When you got nothing, you got nothing to lose

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So why go to court when you know you have signed up to a rule (literally) that forbids you from going to court and that will almost certainly lead to your expulsion from football?

Because almost certainly being expelled from football is a better option than the alternative.

As Bob said: “When you got nothing, you got nothing to lose”.

They have nothing. Nothing.

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  1. bournesouprecipe

     

     

    Thanks m8,

     

     

    I’m going to print off Gordon’s story for my Dad to read, he hates computers, I’ll print off these pictures too.

  2. Rascar Capac on

    Bouresouprecipe

     

     

    The players versus Prague…. I wouldn’t want to meet them on a dark night!

  3. leftclicktic on

    Im really really away this time :)))

     

     

    By GLENN GIBBONS

     

    Published on Saturday 26 May 2012 00:00

     

     

    Nobody who watched the BBC’s compelling investigation into the Rangers scandal this week could have taken long to reach the conclusion that the Ibrox club’s former owner, David Murray, had managed to take the concept of profligacy to a new level; that is, to an unprecedented depth.

     

     

    The most striking aspect of the list of employees – these ranged from the owner/chairman himself through fellow executives to players – to have been beneficiaries of the disputed EBT scheme was the breathtakingly high number of blatantly undeserving recipients.

     

     

    Even Murray’s stoutest apologists, for example, would have difficulty in reconciling his ego-propelled charge towards financial devastation with the £6.3 million that is said to have been his reward.

     

     

    As for the club’s followers, their readiness to acclaim many of their so-called heroes will surely have been diluted by the revelation of the extraordinary amounts of money allocated to distinctly ordinary ‘talents’.

     

     

    Chief among these is the perennial reserve, Nacho Novo, a ‘player’ whose almost constant omission from Walter Smith’s starting line-up amounted to a declaration of the manager’s contempt for his abilities. Smith’s low opinion was undoubtedly vindicated when the fans turned Novo into what is commonly known as ‘a cult hero’, one of football’s great euphemisms for a player of seriously limited capabilities. Perhaps the adulation for the little Spanish ‘striker’ sprang from the style with which he kissed the badge. The staggering, tax-free £1.2 million he is reported to have received in addition to his declared salary certainly could not be justified by his rather paltry 47 goals in six years.

     

     

    Novo, of course, does not have a monopoly on obtaining an obscene return for a moderate contribution. Michael Ball, the full-back signed from Everton, was said to have secured a ‘loan’ amounting to £1.4 million, but, in his four years, he did not play often enough to determine whether or not he was any good.

     

     

    Ball, in fact, should have been recognised as a fairly early marker for the potentially deadly course on which Rangers were set. One of the reasons he could have been named after a Damon Runyon character (the Seldom Seen Kid) was that a certain number of appearances would trigger payments to Everton which Rangers – this was back around 2004 – were already having difficulty in affording.

     

     

    But, apart from Novo and Ball, it requires merely a quick scan of the list to reveal at least 20 non-entities in receipt of around an aggregate £10 million. For Rangers supporters, of course, the most distressing element of the entire affair is the possibility that the haemorrhaging, even now, has not yet been staunched (q.v. Tax Case, Big).

     

     

    A NUMBER of strands emerged from Mark Daly’s documentary on Wednesday, not least of which was the unmistakable, malodorous whiff of suspicion surrounding the ‘performance’ of the court-appointed administrators of the stricken Rangers, Duff and Phelps.

     

     

    Various allegations were made against the competence – and, more seriously, even the professional conduct – of the company’s representatives at Ibrox, which may yet become the subject of retaliatory legal action. For mere observers, however, there is already sufficient material in the public domain to warrant bewilderment.

     

     

    You could fire a scatter gun into a lift crammed with insolvency experts and not hit anyone who understands an administration process which, after three months, does not boast a single redundancy. There is also widespread bemusement over Duff and Phelps’ achievement in sustaining losses of over £1 million a month, precisely the amount they themselves insisted that Rangers were obliged to save in order simply to fulfil their SPL fixture list.

     

     

    There is also, of course, the lengthy series of ‘deadlines’ set for such imperatives as nominating a preferred bidder, for lodging offers from prospective buyers and an entire series of insistent pronouncements that were later retracted as the D & P representatives, Paul Clark and David Whitehouse, became experts in the verbal somersault.

     

     

    All of this leads to the impression that you could take the administrators’ utterances to the bank – but you would almost certainly be charged with attempting to pass counterfeit currency.

