The SPL deadline for clubs to provide information on improper registration of players was six weeks ago today but the league has yet to report findings to clubs, while the chief executive rallies support to allow a Newco access to the league.
Time has expired on this policy of non-disclosure until it’s too late.
If the SPL chief executive ever tells us that Rangers fielded improperly registered players between 2000 and 2012, resulting in years of 3-0 defeats being awarded, there will be an enormous amount of anger, not only among supporters, but in boardrooms across the country, as they ponder money which was rightfully theirs but which went to Rangers – perhaps including Rangers prize money for finishing second this season.
We have made an attempt to quantify this money. Some of the losses were easier to calculate than others. For example, it was easy to calculate that when Rangers won the title in 2009 with improperly registered players, earning automatic qualification to the Champions League group stage, they denied Celtic £15m European earnings, plus £340k SPL prize money. Other losses are less clear, specifically when a club was denied a place in a qualifying round for the Champions League or Uefa Cup, which they may or may not have progressed from.
We have established three figures for each club in the SPL during the season just finished, to cover the period from 2000 to 2012:
Minimum loss:
The absolute minimum each club was denied from European and SPL prize money as a result of Rangers finishing above them with ineligible players.
Weighted loss:
The figure based on Scottish clubs gaining entry to Champions League/Europa League (Uefa Cup) group stages from 20% of their qualifying campaigns (which is slightly less than trend).
Maximum loss:
The maximum a club could have achieved if it qualified for the European group stage it was denied entry to.
Out estimates take no account of the subsequent effect money has on future years. For example, If Celtic earned an additional £15m from entering the Champions League group stage in 2009-10 their league challenge for that season would have been £15m stronger, and Rangers £15m weaker, potentially resulting in consequences in future years.
This multiplier effect would have benefited Celtic but it would be likely to have a greater effect on other clubs, some of whom would be denied the enormous percentage increase in budget automatic qualification to European group stages would have brought.
Hearts finished immediately behind Celtic and Rangers more often than any other club over the period and suffer the greatest potential losses, even more so than Celtic. Hibernian, Aberdeen, Dundee United and Motherwell also suffered significant losses.
Several clubs got nowhere near European football over the period, and some of the 11 spent only a few years in the SPL but each club lost over £1m.
Figures for each club are:
Hearts
Maximum: £72.3m
Weighted: £16.3m
Minimum: £6.2m
Celtic
Maximum: £46.7m
Weighted: £21.9m
Minimum: £17.4m
Hibernian
Maximum: £34.8m
Weighted: £8.4m
Minimum: £3.6m
Aberdeen
Maximum: £21.1m
Weighted: £5.5m
Minimum: £2.7m
Dundee United
Maximum: £20.8m
Weighted: £5.2m
Minimum: £2.4m
Motherwell
Maximum: £16.7m
Weighted: £4.4m
Minimum: £2.1m
Kilmarnock
Maximum: £5.1m
Weighted: £1.9m
Minimum: £1.3m
Dunfermline
Maximum: £3.4m
Weighted: £1.8m
Minimum: £1.5m
Inverness
Maximum: £1.3m
Weighted: £1.3m
Minimum: £1.3m
St Johnstone
Maximum: £1.1m
Weighted: £1.1m
Minimum: £1.1m
St Mirren
Maximum: £1.1m
Weighted: £1.1m
Minimum: £1.1m
In the event Rangers fielded ineligible players during the period under consideration, which everyone apart from Neil Doncaster knows, and even he will be unable to deny next week, we know the following:
Rangers received a minimum of £40.9m which should have gone to the 11 other clubs, assuming each club lost all their European group stage qualifying campaigns. This calculation does not include earnings from clubs now in the Scottish Football League, such as Hamilton Accies or Dundee.
If Scottish clubs progressed to the group stages of European competition on only 20% of their qualifying campaigns the loss would be £69.0m.
The figure for total potential losses if clubs successfully progressed to every European group stage is, as the figure for 100% failure, more illustrative than likely, but the maximum cost to the 11 SPL clubs is £224.6m.
Results will be changed, trophies can and will, be re-awarded, but these are the harsh financial consequences clubs, their lawyers and supporters, will consider when the facts are presented to them next week. The SPL executive has had six weeks to consider if there is sufficient evidence to commence disciplinary proceedings; they have failed to do so. They have failed you and every other football supporter in the land, while shamelessly pursuing an accommodation for the errant club BEFORE REVEALING THE FACTS TO YOU.
