was especially suited to a night of such fervour and force. Never bashful, Aitken was stimulated by the challenge of being in an outnumbered line-up.
From Celtic: A Biography in Nine Lives, by Kevin McCarra.
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CRC
hAUD OAN ,IM GON FOR A PEE.
Crushed nuts
Is it that obvious??? I’ve posted many times before but only when I feel that there is unjustified criticism of all that is Celtic or a sense of the bad old days when we were (apparently) vociferous in our views but kept them to ourselves and accepting of the status quo. Those days are gone and I am very intolerant of anyone who suggests that we should apologise for what we are. I’m not saying that we are better than anyone else. Of course we have many, many hugely talented individuals among our number, a significant number of whom regularly post here. I’m simply stating that we should never accept that we take our seat at the back of the bus and be silently, apologetically, glad in our hearts with no outward evidence that we will not accept the dominance of those who deserve nothing but our contempt.
tommytwiststommyturns on 18 May, 2012 at 20:57 said:
Four Green Fields
Oops lol
HH
Proud to say me and my Bhoy are now officially season ticket supporters for 2012-2013. It feels good – do it!
Round 1: Name each of the former Hoops, club that they played competitive football for immediately prior to signing for Celtic?
(2pts per first correct answer: 1pt per answer if you are correct but not first. Remember only 1 submission per round)
1) Arthur Boruc
Legia Warsaw
2) Jiri Jarosik – chelsi
3) Jan Vennegoor of Hesselink – psv
4) Shunshuke Nakamura – Yomato
5) Paul Lambert – B Dortmund
6) Harald Brattbakk – rosenburg
7)Pierce O Leary – arsenal
Am just catching up, so this has probably been said, but…
The implications of the hun cheating have far reaching consequences as we all know.
Is it not worth a wee list on all of the indirect detrimental effects: I can offer a wee start, but there are many here who could do better:
– The restriction on other SPL clubs to spend and invest as a result of money cheated from them.
– The overspending on signings by RFCia using money not belonging to them thus further weakening other clubs who couldn’t compete in signing fees and wages let alone EBTs- it was a financial spiral.
– The weakening of the game in Scotland as a result of this reducing entertainment value, leading to the gradual decline of the sport in Scotland, meaning smaller attendences.
– the reduced income from TV due to this weakening of the game and its competitiveness in Scotland (compare/contrast to the 80s) and consider the permanent damage done due to this.
– the effects of a league suffering from distorted competitiveness on the ability of other SPL teams to compete in Europe.
– the difficulty of other teams to sign well scouted low-cost players to a league becoming increasingly irrelevant in European football.
– the difficulty for clubs to hold on to youth players for the same reason
It could go on and on, but is worth compiling, as it seems Scottish football still seems oblivious to the crimes and their effects unless they are laid out in black and white. You would think that the SFA and SPL are considering all of the indirect effects in their reviews of this mess, but …
Also worth noting that the above does not even include the effects of anti-football by the pretenders on the game here, which have set us back 40 years (all the more infuriating when you consider how far forward Jock Stein took us and the rest of Scottish football!) nor the effects of their career threatening tackles on other SPL players with the blessing of the MIBs – I suppose that’s another aspect of Dignity’s resounding 20 year success story that will come out in due course.
tommytwiststommyturns on 18 May, 2012 at 20:53 said:
crushed nuts – 30kV?!
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Ye’re way off! A single flute playing walker can generate enough hatred to keep a town the size of East Kilbride in Christmas lights for one week, add the static and you’re talking about shutting down a Hunterston. however you then have to factor in the guffage constant (Kebabs x TV Hours x Diamond White) and you’ve got a carbon footprint bigger that the Jolly Green Giant driving a Hummer.
1) Arthur Boruc
Legia Warsaw
2) Jiri Jarosik
Chelsea
3) Jan Vennegoor of Hesselink
PSV
4) Shunshuke Nakamura
Torino
5) Paul Lambert
Dortmund
6) Harald Brattbakk
Rosenborg
7)Pierce O Leary
Shamrock Rovers
1) Arthur Boruc-Legia warsaw
2) Jiri Jarosik-Birmingham
3) Jan Vennegoor of Hesselink-psv
4) Shunshuke Nakamura-Reggina
5) Paul Lambert-Borrusia Dortmund
6) Harald Brattbakk
7)Pierce O Leary -Vancouver
CRC
On you go,that’s me back.
