Last year we attempted to quantify the money other SPL clubs were denied by Rangers improperly registering football players – on the assumption that being found guilty of improperly registering football players was actually worthy of punishment.
Below is an excerpt of the article and figures:
Some of the losses were easier to calculate than others. For example, it was easy to calculate that when Rangers won the title in 2009 with improperly registered players, earning automatic qualification to the Champions League group stage, they denied Celtic £15m European earnings, plus £340k SPL prize money. Other losses are less clear, specifically when a club was denied a place in a qualifying round for the Champions League or Uefa Cup, which they may or may not have progressed from.
We have established three figures for each club in the SPL during the season just finished, to cover the period from 2000 to 2012:
Minimum loss:
The absolute minimum each club was denied from European and SPL prize money as a result of Rangers finishing above them with ineligible players.
Weighted loss:
The figure based on Scottish clubs gaining entry to Champions League/Europa League (Uefa Cup) group stages from 20% of their qualifying campaigns (which is slightly less than trend).
Maximum loss:
The maximum a club could have achieved if it qualified for the European group stage it was denied entry to.
Out estimates take no account of the subsequent effect money has on future years. For example, If Celtic earned an additional £15m from entering the Champions League group stage in 2009-10 their league challenge for that season would have been £15m stronger, and Rangers £15m weaker, potentially resulting in consequences in future years.
This multiplier effect would have benefited Celtic but it would be likely to have a greater effect on other clubs, some of whom would be denied the enormous percentage increase in budget automatic qualification to European group stages would have brought.
Hearts finished immediately behind Celtic and Rangers more often than any other club over the period and suffer the greatest potential losses, even more so than Celtic. Hibernian, Aberdeen, Dundee United and Motherwell also suffered significant losses.
Several clubs got nowhere near European football over the period, and some of the 11 spent only a few years in the SPL but each club lost over £1m.
Figures for each club are:
Hearts
Maximum: £72.3m
Weighted: £16.3m
Minimum: £6.2m
Celtic
Maximum: £46.7m
Weighted: £21.9m
Minimum: £17.4m
Hibernian
Maximum: £34.8m
Weighted: £8.4m
Minimum: £3.6m
Aberdeen
Maximum: £21.1m
Weighted: £5.5m
Minimum: £2.7m
Dundee United
Maximum: £20.8m
Weighted: £5.2m
Minimum: £2.4m
Motherwell
Maximum: £16.7m
Weighted: £4.4m
Minimum: £2.1m
Kilmarnock
Maximum: £5.1m
Weighted: £1.9m
Minimum: £1.3m
Dunfermline
Maximum: £3.4m
Weighted: £1.8m
Minimum: £1.5m
Inverness
Maximum: £1.3m
Weighted: £1.3m
Minimum: £1.3m
St Johnstone
Maximum: £1.1m
Weighted: £1.1m
Minimum: £1.1m
St Mirren
Maximum: £1.1m
Weighted: £1.1m
Minimum: £1.1m
In the event Rangers fielded ineligible players during the period under consideration, which everyone apart from Neil Doncaster knows, and even he will be unable to deny next week, we know the following:
Rangers received a minimum of £40.9m which should have gone to the 11 other clubs, assuming each club lost all their European group stage qualifying campaigns. This calculation does not include earnings from clubs now in the Scottish Football League, such as Hamilton Accies or [then]Dundee.
If Scottish clubs progressed to the group stages of European competition on only 20% of their qualifying campaigns the loss would be £69.0m.
The figure for total potential losses if clubs successfully progressed to every European group stage is, as the figure for 100% failure, more illustrative than likely, but the maximum cost to the 11 SPL clubs is £224.6m.
You can read our calculations here. European income figures were sources from Uefa data.
The people who really matter in this entire debacle are those who buy tickets for Celtic Park, Pittodrie, Easter Road, Tynecastle, Tannadice, Fir Park and elsewhere. It is patently clear that the game in Scotland is failing fans and clubs alike. It is time for fans of SPL clubs to unite and move beyond the busted grip of the SFA.
Only SPL fans, working together, can ensure each of clubs has a viable future.