     

     

    The Scottish FA’s so-called “fit and proper” test in relation to club executives has been made to look risible by their own president. Campbell Ogilvie’s alleged involvement in the EBT scheme during his time at Rangers may not make him culpable of an offence, but public figures have never needed guilt to remove them from office; credibility, or at least the loss of it, is usually quite sufficient.

     

     

    Ogilvie’s association with the excesses of the Murray regime at Ibrox – as well as his rush into denial – has rendered him pathetic among the football public. Surely someone at Hampden HQ will advise him of the appropriateness of making a voluntary departure to avoid the embarrassment of an enforced eviction.

  4. Dublinbhoy on 26 May, 2012 at 01:10 said:

     

    praecepta

     

     

    Yep, BB is excellent. I always felt that great guitar players were great not because of the loudness nor complexity of their sound but rather the simplicity.

     

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    Excellent example – discovered his stuff thanks to this:

     

     

    Modern re-mix of an old JJ Cale classic!

  5. petec

     

     

    nice.

     

     

    Rascar

     

     

    It was a grim stadium, in the days of monochrome photos. As mentioned earlier Dukla were a formidable Army outfit, and having won 3-1 at CP, we didn’t chase the game but contained Prague.

  6. I found this so inspirational I just have to repost it…………………..

     

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    If they can become champions of Europe, anything is possible

     

    Posted on 25 May, 2012 by Paul67

     

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    But somewhere out of the darkness must come light. My generation coincided with Celtic’s worst period. Yet they still occupied a special place at the edge of my imagination, as a powerful, strange force that always somehow held the promise of a sense of meaning.

     

     

    And now, incredibly, that promise threatens to be delivered. So savour this moment. Remember this place. Remember the way it looks and sounds and smells. Remember the way the moment feels. Savour it when life gets tough. Because if this can happen – if a football team that contains Catholics and Protestants, a set of players who all hail from the Glasgow area, a club set up to feed the hungry children of despised immigrants – if they can become champions of Europe, then anything is possible.

     

     

    From The Road to Lisbon, a novel, published today, by Martin Greig and Charles McGarry.

     

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    Mustard seed.

     

     

    Captivated the World.

     

     

    End Rangers now please.

  7. leftclicktic

     

     

    “Ogilvie’s association with the excesses of the Murray regime at Ibrox – as well as his rush into denial – has rendered him pathetic among the football public. Surely someone at Hampden HQ will advise him of the appropriateness of making a voluntary departure to avoid the embarrassment of an enforced eviction.”

     

     

    *tic tock tic tock*

  8. Tremendous article by Mr Gibbons. Inverted commas have never looked so good as in the paragraph about Novo, while his call for Ogilvie’s resignation must surely set the wheels in motion. Consistently the best newspaper sports journalist in Scotland by a country mile. No matter the depth of competition, as they’re not fit to re-charge his lap-top.

  9. Rascar Capac on

    Bourne

     

     

    Their faces are interesting though.

     

     

    You can read their character from that picture.

     

     

    Or maybe you can only if you spent your whole life people watching and ignoring normal stuff like jobs and family and sanity.

     

     

    Pauls article earlier identified them as extraordinary men.

     

     

    Why were they?

     

     

    Because Jock was a people watcher.

     

     

    He could see, and he could convince.

  10. SaintLubo on 26 May, 2012 at 01:25 said:

     

    For those who love guitar, you can’t go past The Master:

     

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    Think you might like this – one of their many classical examples:

     

     

    Classical guitar = rock music!

  11. Mountain_Bhoy is Neil Lennon on

    quite remarkeable that the normally hard nosed establishment fear the mob rule, just shows whats possible in the UK if yer feared! perhaps thats why ‘they’ are finished? ‘their’ ways are outdated and finished..

     

     

    2012 was always predicted to be a momentous year in more ways than one!

  12. Rascar

     

     

    Interesting observation, never studied that myself.

     

     

    But they were extraordinary, in every way.

     

     

    The Ronnie Simpson back heeler (which has been recounted tonight) was

     

    bordering on bizarre, as ‘Faither’ had never previously taken a gamble in his life.

     

     

    The team became more gigantic the longer the game continued.

  13. Rascar Capac

     

     

    As time goes on Jock’s achievements will magnify even further.

     

     

    The game of football is now very professional. And it makes the game a business more than anything else.

     

     

    I’d still put any money on a Jock Stein team to beat any team procured at high cost from around the globe.

     

     

    While we are in the SPL, we must bring through our own players to be able to have a real crack at the CL proper. Rangers liquidating will give us a bit of breathing space to bring through the players at a better rate, as the SPL is a decent entry level of football for our youngsters.