Time will be up soon, Mr Doncaster. You’ve had your chance but you have convinced no one. The people who really matter in this entire debacle are those who buy tickets for Celtic Park, Pittodrie, Easter Road, Tynecastle, Tannadice, Fir Park and the rest, they will hear the truth and read these figures. You have failed them.
You can read our calculations here. European income figures were sources from Uefa data.
Celtic’s disadvantage deepened when their winger John Doyle was sent off ten minutes into the second half for kicking the scorer, but there was an equaliser from Aitken, who was especially suited to a night of such fervour and force. Never bashful, Aitken was stimulated by the challenge of being in an outnumbered line-up.
From Celtic: A Biography in Nine Lives, by Kevin McCarra.
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Starry Plough @19:35
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The pleasure was all mine m8! :)))
Btw, I wonder how many CQNer’s are at a certain ‘do’ in G72 tonight ?
Hail Hail
Tommy conned them again
Monaghan1900
Strathclyde Police have been given specific instructions; ‘Whatever happens do not let Sandy Jardine anywhere near it!’
Tommy, ahem…..
on snyde under another guise!
Hilarious!
Tommy tumbled !!
Whats the latest with the hun-march on hampden the morra ?
If it goes ahead….a widny like to be a Hibby sandwiched in between those two sets of huns.
Hail Hail
Richie on 18 May, 2012 at 19:43 said:
Tommy tumbled !!
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JD on SSB
now has Tommy sussed, me thinks.
Hail Hail
Lawrie on SSB.
Hugh Keevins personal mascot! imo!
Hail Hail
Oh No, it’s Lawrie fae Dennistoun….groan.
If you’ve ever met GL2, he sounds just like a younger version of ole Lawrie!!
T4
HK
AMADAN!
ARMAGH!
Green Lantern (((((0))))) on 18 May, 2012 at 19:22 said:
Craig Whyte – The Man Who Shot Liberty Takers.
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Pure unadulterated class sir…
Off oot.
Adios CQNer’s
Night, Night Timdom.
God Bless
Hail Hail
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I’ve not listened to SSB for some years but recall that idiot Laurie calling in with nonsense regularly. He was often calling in on the same nights as the stupid hun John Kennedy. Fae Coocaddens mibbee?
Keevins –Tube.
Posted the article to a friend who is a Pars fan. He is a local businessman and drinks and dines on matchdays with directors.
He tells me this has been discussed and it is reckoned that if Pars had withheld the £1 million PAYE/VAT of past season they could have finished mid-table.
I know they would say that but the fact they have been discussing the very scenario that Paul highlighted is interesting . IMHO
The Green man has revealed the names of two members of his group, Indonesian investor Jude Allen and Mazen Houssami, a lawyer from the Middle East.
Sorry, but I can’t help myself… demob happy cos it’s Friday!
Hey Jude, and Housaaami
Take a bad club to make it better
Remember to start in league number 3
Then you can start to make it better…
Na na na, na-na na na
Na-na na na, hey Jude
Hey Jude, and the bold Charlie
Take a sad club and make it better
Remember to pay HMRC
Then you can start to make it better…
Na na na, na-na na na
Na-na na na, hey Jude
Any others (shouldnae be hard)?
;o)
EDB – same guys still phoning in….same mugs still listening! :-)
Usually, it’s while I’m doing the dishes or trying to avoid watching the soaps with the boss. What’s your excuse tonight?!
T4
Very informative article today Paul67 , as has already been proved by the varied reaction to your figures and indeed the way you presented them , people will take what they want from your article and interpret it in their own way.
What cannot be disputed is the fact that all teams including our own , have been cheated by RIA over many years , which begs the question – why can’t the SPL charge RIA over the dual contract issue with the information they have at present and then continue to process the rest of the info and present it when the case comes before the chosen panel .
My opinion is that the SPL are waiting until RIA are liquidated and then they will claim that they can’t prosecute the old club as they don’t exist anymore.
Could be wrong but Mr. Doncaster does not come across as a very reliable person to trust with doing the right thing .
Yours in Celtic
Those in Dubai, where I am tonight, although my current residence these days is normally Doha in the State of Qatar, really like the celtic song. I felt the need to share it with them having received the ultimate accolade of being told told to beat it on the premise of being a Hun on CQN earlier.
As a point of mild interest, the bar I’m in is a Chelsea themed place, Dubai is a strange town, but there’s been quite a few jerries and others coming in and asking if the CL final is goin to be shown on the telly but no one has asked about his vs hearts at all.
