You want some good news? Around £1m of Tottenham’s money for Victor Wanyama will find its way to Celtic, which will offset some of the economic impact of this morning’s news. This aside, there is only bad news. If we want to buy footballers priced in euros (or anything other than GPB) they will cost more money. We will also have to pay higher wages to be competitive with European clubs.
Goods will cost more – it will start today with fuel and travel, then food, electrical goods and everything else. Wages will buy less (not just less-able footballers). Borrowing repayments will be higher. Business expenditure, wages and employment will drop, so will the tax take – and money available for welfare spend. The poor always pay the highest penalty.
If you are rich enough and without a mortgage you can indulge in flag waving all day, happy in a delusion that self-determination even remotely exists in modern economies. Or that more self-determination over here, and a little less over there, is a panacea. It’s not, it’s just another economic crisis coming your way soon.
The entire political class have failed us. Calling a flag waving referendum was a grubby attempt to hold onto power by the prime minister; this mess is his making. Whoever succeeds him will have to successfully pander to the same party membership in order to get elected.
Jeremy Corbyn’s mealie-mouthed campaigning was an embarrassment. His “7 out of 10” backing for remain did what it was supposed to do: convince people he was going through the motions for something he didn’t believe in.
Who’s ever heard of a leader winning support for an issue he is prepared to back 7 out of 10 himself? He should go, but political ego will ensure he’ll hang around to make sure Johnson wins the next general election.
It took six days for the Greek government to abandon their own disastrous EU referendum mandate. Instead of attempting a rescue, all our political ‘leaders’ will give us is more populist power grabs. It’s already underway.
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GFTB @ 7.57
Corbyn in number 10, McGeady, McLean and Duffy at Celtic Park? Now , I thought it was me who was the dreamer? Enjoy thinking about it though.
Leftclicktick
You put your mum through the football today, goodness knows what she will be shouting at you about watching Glastonbury :-)
England won’t vote for out and out socialists. Murray was only elected in Scotland in a constituency who wanted anyone but SNP. Any Labour MP who resigns now, Blairite or Corbynista, will likely lose their seat. There are not enough true believers anymore to consider anywhere a safe seat.
I realise that the media will do their utmost to destroy any Labour politician (much like the SMSM try their utmost to do down Celtic up here). So, imo, image is vital, even if wholy superficial. Labour, however honourably they have tried to project a properly serious platform come across as totally out of touch with ordinary working class people and their concerns. (And I don’t mean in the first place the Blairites, if I give that impression.)
Gregory porter
take me to the alley
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qj5z4SbrH20
GFTB
mam is in bed
fitba on computer(muted):))) and Glastonbury on the telly not for her
Jmccormick
We are allowed to dream, Duffy would be my first choice out of the 4, sack that Corbyn guy he can’t even tidy his garden, thankfully Mrs GFTB does gardening as well as painting & decorating …
Weekends are for leisure…. Stuff that DIY stuff
LazybasketCSC
Gregory P
Hey Laura
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWUAKq-reLQ
Greenpinata
“Really. Policy without power is useless. Maybe the new middle class champagne socialists can financially afford to be so principled but the poorest and most vulnerable cannot.
We need a labour leader that can win an election now and implement policy I am not convinced that as nice and principled as Jeremy is he will be able to deliver what the poorest really need and deserve.”
I am well aware that power is necessary in order to defend the weaker and the exploited. That was implicit in what I said.
But it cannot be power at any price, whether you drink champagne or not. If the price of power is that you implement the policies that the Tories were going to implement, you would do as well to not get elected because nobody, especially the poor and vulnerable, would notice the difference.
I do not care if Jeremy is nice- can’t say I noticed- but principled is important. If they are not principled then don’t elect them.
Jeremy was capable of attracting more members to the party than any other recent leader has. If he can attract them, he can, in time, attract the electorate. We just need to counter the “monstering” rhetoric of the mass media and stop peddling it for them.
jim craig on stv glasgow,my life in ten pictures.
Shutting up now, this news from Strathclyde Park makes all this too trivial for words. Hope and pray for the poor weans , adults and their families.
