Last year we attempted to quantify the money other SPL clubs were denied by Rangers improperly registering football players – on the assumption that being found guilty of improperly registering football players was actually worthy of punishment.
Below is an excerpt of the article and figures:
Some of the losses were easier to calculate than others. For example, it was easy to calculate that when Rangers won the title in 2009 with improperly registered players, earning automatic qualification to the Champions League group stage, they denied Celtic £15m European earnings, plus £340k SPL prize money. Other losses are less clear, specifically when a club was denied a place in a qualifying round for the Champions League or Uefa Cup, which they may or may not have progressed from.
We have established three figures for each club in the SPL during the season just finished, to cover the period from 2000 to 2012:
Minimum loss:
The absolute minimum each club was denied from European and SPL prize money as a result of Rangers finishing above them with ineligible players.
Weighted loss:
The figure based on Scottish clubs gaining entry to Champions League/Europa League (Uefa Cup) group stages from 20% of their qualifying campaigns (which is slightly less than trend).
Maximum loss:
The maximum a club could have achieved if it qualified for the European group stage it was denied entry to.
Out estimates take no account of the subsequent effect money has on future years. For example, If Celtic earned an additional £15m from entering the Champions League group stage in 2009-10 their league challenge for that season would have been £15m stronger, and Rangers £15m weaker, potentially resulting in consequences in future years.
This multiplier effect would have benefited Celtic but it would be likely to have a greater effect on other clubs, some of whom would be denied the enormous percentage increase in budget automatic qualification to European group stages would have brought.
Hearts finished immediately behind Celtic and Rangers more often than any other club over the period and suffer the greatest potential losses, even more so than Celtic. Hibernian, Aberdeen, Dundee United and Motherwell also suffered significant losses.
Several clubs got nowhere near European football over the period, and some of the 11 spent only a few years in the SPL but each club lost over £1m.
Figures for each club are:
Hearts
Maximum: £72.3m
Weighted: £16.3m
Minimum: £6.2m
Celtic
Maximum: £46.7m
Weighted: £21.9m
Minimum: £17.4m
Hibernian
Maximum: £34.8m
Weighted: £8.4m
Minimum: £3.6m
Aberdeen
Maximum: £21.1m
Weighted: £5.5m
Minimum: £2.7m
Dundee United
Maximum: £20.8m
Weighted: £5.2m
Minimum: £2.4m
Motherwell
Maximum: £16.7m
Weighted: £4.4m
Minimum: £2.1m
Kilmarnock
Maximum: £5.1m
Weighted: £1.9m
Minimum: £1.3m
Dunfermline
Maximum: £3.4m
Weighted: £1.8m
Minimum: £1.5m
Inverness
Maximum: £1.3m
Weighted: £1.3m
Minimum: £1.3m
St Johnstone
Maximum: £1.1m
Weighted: £1.1m
Minimum: £1.1m
St Mirren
Maximum: £1.1m
Weighted: £1.1m
Minimum: £1.1m
In the event Rangers fielded ineligible players during the period under consideration, which everyone apart from Neil Doncaster knows, and even he will be unable to deny next week, we know the following:
Rangers received a minimum of £40.9m which should have gone to the 11 other clubs, assuming each club lost all their European group stage qualifying campaigns. This calculation does not include earnings from clubs now in the Scottish Football League, such as Hamilton Accies or [then]Dundee.
If Scottish clubs progressed to the group stages of European competition on only 20% of their qualifying campaigns the loss would be £69.0m.
The figure for total potential losses if clubs successfully progressed to every European group stage is, as the figure for 100% failure, more illustrative than likely, but the maximum cost to the 11 SPL clubs is £224.6m.
You can read our calculations here. European income figures were sources from Uefa data.
The people who really matter in this entire debacle are those who buy tickets for Celtic Park, Pittodrie, Easter Road, Tynecastle, Tannadice, Fir Park and elsewhere. It is patently clear that the game in Scotland is failing fans and clubs alike. It is time for fans of SPL clubs to unite and move beyond the busted grip of the SFA.
Only SPL fans, working together, can ensure each of clubs has a viable future.