It was the barmaid, another Celtic fan from Keralla in India who is very fond of my Celtic zippo lighter that mentioned that :) I’m teaching her the song in detail, and forwarding her the link to the site, now.
We’re everywhere, soon THEY will be no more, and the world will a much better place for it. ‘That part of my club that relies on them is a part that I am willing to do without’ is something that I saw first on here, and is a fact that I will never argue with.
You won’t hear that from many of us that get past the filters on SSB.
Now off for the best massage in all Dubai. Allegedly. Hoping for a happy ending too.
Hail Hail,
KevinBhoy.
Charles Green’s pitch to SFA/SPL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTVN_RSaPEM
does anyone know Laurie from denniston in real life.
he gives keevins the why you so good treatment tonight. what a lot of pash .
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that was funny.
Paul67
Big thanks to you for this article (and the rest of course).
I’ve been looking forward to this one in particular. An idea of the financial implication to the rest of the SPL clubs and those who have flirted with relegation/promotion in the SFL has been long long overdue, and something supporters of these clubs don’t seem to have considered. Also of course, the clubs in the rest of Europe who suffered from this cheating.
But more than all for me, what still upsets me, is how they denied Tommy Burns at least one league title with this (now proven) and other forms of cheating (QED).
A well timed article imo.
kevinbhoy , heading out to Abu Dhabi tomorrow for a month to visit the brother and have a look around at any opportunities. I hear doha is a little more restrictive.
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I’m not listening in me old amigo. As I said earlier I’ve not listened to SSB etc for years but cos I love CQN and tend to tune in regularly I’m sadly being kept up to speed with what is being said on SSB.
It’s no big deal and I’ve learned to scroll past many posts during the times these call ins are on air.
Picked up older daughter this p.m. at GLA on return from her break in Sorrento and debriefing her now:o) Don’t think I’ll be forking out for a holiday in Capri anytime soon!
Take care.
Nuclear Bovril and a Half Munched Pie on 18 May, 2012 at 19:39 said:
I hear you bud.
I once kept a wee ear open to these shows, know your enemy etc.
I also had a wee fly swatch at the record in the howf in work to keep an eye on the written words of our enemy.
But.
I realized that all I was doing was damaging my health.
These shows and papers have an anti Celtic pro thems agenda, it is clear and obvious.
This will never change.
So I don’t need to monitor them.
Plus, if there are any real belters of stories or comments on Snyde or in the record then they are usually posted on here. So we can be aware without adding to reader/listening figures.
HH
Charlie reveals not only but also, two names and the fact that if the CVA is rejected he’s GTF. What is the point? Today the newspapers reported that the BCCI admin was now concluded, 20 years later!! Keith Vaz has challenged the administrators to explain why it’s taken so long and why they got involved in costly litigation.
worth a read
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2012/may/17/bcci-scandal-long-legal-wranglings?INTCMP=SRCH
Evening Bhoys & Ghirls
The last Friday nite footie quiz of the season starts at 9pm
Catch you then!!!
HH
CRC
On the 15th of November 1972 Scotland played Denmark in a world cup qualifier
I watched the highlights with my Dad, he collapsed and died at work the following day God rest him
My point is the very last conversation with him he says to me “Take my word for it the SFA dont give a damn about Scottish Football”
40 years on has anything changed?
is there a quiz tonight
crc
is it still the badge wearer rules
double points
nae penalties.
Saint Stivs on 18 May, 2012 at 20:18 said:
is there a quiz tonight
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Yes! Have I won?
EDB – give it a couple of years and she’ll be taking you and yer missus to Capri !
T4
Saint Stivs on 18 May, 2012 at 20:20 said:
Newquizco rules.
Double points for all those that have ordered 2 new badges @ cqnbadges@gmail.com :-)
HH
CRC
CRC
I’m in,2 points for me tonight.
CRC
Is my badge order ok or do I have to re-order through the email link.
Hail Hail
Kevinbhoy – great post. Just catching up – have the wee mans First Communion trow so have been running about all day.
VP – ma da taught me all the swear words I know – he’s good that way!
Have a great weekend all.
Kelvinbhoy(with an L)
The MSM/Laptop Loyal’s new anthem
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2c6qblEwnQ
FourGreenFields on 18 May, 2012 at 20:29 said:
Send a wee email if you don’t mind, so we don’t forget. My helper is not very clever :-)
HH
CRC