Anyone at the old Fruitmarket last night?
Leftclicktick
When she wakes up the morra give her an extra hug…..
Enjoy the mam sitting and during the summer I hope the wee man heads to the woods and finds those dinosaurs:-)
Jeff Lynne CSC
Magic show!
To paraphrase Jock Stein….referendums are fun fair politics.
A corruption of the parliamentary system which enables politicians to avoid making policy decisions based on beliefs and considered opinion. The use the referendum ploy to avoid decisions which may be unpalatable to their party, membership and the wider community all in pursuit of power….or the avoidance of embarrassing defeat or ridicule.
The spectre of defeat…. when did resignation become the inevitable outcome of defeat especially in effectively a two horse race? Its plain daft. Harold Wilson won three elections but he lost one. Ted Heath lost two and won one. Clem Atlee won two and lost two….etc etc
Political parties should present their platform in a general election….full stop! Referendums are a cop out….dishonest politics.
You may have worked out I’m not a fan of the referendum lol
HH
My son Ryan was at Hampden last week for Coldplay gig. Told me that their set at Glastonbury is a must watch. 9pm BBC2 in 30 minutes.
I love this place:
a twilight zone where Red Ed and Jezza are electable.
Few people want the loony left anywhere near power.
Jeremy was is and always will be an ineffective parliamentary politician. He may be a great man for his constituency but as the main man,at any level, he is seriously inadequate.
He is leader of labour by the accident of events, particularly the PLP who forgot they were supposed to be playing serious politics and not some Fawlty Towers version.
And as for his mandate….pay £3 today and vote for the Leader tomorrow good grief!
Time for someone to take a stranglehold an assert the Democratic Socialist position for modern times in a modern context. It won’t come from a throwback who nobody would have taken seriously at any point in the entire history of the Labour PA. What on earth qualifies him now? A man who couldn’t even commit to his long held antagonism to the EU and it’s predecessors! What a fraud!
HH
ANGEL GABRIEL : Sorry about the very late reply to your question re The Open.. No. 1 daughter (a lurker ) texted me to draw it to my attention . When I am miles behind on the blog,which is often, I tend to skip every second page so I missed you. I am indeed working at The Open from Sunday till Sunday at the 13th hole. I have ‘chosen’ to do crossing duties as I have done ALL duties over the years and now I like the wee sitdown between shots. Look forward to seeing you and anyone else that week. I tend to go into the town on breaks so Lonsdale etc for me.
For that auld rebel kevj
From Gerry McNee
“I sat at the back of Ibrox stadium’s main stand on Wednesday night and wondered what kind of person would want to own, be chairman, director or manager of Rangers Football Club in the 21st century…I was ashamed of my Scottish roots and being born and bred a Glasweigian…the sectarian singing intensified on a night the club introduced a supposed traditional Rangers song ‘The Blue Sea of Ibrox’…a couple of elderly fans told me it was an adaptation of an old Boys’ Brigade number…the minute the Three Stooges [three singers hired by the club to provide pre-match entertainment] began ‘Follow, Follow’, we were on a roller coaster as a frenzied crowd headed into the Billy Boys, Fen1an blood, Celtic, the P0pe, the I*A, Bobby Sands, Derry’s Walls, King James, the Queen and the rest of their bilious repertoire…at Ibrox stadium my stomach churned at the sight of a primeval gathering. It was pernicious, poisonous, virulent, evil…yet so many, including the media, accept it as the norm!”
Kikinthenakas
Laura Kuenssberg is reporting that she has seen evidence that Jeremy Corby “sabotaged” Labour’s Remain campaign.
Look at bbc news EU referendum live updates.
P.s I hope that Laura has a good overtime payment contact as I doubt if she will get much sleep for the next few years.
Kickinthenakas
So I take Gerry accepted it also ……
By the way the “norm” not the best English for a journalist
Really good stuff from Belgium. Pace, tempo, pass and move, players interchanging.
Should be at least three ahead mind you. Need better decision making.
Croppybhoy
I’m afraid that your analysis though correct on many issues fails to address the key element namely that to influence events a party needs to be in power.
