A journalist, banned by Celtic, attacked the club in the Daily Record today, suggesting the SFA chief exec Stuart Regan should have told Peter Lawwell to ‘wind his neck in’ and ‘remind him of his duty to the game’ after he wrote asking for clarification after Sunday’s game.
The hyperbole was raised to the extent the notion “Lawwell dragged our game back into a very dark place – somewhere dangerously close to disrepute” was put into hundreds of thousands of hands today.
A dark place, close to disrepute? For writing a letter asking for clarification? Sounds to me like the know the trouble Peter Lawwell is causing to the vested interests at Hampden and they want him stopped.
By remarkable coincidence, this happens to be the same journo who wrote the puff piece for SFA president, Campbell ‘What school did you go to?’ Ogilvie for writing to Uefa demanding a referee was demoted (while circumventing due process) and asking for a player to be banned.
No mention of winding a neck in or duty to the game for a vastly farther reaching letter.
The same paper gives a platform to Barry ‘EBT’ Ferguson to level wholly inaccurate accusations against Celtic:
“By questioning the reasoning behind [the failure to award a penalty]in the name of their supporters, they were nodding towards all manner of hoary old conspiracy theories.”
Conspiracy you say, Barry? Who mentioned conspiracy? An explanation that the standard of refereeing is not good enough and that having 6 officials at Hampden hindered good decision making didn’t occur to you?
Some people are quick to deny conspiracies when a far less controversial response is available.
A concerted campaign has run for days now to ensure that Celtic cannot ask questions without being demonised. When the media demonise those who question authority we are in a very dark place indeed.
This is intolerable. It would not happen in England, where the breadth of media is wide enough to escape narrow seams of authority. It doesn’t matter if it is the government, the Church, the police, big business or sport, if media collaborate with power, you have problems.
Some of it comes from people perhaps bitter that Celtic called them out and banned them, some from those unable to find perspective or consistency between writing about a Campbell Ogilvie letter and a Peter Lawwell letter. All of them are time-served opinion formers who make money from Celtic’s actions.
We are the last superpower in the game, survivors in the battle of the ages. This antagonism isn’t going away. Not until their grandchildren are in place, anyway.
Clubs need to write letters when improvement is needed. I hear estimates that income to Celtic from winning the Scottish Cup would have been in the region of £1m. Football is big business and processes and resources need to as good as they possibly can be. If they are not, the very least you can do is ask for improvement.
On Meekings appeal yesterday….
The player’s appeal was right to be upheld, the case should never have been put before the SFA panel in the first place. The referee Steven McLean saw the incident. That was not disputed. He asked his assistant for his opinion. That was not disputed either.
Meekings representatives pointed out at the hearing that officials are not allowed to re-referee a game after watching TV. This is a central tenant of the game and was accepted by the judicial panel.
Retrospective action is only allowed for incidents which referees did not see. It is not permitted for referees to reconsider an incident he saw. It is blindingly embarrassing to our game that the SFA didn’t know the rules well enough before taking this action. I hear there was incredulity at Celtic when they heard Meekings was banned in the first place.
…… and you wonder why Celtic write letters.
Last call for the Ben Nevis Huddle……..
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Lambert / Albertz.
I don’ think Lambert got a second yellow or a red.He went off because he was seriously injured .NB – my memory is poor and absolutely not to be trusted .!
thinking of you tmcl
Bringing the game in to disrepute?
Surely that’s exactly what McLean and Muir did when they exchanged the brotherhood handshake in full view of millions.
Where’s the compliance officer when you need him………oops he’s on his way to his Friday night ludge meeting.
If it’s Busby then he can get to grips with McLean at first hand…….so I’m informed.
Who are these people….c’mon Ally show us your list.
weeminger
17:52 on 24 April, 2015
Where did you hear that sevco will be refused ISDX ?
Celtic’s current position as understood by John Paul Taylor ,
In terms of your second point, I believe the following to be the case
As we announced in February 2011, we have a standalone strategy that does not rely on any club.
That strategy has been successful. We do not need to talk about any other club. We focus on our club.
These are the facts:-
The Rangers Football Club plc went into administration in March 2012 and liquidation in November 2012.