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God bless NEIL LENNON…..a man of character and integrity…!!!!!!!!
be so easy for neil to keep quiet…im sure his family would urge him to keep quiet…but no,neil lennon speaks his mind because he is a man who will not let the terrorists and pond life bully him into submission like so many before him……it is the actions of a brave brave soul like neil lennon that make all our tommorow’s much safer …god bless you neil
This part of the statement…
‘We will continue to concentrate on our own affairs, and assure our supporters that at all times we will operate within both the rules of our governing bodies and the law of the land.’
means what?
Why should we operate within the rules of the game when others don’t and when they don’t they are exempt from due process? I don’t want to be assured of that!
My only concern is that Lennie tells it as he feels it and I worry that he will not be safe from the extremists in the huns support.One thing for sure he has bottle.H.H.
Also quite incredible that it’ll be Celtic that our vilified for telling the truth whilst Sevco’s litany of provocative statement’s are read out in awe and admiration
The club statement is rather dry but until the SPL board meets nothing more can be done by the club because as Neil said this was nothing to do with Celtic directly.
It wasn’t an us vs them issue. It was cheats vs everyone else and the cheats won.
If the SPL board flatly accept this then I for one will be extremely disappointed.
There is some way to run over this if the SPL decide this was a perversion of justice.
It might be another waiting game.
*are vilified
Joe Filippis Haircut
Why would Neil be targeted, the Huns think they have Won?
I am one of the slightly older guys on here…but you know what? I hate them more now than at any time in my life…
Monteblanco – I never want us to stoop to their level.
weebobbycollins
Seconded.
Petec
Well said ……when are the bhuns going to realise that they lead their sham of a club to liquidation when their protest outside the bigotdome forced murray to spend £18m he didn’t have……then the Bank panicked, and called in their £18m loan (there’s that word ‘loan’ again….the loan ranger …how appropriate…. Hahahaha)
Take a bow, internet bampots, for also contributing greatly to the demise of der hun…… FANTASTIC…….
Maybe your visit in front of the building where the IFAB conference in
Edinburgh will take place tomorrow makes sense ?
weebobbycollins
19:03 on 1 March, 2013
I can empathisevwith that. …. Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
NegAnon2 @18:43 in our heads it’s we expected but it’s still disappointing when it comes.
petec. Because McCoist and Green are publicly saying they want apoligises which we know is stupid however,not all huns fans will agree they will be looking for there apology.Now Lennie wasnt in the mood for giving apoligies and they wont like that as they are the people.H.H.
Supporters of right wing bigot fc are going absolutely mental on nazi media over both the NFL interview and the Celtic statement.
Well done Celtic in stirring them up, someone had to put their record straight.
Hopefully other clubs will also release statements getting in about them for their years of cheating.
The Celtic statement is a fair start. A reasonable start. But, thus far, it is just a start.
I understand that they will be light on elaboration over the next few days but please do not believe that one statement expressing surprise and mild disappointment is going to be sufficient for any purpose.
I will be patient and await developments.
monteblanco
Yesterday I shared your sentiments mate. Neil and Celtic statements have cooled my emotions. Outside of Scotland anyone with a brain will know the truth. Celtic must operate within the rules of the game and the law of the land because if we did not we would not be exempt from due process.
All you get from huns is their history, integrity, and dignity. The internet has all but destroyed all three.
Neil Lennon has been deprived of one of life’s simple pleasures.
Walking down the street in Glasgow.
Are we going to restore it?
neganon2
18:51 on
1 March, 2013
Just saw NL interview – brilliant – thats more like it. Celtic must get behind him and if they do then we get behind Celtic.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Absolutely spot on…indeed, Celtic’s official statement mirrored Neil’s response to the intentonally provocative questions…..
snake plissken
19:00 on
1 March, 2013
It wasn’t an us vs them issue. It was cheats vs everyone else and the cheats won.
If the SPL board flatly accept this then I for one will be extremely disappointed.
There is some way to run over this if the SPL decide this was a perversion of justice.
It might be another waiting game.
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the spl board knew the result of the LNS report 24hr +
who guided him on the punishment required for £46 million pounds of undisclosed payment ?
and that a £250000 fine to oldco would suffice ?
was it all the members of the spl board or did neil doncaster take it upon himself yet again
THE STENCH FROM HAMPDUMP WILL LINGER FOR MANY MORE YEARS TO COME
jam67
Something is happening. Official statements, emails from club, and an outspoken press conference from Neil.