I believe I did address it. I said that losing ONE election, if indeed it were to be lost, was a price worth paying. I also said that the group that are plotting are precisely the group that were declared unelectable at the last general election. Can they really tell us they know better how to win after two Cameron terms.
Trade Unions might enjoy having a compliant friendly face at the top of the Labour Party, however if that face is constantly on the Opposition benches, then their members will be getting royally shafted. How does that advance their cause?
The lazy Daily Mail jibe of being compliabt to the Unions. Chance would be a fine thing. That was and remains a figment of a Tory press. We are partners with the Trade Union movement and we should shout it loud and proud so that people do not fall for the lazy thinking of the press monsterings. Every advancement we have made in working and living conditions for the poor and the vulnerable was gained by the power and might of flourishing Trade Unions and a Parliamentary Labour Party willing to work in partnership with but never subservient to the TUC. We used to call the the Labour movement and both were necessary. We never gained anything for free from the hands of a paternal capitalism. We were told the end of child labour would harm the ability of our Coal and mining industry to be profitable and that our chimneys would remain unswept. We were told that a 40 hour week, the minimum wage, maternity pay, decent pensions and benefits for the ill and disabled would all ruin the country’s economy. But we fought for them and got them.
We had Thatcher and Major for nearly two decades, while people on the left consoled themselves with telling the world they were right and everyone else was wrong.
And were Thatcher and Major right then? Were the people who opposed them wrong? They were unsuccessful in persuading a majority of the electorate but, having lived through those times, I can still remember how a “Falklands” War, successfully negotiated, was an absolute necessity for a 2nd Thatcher term. Without a war, she was on course to lose. So a war was found.
Now the Labour Party did need reformed but the leaders we had who carried through those reforms (Foot, Kinnock, and Smith) had all made those reforms. The only new ideas introduced by New Labour were a) to add New to the party title- an ad trade trick, and b) to sign a deal with the Murdoch Press, those hackers of dead girls phones, to lay off the monstering (of Blair, at least) and we would do nothing to check his power and influence. How did that work for us? How safe did we make the poor and vulnerable by raiding the pension pot and signing up to the Iraq War?
To me it’s a bit (just a bit) like those CFC fans who trumpet the “playing football the Celtic way” ahead of CFC actually winning things!
I come close to agreeing on this. To any competitive sportsperson, winning is all. But the fan might be allowed to prefer watching a Federer to a Sampras.
Brown spent so much time plotting against Blair and vice versa that in the end they lost sight of their real enemy, the Tories!
Blair’s plot was done at the beginning. He signed up with Rupert. He persuaded Rupert to leave off him. He never mentioned that he had to leave off Gordon.
Whether Tony ever had any intention of ceding power to Gordon, as he seemed to have promised, is moot now. He certainly convinced himself that he was indispensable to Labour being in power but, even if he had stayed on, he would have lost an election. Both he and Thacher got out before we could deliver their epitaph. Never mind though, Tony should get a fitting judgement next week when a watered down Chilcott Report will still tag him as a Liar and Warmonger.
For me the Labour Party remains the only party that as actually created a better environment for the broad mass of people in this country.
It did as part of the Labour Movement.
Like football, politics for me is tribal, so I will always vote Labour because that’s the way I was brought up, same as I was brought up to support CFC!
To an extent but, when your party transforms before your eyes from a mixed-economy Socialist Party into a Centrist Populist “say and believe anything that wins votes” Party, then you are in the same position as a Celtic fan who sees their club’s PLC peddle an Old Firm line, even as they were screwed by the club with which they are uniting.
That might be unpopular to some on here who have been seduced by the siren song of the SNP, however sooner or later they will have to wake up to the reality that the SNP are a shower of parochial shysters with pretentious way above their ability!
I am no fan of the SNP but I can sympathise that, when you win a landslide, you are going to have a parliament full of untried and untested MPs and MSPs. The Labour Party used to have a lot of unimpressive elected members in the 60s and 70s from Scotland who went to London and never spoke or made a mark. Even when we recruited higher calibre politicians in more recent years, it did no good as they became corrupted by their environment and their detachment from their constituencies, that they joined in the Expenses Scandal as enthusiastically as any venal Tory with a desire for a new moat.