Legia
Birmingham
Psv
Regina
Dortmund
Rosenburg
Vanc whitecaps
Jobo – will defintootly say hello then. Nae bum notes noo!
starryhope on 18 May, 2012 at 19:04 said
I have a similar Issue with my eldest son, he’s 4 at the end of the month, called him Thomas after the great TB. Every time he sees someone with anything hun on It he always says to me “Daddy that man/ woman (It’s hard to tell with them) has a R*ngers top on, are they no Cheats, he’s a loud wee chappy, the funny thing Is though you can see there angry but they know It’s true.
1. Legia Warsaw
2. FC Copenhagen
3. PSV
4. Atalanta
5. Dortmund
6. Rosenbourg
7. Arsenal
Jobo
Ma computer fecked it up!!!!!!!!111
1. legia warsaw
2.chelski
3.PSV
4.Reggina
5.dortmund
6.rosenburg
7. vancouver team -arrghh!
1) Arthur Boruc
Legia Warsaw
2) Jiri Jarosik – chelsea
3) Jan Vennegoor of Hesselink – psv
4) Shunshuke Nakamura – Torino
5) Paul Lambert – B Dortmund
6) Harald Brattbakk – rosenburg
7)Pierce O Leary – arsenal
T4
Round 1: Name each of the former Hoops, club that they played competitive football for immediately prior to signing for Celtic?
(2pts per first correct answer: 1pt per answer if you are correct but not first. Remember only 1 submission per round)
1) Arthur Boruc
Legia Warsawa
2) Jiri Jarosik
CSKA Moscow
3) Jan Vennegoor of Hesselink
Feyenoord
4) Shunshuke Nakamura
Fiorentina
5) Paul Lambert
Borussia Dortmuind
6) Harald Brattbakk
Rosenborg
7)Pierce O Leary
Vancouver Whitecaps
no apologists on 18 May, 2012 at 21:02 said:
Crushed nuts
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You’re protesting too much! ;))))
1) Arthur Boruc Legia Warsaw
2) Jiri Jarosik Chelsea
3) Jan Vennegoor of Hesselink PSV
4) Shunshuke Nakamura Bologna
5) Paul Lambert Dortmund
6) Harald Brattbakk Rosenborg
7)Pierce O Leary Vancouver Whitecaps
1. Legia Warsaw
2.
3. PSV
4.
5. Dortmund
6. Rosenbourg
7. Arse
1 L Warsaw
2 Chelsea
3 PSV
4 Reggina
5 B doortmond
6 Rosenberg
7 Vancover Whitecaps
T4-a guest appearance. You must be confident
midfield maestro- remember no favours just cos we’re neighbours!
HH
CRC
crushed nuts – I stand corrected and you may have discovered a new form of renewable energy. Pity about the effluent….!
T4
Posting on the phone tonight, so too slow…
Ian Curtis R.I.P.
Love will Tear Us Apart
Starryhope
1Legia Warsaw
2 Birmingham
3. PSV
4. Peruggia ??
5. Dortmund
6. Rosenborg
7. Arsenal
1) Arthur Boruc
Legia
2) Jiri Jarosik
Chelsea
3) Jan Vennegoor of Hesselink
PSV
4) Shunshuke Nakamura
Lecce?
5) Paul Lambert
B Dortmund
6) Harald Brattbakk
FC Copenhagen?
7)Pierce O Leary
Aresenal
CRC – Have i got time for a smoke?
CRC – going for an end of season booby prize!
T4
CRC
Unlike Andy Kerr, RST, who expected favours from SFA appeal, None expected. Hx2
3 mins
Crushed nuts
Brought up in Springburn. We didn’t have too much time for “protesters” on the Springpark Emerald bus.
midfield maestro on 18 May, 2012 at 21:12 said:
If your quick, you can pop round for the answers before Art of War gets back :-)
HH
CRC
huns fc- love the queen but wont pay her on 18 May, 2012 at 21:06 said:
starryhope on 18 May, 2012 at 19:04 said
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my 3 year old nephew embarrassed his dad on the steps of barmoss nursury in the port by boldy declaring
dad
dad
the big hoose must stay open
thats the bottom line
cos we are the people
Rotweiller next door didn’t recognise me and charged me!
quickestsmokecsc
Answers to round 1
Legia Warsaw
Birmingham (on loan)
PSV
Reggina
Borussia Dortmund
Rosenberg
Vancouver Whitecaps
whitecaps – doh!