  14. He is Charlie Mulgrew

     

     

    It will be very difficult for Charlie to keep up the performance of this year going into next year.

     

     

    The one thing that is CERTAIN. Charlie will work his boll*cks off to make sure he remains in this Evolving Celtic team.

     

     

    This Evolving team will need an even better Charlie Mulgrew next time out and I think he will progress again and keep a first team slot when the real big games come around.

     

     

    Celtic CAN only accept players with the Mulgrew attitude, even now when we are domestic winners we need them under pressure to realise domestic success is just the platform and they ALL must work even harder now.

  15. kitalba on 26 May, 2012 at 02:28

     

     

    As the esteemed philvis would indicate. ;)

     

     

    thumbsup :)

     

     

    The phrase Keep the Faith is special.

     

     

    Staying strong no matter what is important.

     

     

    Quality youtube.

  16. Rascar Capac on

    When I think about the Lisbon Lions character, and try to identify it in players I’ve seen, one man springs to mind.

     

     

    And I tried to get rid of this thought, but I can’t.

     

     

    In 1988 I was in the jungle watching Celtic v Dundee.

     

     

    There was a very bold number 8 for Dundee running the show.

     

     

    Of the twenty two on the pitch I couldn’t help but watch him.

     

     

    He washed up at Rangers.

     

     

    A man of limited ability he fitted the bill at Ibrox, and I thought no more of him.

     

     

    Then they played Juventus in the champions League.

     

     

    They were terrified, and lost by a big score.

     

     

    But there was one player showing character, and if he was more skillful Jock might have used him.

     

     

    John Brown played like a someone apart.

     

     

    Like I think Jock got the Celtic players to think.

     

     

    Imagine 11 skillful John Browns…

  17. Rascar,

     

     

    If there was such a thing as 11 skilful John Brown’s they would all have ended up at rangers, played for pennies and won everything the Scottish referees let them win.

     

     

    I bet Sir Murray wishes that had happened, John probably couldn’t spell EBT!!

  18. Was slap bang in the middle of writing this out earlier until a good CQNer picked me up to go out and watch the Barca Cup Final.

     

    Now I have returned with Gold (nectar) in great store, I’ll start again.

     

    June 2010

     

    I was on a Med Cruise with my wife and daughter, France , Vigo etc.

     

    We had booked an excursion for each port, bar one, Lisbon.

     

    When we docked that morning, we rolled down the runway and onward to a taxi.

     

    Estadio Nacional driver thank you, ahh Celtic?

     

    Yep, the polo shirt was a give-away!

     

    We arrived around 10 am, not a soul to be seen. Kicked around for five minutes until a groundsman appeared. Excuse me Senor would it be ok to have a wander around?

     

    Spotting my shirt he said no problem, I asked would it be ok to go onto the park? He replied of course,anywhere at all.

     

    HEAVEN!!

     

    Firstly it was the centre circle where the game in my head kicked off.

     

    Within 2 minutes I was sick, we were a goal down, to a penalty against a stalwart defence.

     

    Not the start I was looking for, I looked at my imaginary team mates and we rallied.

     

    Before too long we were back in control, passing them to death.

     

    45 minutes whizzed by, still a goal down.

     

    The emotion I felt when I battered in Big Tam’s equaliser was overwhelming. I didn’t know where to run!

     

    We were in control.

     

    We were gonnae win this, just a matter of time. When I touched in Chalmers’ winner nothing could describe it. I ran towards the thousands in the empty stands ( but for two) and took the acclaim.

     

    WHAT A FEELING

     

    At this point my wife tells me my daughter asked what I was doing???

     

    She told her I was winning the European Cup!

     

    And that’s exactly what I was doing, for my wee moment.

     

    As I ran to the stands I had to remind myself that the crowd was Colour and not what I had watched in B&W!!

     

    Nothing could match how I was feeling at this point….Nothing.

     

    I climbed up to where Billy lifted it, looked across Lisbon.

     

    I sat on 20 different seats and Imagined the feeling.

     

    I went down to the tunnel and came up singing Hail Hail.

     

    I sat next to my wife and daughter in the press seats and imagined we were watching the ultimate victory as a family.

     

    It was just like my Dad told me over and over, it didn’t disappoint.

     

    I felt everything a Tim would feel that day and the crazy thing is when it really did take place in 67, I was 2 years away from birth!!!!!

     

    Listening to my old man all this years left me in no doubt, when I took to the field it didn’t let down.

     

    It was some day

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