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Let the zombies have their wee gloat.
They still died and they are still running at a loss in lower division football.
They are a train wreck waiting to happen!
Green on SSN blatantly lying …
Think Sally needs someone to explain the content of LNS s findings if he thinks that they have been vindicated
Is he that thick …..possibly.. or just lying like Green
seeing as though ‘rangers’ are cock a hoop at keeping ‘their’ trophies/history…i assume they will be paying ‘their’ fine?……..or is it only the same club when it suits them…..shocking stuff and they have the cheek to try and take the moral high ground…..dignity my arse
pfayr
You’re probably right, but I think they felt they had to issue a statement to keep the support off their back for a while. Prepare for the real thing later! (I think).
what does the unicorn in fathers room mean ? from etims diary i mean.
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Meanwhile, in a quiet suburban street somewhere in Englands home counties, a man called Hector put down his cup of tea, straightened his tie, and set off for work, whistling a tune about a unicorn in his fathers room….
The club’s statement says they gained advantage,and has put the ball back in their court. Like the STV tossers trying it on with NL, the rest want to see Celtic jump at this particular bone. The reponses from both NL and the Board are sufficient for now. I’ve reached my age by purposely counting to ten and holding my ammunition. There is more to go on this story.
Jonny the Tim
Th Huns seem to be going bonkers about it …..did some good then :-))))
Good evening friends and happy quarter final eve!
Just watched Neil’s press conference there via the official site. What a line – “We are playing Juventus in the last 16 of the Champions League. We’re not renting out a training ground to them.”
And all with a straight face. Brilliant!
Oh, and ban STV from Celtic Park and watch them squirm and squeal.
Celtic should restrict all media contact to the bare minimum required under any deals in place.
The Club should then make it known to all sections of the media that the Clubs lawyers will be scrutinising all related news / interviews etc and if thought needed , legal action will be taken.
The gloves are off now Bhoys , lets start the fight for truth and justice .
HH
Don’t the media just hate NFL ! Stv n ssb accusing him of behaviour not conducive to being a Celtic manager ! Incredible ! Comment about Juve priceless but Chuckles can shout his mouth off about everyone without criticism !! Typical anti Celtic propaganda in full motion now !
Sorry if already posted but Celtic just rceived an email from Celtic containing Neil’s press conference. Celtic trying to ensure the true content is being ciruclated.
Saint stivs
Didn’t read it …thought it was a take on TBOTOB
Well said Neil and our board it will do for now. Celtic then Celtic now Celtic forever
Toffeetim
Ignore irrelevancies such as STV and SSB…..
I hope CFC ban them …
it’s quite incredible that for months Chuckles and ally have made all manner of bat sh!t crazy statements and are held up as paragons of virtue whereas neil states the facts of the matter in a calm, measured way and is vilified.
twas ever thus I guess
PF
I don’t expect anything to change in my lifetime, and I was born and live in Scotland an unjust world in terms of Religion, and Football discrimination.
Celtic the club and support, are the manifestation of the confrontation against the corrupt, it’s a fight, I’ll continue and pass on to others.
The fraud happened when they got into Division 3.
fjiw
Got it as well mate , some great lines from Neil in there .
HH
11 years of ILLEGITIMATE players.
Is that all?
I thought there were many more years of illegitimate players down Govan way…
Oh well, thanks to a good Catholic school education, here’s what I consider £50 million smaker could buy you in the NAUGHTIES:
Tainted Titles
2000
2003
2005
2009
2010
2011
Corrupt Scottish Cups
2000
2002
2003
2008
2009
Defiled League Cups
2002
2003
2005
2008
2010
2011
mccoist, sleekit one.
“there seems to be some bitterness in scottish football”
aye, youse
I have read Celtic’s statement. I wanted it be be strong, clear and direct and for Celtic to take a leading role in the fight against this corruption.
At least they have made a statement, forced as they were by the support, at least they look like they dont agree. But overall its a cowardly response. They are trying to do just enough to retain us as a support. Why should we support a corrupt game?
Celtic offer nothing in the face of this corruption – nothing except to plead with us to keep giving them our money.