Our party needed a clean up, a big one. Electing Jeremy was a necessary purgative. We still have a long way to go. But I remain prouder of our Party’s contribution to the betterment of this land than any other Party, including one with pretensions to left wing values (whether that be New Blairite Labour or the SNP).
Jeremy will go soon but I hope he wins this battle first.
The Labour Coup is only happening as they know an election, possibly before the end of the year, is on the cards and they believe, very rightly, that Corbyn won’t win against a Tory party that is eating itself whole.
I always thought that the tories would give Scotland home rule and full control. labour need to prepare for that and become the party of home rule.
They are a busted flush in England but can turn things round up here.
Thirds63,
Your opinion on Referenda is spot on.
Especially ones that have no constitutional, legal standing.
They are worth no more than a show of hands at a meeting.
I watch a bit of that QT circus tonight.
If that crew represents current UK politicians, then I’ll never say a bad word about our Dail members.
GIGGSY on 26TH JUNE 2016 8:58 PM
The Labour Coup is only happening as they know an election, possibly before the end of the year, is on the cards and they believe, very rightly, that Corbyn won’t win against a Tory party that is eating itself whole.
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So nothing to do with the imminent publication of the Chilcot report then?
Fellow Celtic fans, yet again 2 Sundays on the trot I have posted on politics…..managed to avoid it all for 45+years…. I visit this site for 1 reason … Celtic, usually end up posting about betting and daft family stuff ….. Hope all out there that need prayers get their wishes, hope others get through what they have to get through …….
God night and God bless….. Still the best blog I have ever posted on……(the only one :-))
Where is that ….. The Bhoy Jinky ? This place is better with good Celtic fans
TBJ……
DogwithaboneCSC
Hrvatski Jim
Laura Kuenssberg occupies the same position as Nick Robinson.
They are both the BBC’s concession to the ruling Tories. In exchange for renewing the License fee you have to give us a more “sympathetic” Politics Editor. No more of that professional neutrality exercised by the likes of John Cole and John Pienaar. We want an ex head of the Consevative Association at Oxford or the daughter of a man who devised “legal” means to thwart the Peruvian Government giving workers a 50% stake in the company for which they provided the profits.
Kuenssberg has been far from neutral in her attack dog editorials on Jeremy Corbyn- she misses the “He said- She said” banter of Prime Ministers Question Time and, as befits an ex Laurel Park Girl, wants a return to school debating society rules.
Everybody knows that Jeremy Corbyn was lukewarm on the EU and so he should have been. It is far from being an undoubted force for good. The only sabotage she will find is indications where he was unwilling to lie on behalf of the virtues of the EU. Even if last Thursday’s referendum had been won by Remain, the only re-joicing to be had would be over us avoiding some divorce-caused impoverishment and the same applies to the Indy Ref result. The hard work remained to be done even after a win for the “let’s not throw away our economy” side of the argument.
James MacLean is a couple of yards faster than GMS,no thanks
Bada…..
A couple of yards….come come man. I never took you as one to exaggerate!!!!
HH lol
SFTB
Thank you for taking the time and trouble to reply to my thoughts so comprehensively.
In reality I don’t think that we are so far apart in what we would like to see, though perhaps further apart on how we see things in the short to medium term.
Like many football fans I suppose that I’m as guilty as the next in wanting success right away, so too in politics, I would like to see the Labour Party in power after the next election, not further down the line.
I share your thoughts on the wider Labour movement having been in my Union for over 30 years.
Let’s hope the party stays together as the advent of a new SDP will simply play in to the hands of the right!
HH
Magyars making a game of this
Third-he has done very well for himself and good luck to him,but he is another guy with no impact or end product
Lakaku can trap it further than i can kick it
Belgium taking this a bit too easy….
commentators following the golden rule
talk up every player from the EPL
great goal by Hazard
superb from Hazard 3-0