Sevco Scotland Limited, later renamed The Rangers Football Club Limited, applied to be, and became, a member of the Scottish FA and the Scottish Football League in summer 2012.
In the Scottish FA and SPFL competitions, there is a team called Rangers FC, which plays at Ibrox, trains at Murray Park, and has the same crest, strip and supporters as before.
We need to play whoever we are asked to play in those competitions.
As a club, we stopped referring to the Old Firm some time ago, as we did not think that the term was relevant.
We will continue to focus on our own club and being as successful as we can be by beating whichever team is put in front of us.
I hope this helps in terms of clarifying where we are with these matters but if I can provide any more info or assistance please just let me know.
Tom McLaughlin
Thoughts and prayers, at this sad time.
PAul,
don’t forget the Daily Mail.
The piece by Adrian Durham was nothing short of an all out attack on Celtic.
I have had great fun this week at work asking the knuckle draggers to name one incident of refereeing that went against Rangers/ Sevco that impacted a result.
The invariable answer is there are millions of them when pressed a throw in in 1989 ( 26 years ago) is the answer. Joe Miller then went on to score.
They really hate it when we push back and put them on the spot.
Celtic need to keep the pressure up, ban the Daily Mail until Durham issues an apology and kick the Record into touch.
Seville67
South of Tunis, I think you are correct, he was on a previous yellow for a tackle on Amoruso, He went off injured and I’m pretty certain he was replaced.
Memoriesandtrickscsc
south of tunis
He got shown the red.
I cannot remember whether it was as he got loaded onto the stretcher or not really but i think it was about then.
leftclick, thanks for the correction, i should have known that there would not be a ref by the name of Murphy in charge of one of their games. i unfortunately cannot see any change take place at the sfa unless every fan stops watching the game or all clubs come out and demand a change. hunish wee people looking after hunish wee peeple.
Strange that emails like this were the remit of a Supporters Liason Officer.
Don’t you think?
67heaven – workmate heard it, so a wee bit of googling brought it up on the Rangers Supporters Loyal site. Guy has been accurate before apparently, so that’s good enough for me.
tom mclaughlan
may your mum rest in peace.
Davidopoulos
Well, I thought I was over it – but perhaps not!
I remember thinking “I hope all your teeth fall out except one – and then you get toothache!” Hmmmm. Might have had a coupon on that day!
I don’t let things go easily. My knuckles grazed the ceiling the other night when Atletico Madrid lost a goal in the 88th minute :-)
OK I’ve gone through my records and they say he didn’t get a red or a yellow for the Albertz incident (Sorry Thunder Road). They say he was on a previous yellow and that after the Albertz tackle he went off injured and was replaced by Johann Mjallby.
Syd Negakev
17:40 on 24 April, 2015
Handballgate seems to have taken attention away from Doncaster and Fixturegate. I’m sure he’s relieved about that.
Scottish football seems to have more gates than a gate supermarket and I’m sure there’ll be another one along pretty soon.
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Also means there has been no questions about booking-gate. Why was Draper not booked when it looked like he was going to be…..?
BSR from earlier today
BMCUW
“The irony is that Barry Ferguson and all the other players or ex employees
of dead club that SMSM have on speed dial, helped fuel the conspiracy, and consequently it helped lead to their demise, in the attempted cover up, which ran since Moonbeams under wrote 50m in shares.
A cover up that was exposed on CQN long before they were even aware that their club was heading towards upwardly facing nipple.
With regard to Celtic’s role in the demise of Rainjurs that’s where Celtic fans disagree, and as for buying tickets I still cling to the hope that the Sevco fiasco will end like Rainjurs.
If we’re doing conspiracies let’s do ‘the same club’ one – that’s the daddy of them all.”
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You’re not wrong, and it’s got official blessing, of course.
http://spfl.co.uk/clubs/rangers/
Founded 1872, all ” world record ” honours listed too.
Absolute piss- take.
Herbo – why is it strange? The SLO is the point of contact between the club and the supporters.
Seville67,
He is a scrote.
I jump in the car after work and the first thing I do is switch over.
HH
SOT…
Lambert got the ball first….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKwTIwa20kY
Meeting arranged with SNP MSP to discuss OBaF Act for 29th May.