A sad sad day this.
Jobo
Right – who wrote NFL’s dig?
lazydynamite 18:35 on 1 March, 2013
seeing as though ‘rangers’ are cock a hoop at keeping ‘their’ trophies/history…i assume they will be paying ‘their’ fine?……..
I assume they will be appealing – they have been telling us all along that they have done nothing wrong. It was all in the accounts you know……
and all the while over the river in the southside
THE STENCH FROM HAMPDUMP WILL LINGER FOR MANY MORE YEARS TO COME
jam67
to sevco and their ilk
the bankers, politicians, charlatans, con men, chizlers, the morally bankrupt, law lords, the establishment ,salmond, macaskill, cameron, aristocracy, my boss, raman bawbag, the barsteward who tried to run me down the other day while i was on my bike SSN craig burley ESPN STV…………….and etc etc etc!
phew! rant over.
ps
its never over!
GIRFUY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvlTJrNJ5lA
fourgreenfields
That sounds like great idea, but, was that not what Jabba threatened from his ivory tower @ Ipox recently?
The last thing I want Celtic to do, is what they do!
Just dropped back in to say….
NegAnon2
18:43 on 1 March, 2013
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Agree 100% M8
My thoughts exactly only
I couldny say it as well as you
Thanks M8
God Bless
Off oot
I wish to apologise to all CQN’rs after my outburst yesterday. I was totally scunnered and really was thinking about giving it all up.
Lenny’s press conference + the Celtic statement have restored my faith. It also then dawned on me once again that RFC 1872 are dead and will never return. A year from now i fully expect us to be laughing our heads off as SevCo enter administration.
In the meantime i am fully behind our club and support, as we look to remove the SFA from office in its current form.
Apologies once again.
The excellent Financial impact summary, prepared by Paul 67 at the start of the article,should find its way into every teams major Blog or Fanzine to ensure that the other teams realise that Celtic were not the only team impacted.
I am pleased Celtic have commented on the ludicrous notion that spending £49m did not buy advantage,to make such a statement then penalise an non existant entity would suggest we should have concern for Nimmo the Dimmo, as he was termed by the late Nicholas Fairbairn QC. obviously a man with an eye for talent.
Right ghuys, the great Glasgow public await their carriage, so it’s off to work I go! I’ll try and keep up with what’s happening on CQN, but hope to be too busy!
I’ll be back on the Moonhowler’s shift!
HH
Fat sleekit Ally and brass neck Charlie Green a pair of shysters looking for people to apoligise for accusing them of cheating it was only an administrative error.They come out with there smug statements after ripping off the tax payer by millions how no one has gone to jail is what should be being asked.Of course they gained an advantage by there cheating and one must welcome todays statement from Celtic.I for one am concerned that the cheating that has been found to go on in Scottish football will continue as the punishment for being caught seems to be very small indeed.H.H.
time for change
12:32 on 1 March, 2013
ten men won the league
18:47 on
1 March, 2013
I will only be going to home games from now on, and will not be attending ANY stadium where the corrupt ones are permeating their stench ……..and ‘you can take that to the bank’…!!
I’m really enjoying watching my team in a ‘sporting integrity’ environment, and want that to continue…..forever, ……which is possible, since I think Sevco are next for the chop….
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Just saw NL interview – brilliant – thats more like it. Celtic must get behind him and if they do then we get behind Celtic.
jonny the tim
Not threatening anybody , just informing them that we will defend ourselves in court if necessary .
HH
Remember , they are what they always were , Mankies then , Mankies now, Mankies forever….who the hell would want that history?
Deluded does not begin to describe them, their fear and hatred of Neil Lennon is their rallying call, that sums them up.
Very pleased with the CFC statement….very pleased……….. And NEIL simply answered the questions asked by the LL ……..without fear or favour..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
God bless NEIL LENNON…..
The Celtic statement could not highlight things more.
I think Jock commented something like this
You know where you are and you what the situation is, get the ball in the net as often as possible.
Sicken them so much they don’t want to come out for the 2nd half.
It is time to Grow Further as a Club. Thanks deid Club and Scottish Administrative whatever.