In my time supporting Celtic, I’ve pulled my hair out as manager after manager bit his tongue when I, naively or otherwise, wanted him to act as a spokesman for our community. On a scale of 1 (pathetic) to 10 (steady, or you’ll get the jail!):
1. Tony M. taking it on the chin
2. John Barnes sharing his thoughts on the game. 4-2-2-2 worked for France and Brazil, you know.
3. Poor Dr Jo had no chance with them, not even speaking the language.
4. WGS taking the proverbial out of the dullards – style over substance?
5. Tommy B. (God Bless You) – “I believe in miracles”, as R*ng£r$ bought trophies.
6. King Kenny making MSM gather in Bairds, because they didn’t deserve to get into Paradise.
7. MON at his most ferocious – tremendous.
8. NFL – honest mistakes after DougieDougiegate.
9. NFL saying that he was cheated out of trophies as a player by Minty’s cheating
10. Neil goes Scarface today.
Petec. I should have added I also think they have won. They stole millions from the tax payer and they used the money to fund better players which helped to win them trophies as other clubs couldnt match there financial clout at the time.Now they have been reborn with no debt bet you or I couldnt get away with pulling the same stunt, H.H.
Well done ACGR for spotting the jungle floodlight.
Does this mean you’ve regained your sense of smell?
It’s good to know he’s still fighting.
Fighting the Fuzz
Complete agreement. More to come from the impeccable Celtic!.
For anyone wavering
I give you NFL
He will lead us, but he needs us to stand with him.
As my auld ma used to say ” there is more than wan way tae choke a horse”
The higher they buid there barriers, the taller I become.
Till later Meeting time
HAIL HAIL
Joe Filippis Haircut
If Sevco are still around at Christmas I’ll buy you a present!!
BFM…
SPL FANS UTD@splfansunited
Looking for one supporter from each SPL club to contribute blogs and ideas to the site when it opens. Can you RT
I honestly wouldn’t worry about people like Raman. There is zero credibility there and even fewer viewers.
Neil was great… Clearly angry but calm and correct to highlight the guilty verdict. Cynics statement was correct to highlight the discrepancy between the guilty verdict and the “no sporting advantage” conclusion.
It’s up to the SPL clubs now. If they want to accept this then celtics options are probably limited. However, at the very least Ogilvie and Bryson should be sacked immediately.
Pretend journalists like Raman are however more concerned with how angry Neil is than the damning verdict in the report on Ogilvie.
Said it before I’ll say it again, we live in Bigotland not Scotland.
Sorry “celtics statement” pesky iPhone…
For those who dont go and watch Celtic anyway and are getting all uppity about the statement.
“We will continue to concentrate on our own affairs & at all times will operate within the rules and the law of the land.”
I would say that gives Chuckles and Fat Sally a slap in the coupon.
I hated them when I was 19 – at the 1973 cup final when that carthorse Tom Forsyth scored the winning goal and was almost dispossessed by the post – but I hate them even more now 40 years later.
..and I’m not a bitter person!
I am when they – and the masonic cabal who govern football in Scotland – are concerned ‘tho.
The CFC statement – not impressed I’m afraid!
HH!!
starry plough. I would love to think you are right and not because I want the prezzie.However,as we have already seen there are to many people in the establishment who will not let them die so I think you will be disappointed my friend.H.H.
ItaliaBhoy @19:16 “I honestly wouldn’t worry about people like Raman. There is zero credibility there and even fewer viewers. ”
Totally agree.
As has been shown on here, punters, when something jars with them, now have at their fingertips the means to expose these self proclaimed journalists.
Have to admit I thought Neil was brilliant in his press conference today. Played a blinder.
Also i think the Club’s statement was a good one. Highlighted what needed to be highlighted and threw in a wee jab or 2 also.
That will do for starters, as like some others I have no doubt there is more to come from this.
Lets see if any of the other SPL clubs step up now too.
HAIL! HAIL!
Token
Joe Filippis Haircut
Unless their friends start putting their hands in their pockets I can’t see them getting far, broken financial model, that’s just my feeling..
A box of biscuits on it!!
Hail Hail..