From a BBC report at the time
Referee Kenny Clark waited a full 35 minutes before issuing the first yellow card, to Lambert for a late challenge on Amoruso.
With the Celtic defending becoming increasingly desperate, Albertz showed all his experience when he pushed the ball dangerously into the box and simply waited for the challenge.
It came from Lambert, who flew in at full stretch – conceding the penalty and a facial injury which saw him stretchered from the field to be replaced by Johan Mjallby.
Weeminger
My point being. I think the role of SLO should be reviewed. Don’t get me wrong. JP is a great guy and goes beyond the call of duty often. It seems to me though that since this Uefa directive don’t forget, of appointing a SLO, JP has been hung out to dry on all sorts of issues that a board of directors should be answering to.
Herbo 18.05
Are you referring to my post at 18.01?
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Though we have a few options on the left
I have a memory of Paul Lambert being tackled by Albertz at Hampden in a League cup semi and Albertz was sliding under Lambert. Paul had an opportunity to fall on his face and enact revenge but he avoided doing that.
Pure class!
HT
Still no reply from Billy The Kidd
Herbo – I think his remit includes speaking for the board eg that reply above clearly would not be allowed out without being approved by the board, so it can be taken as the position of the club/board.
Eurochamps67
Yes sir, I was. If you read on you’ll hopefully get where I was coming from.
STV news:Meekings let off on a technicality.ICT lawyer argues, successfully that at least one of the officials saw the incident.
So the panel have been convinced the officials are lying.
After Broonie’s night out a couple of weeks ago, the BBC went to the bother and expense of getting the opinion of a nutritionist type, why are they not examining Muir’s comments, captured on film? Maybe they have and don’t like what they heard.
Has anyone asked Alan Muir yet what he said or would that be too simple:))
I’ve got a maroon jumper, to go with maroon shooders!
theglasgowcelticway
I dont think so. The argument is that, the panel cannot review a call if the incident was seen by the referee or assistant. Here, the ref/assistant said that they saw the incident, but that they thought the ball hit his head, and not that he handled the ball. If they accept that the referee saw it, but made a mistake, then they cannot do anything retrospectively.
So, I’m not sure that your conclusion holds. We all know the ref is lying, but that isn’t the point …
Weeminger
Yes. Of course, I would take it as so. However. I reckon a SLO is not the way to answer these types of questions.
SLO says, look. This is what I’m told our position is. It’s not my decision. The support ask questions of the statement. Is he in a position to answer?
It’s no right. wether it be huns, refs, blazers or coppers. He shouldn’t be the man dealing with these issues imo. He should be dealing with tickets, buses, European trips, stewarding problems etc
How many trophy’s were Celtic FC…cheated out of coz…Fergus sat on the ‘can-of-worms’….and, didny take-out Farry till has final day’s in control of Celtic?
Was Mr Stein’s Magnificent achievement of 9 in a row…meekly surrendered to the huns coz…Fergus stayed schtum…about the ‘can-of-worms’…as he was more concerned wi his going-away-wonga-from-Celtic-fans?
Why….16 years after Fergus departed…are the Celtic support still locked oot of the club that they built and, paid for?
When will Celtic fans realize that they are being treated as mugs by…the Celtic board and their…hun-establishment pals?
When will…………………..ach fluck it…….oot.
Oh well, that’s us fecked…the mullet is compiling a dossier of players he wants for next season if he’s still the manager.
The idiot huns in the work swallow (old hun hotel btw) this pish, the smarter ones evade it.
They are waiting in bated breath…as TET said to me last night don’t hold it in or Yer deid.
Rare irate poster
So the sfa panel are now saying an official saw the ‘incident’, so did he see the handball or not, if he did not see the handball then he did not see the incident and the player involved has a case to answer.
If he did see the handball, did they conclude it was not a penalty ? If so, then why as it taken this long to say this and why did they not make this known to the compliance officer before a formal notice of complaint was raised as is the official protocol ?
There is no question something is being covered up, they knew ICT would pursue this making a cover up harder.
It’s important that we as Celtic fans do not back off now and that the club sees this through.
I fear the club will let it go.