Coverage of Neil Lennon’s press conference was curated to show the manager angry and apparently confused about the health of his squad. The reason for his anger was omitted from the snippets available online yesterday afternoon, then mocked by those who should know better.
Neil clearly explained what upset him (full transcript from GlasgowLive). The country is following medical advice to maintain a 2m social distance. Football has followed this rule and it was the determining factor in isolating Ryan Christie and Kieran Tierney when they were within 2m of infected Stuart Armstrong with Scotland in October. Only Christie and Tierney had to isolate as the rest of the squad were not within 2m of Armstrong for any period of time.
Clubs across the UK have made travel arrangements accordingly, keeping a 2m distance between players where possible, or accepting the risk if packing them in any tighter. The 2m rule has been absolute and continues to feature in public health adverts.
What happened politically after Celtic left for Dubai is why you saw an angry Celtic manager yesterday.
On 5 January, Nicola Sturgeon used her daily PR conference to reference photographs of Celtic players in Dubai poolside, and while admitting she had no actual information to backup what she was saying, questioned if Celtic were following her rules. Celtic were following the rules, but that is irrelevant to the Show Trial the First Minister launched.
As Neil Lennon explained, the Scottish Government turned on Celtic, creating a brand new 3m rule for them, while every other club in Scotland with a positive case has been asked to observe a 2m rule.
This is the reason our number of excluded players was as high for the Hibs and Livi games. It is the reason we were subsequently forced to keep players 3m apart when travelling, or 3 players to a 52 seater bus. The rule change was not announced by the First Minister at her PR conferences and has not been forced on any other club, it was delivered below the radar on a vulnerable club with a baying mob (including former players who care nothing for us) ready to lap it up.
Despite the acres of gorging media coverage, no one has solicited a comment on Neil’s claim from the Scottish Government. The Celtic manager appears in front of the country’s media to explain how the Government apply one rule to Celtic and another to the rest of the country, and the headlines are all about his anger! Do you want Tony ‘Take it on the chin’ instead?
The First Minister is on the hook for this. She promised action on Celtic despite knowing they followed her rules, and she followed through with this 3m punishment. It keeps eyes away from her day job. But Neil did the inverted commas sign and he’s having a nightmare season, so some would rather mock, speculate about his mental health or drinking habits. I hope it’s worth the clicks.
Maybe my views were forged when the SFA’s Jim Farry had one rule for Celtic and another for everyone else, but I think the only acceptable reaction to this from a Celtic manager or supporter is seething anger. This is no different in execution or consequence.
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BSR
The good old days that stopped when rangers and the old firm died.
Apologies to all the community-minded CQNers who have been trying to make it a bit more bearable on here recently.
BOURNESOUPRECIPE on 19TH JANUARY 2021 7:21 PM
I just got a dead arm cos I opened that with Missus behind me, ffs you.
The return of p8ddy
BSR…………………
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Single you say?
…………..I’m only seein’ double!
Pwooooooar CSC
HH
RE Eddy
Heard from a couple of people he wasn’t at training today. Don’t know for sure.
It is possible to be infected more than once but second time symptoms either won’t develop or don’t be as severe or long lasting.
However the person could still pass the virus to others and so would need to isolate.
BOURNESOUPRECIPE…
I’m very glad you posted that list – it outlines the extraordinary pressure Lennon has bene under for years. And also shows why up till now he’s been a credit to the club in the face of unbelievable aggression and bigotry.
I’d hope it’s been a learning experience for our country – but considering how few journalists and news media called out his treatment, I’d doubt it.
That said, it shouldn’t stop us commenting on when he gets something, or many things, dreadfully wrong. His experiences make him admirable, not infallible.
/p
CELTIC40ME…
I’ve been here for yonks! Once again spreading my own brand of malcontentedness! ;)
/p
Thanks TBB:-)
A wee(song)repost from end of last night..Thanks Tim.
TIMHORTON on 19TH JANUARY 2021 4:42 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnbOKH9Oe9s&feature=youtu.bec
HH
P8DDY on 19TH JANUARY 2021 7:28 PM
I hope it doesnt annoy you too much that I hadn’t noticed you until now :)
God knows how it could happen :)
BGFC
Blackberry Smoke..first iv heard of them.that was a tune mate.be lookin them up for some more of that.
Was a great guitarist down my way called Big George.his band were the Business..quite literally
” SAINT STIVS on 19TH JANUARY 2021 7:22 PM”
Jinky and Yogi ?
P8DDY on 19TH JANUARY 2021 7:28 PM
CELTIC40ME…
I’ve been here for yonks! Once again spreading my own brand of malcontentedness! ;)
/p
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And a fine brand o malcontentedness it is too Paddy.:-) keep postin :-)
HH
P8DDY
I hope you’re well
It’s all water under the bridge and a sad episode whilst we wait for ‘the bored’ to move us into the new era. I assume it was really obvious that Neil Lennon couldn’t recover the position we’re in, regardless of how much criticism, conspiracy or self flaggelation Dubai yields.
I could just as well post his footballing highlights, fat lot of good it does for the people that were hell bent on saying he was the wrong appointment from the start,
As a manager:
5 x League Titles 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆
4 x Scottish Cups 🏆🏆🏆🏆
1 x League Cup. 🏆
Highlights:
First Celtic manager to top a Europa League group including 2 wins over Serie A Lazio ✅
2-1 over Barcelona in 125th Anniversary game ✅
Champions League Last 16 ✅
Steadied the ship after Rodgers walked out approaching the latter stages of a league campaign ✅
First person in Scottish football history to secure a treble as player & manager ✅
I think like many others do, certain legacy stalwarts downed tools, and we bought poorly.
The rest is history
HH
CELTIC40ME…
I hope it doesnt annoy you too much that I hadn’t noticed you until now :)
Ha ha! Not at all. It’s nice being back and talking about Celtic, lockdown has definitely meant less in the way of real world, and more now in the form of virtual. Also – my son is now 4, he desperately needs indoctrination, so here I am!
God knows how it could happen :)
Maybe (hopefully!) I’m mellowing in my old age. I doubt it, but hope springs eternal.
/p
P8 @ 7.21
Communist / SSP voter — middle class ego tripper more like.
Why vote for real change when you can play the holier than thou card and wave on the sidelines.
You are NL biggest fan but you are happy to nit pick away and show how intelligent you are — allegedly.
All those hours in the St Als 6th year common room being used tto good effect.
Looking verywhere to find new rhetorical sticks to beat him with.
The only thing missing was the green ink.
If you are — as you claim — a NL supporter then I would hate to see his enemies.
You were the future once …
Or so you claimed.
Micro Marxist and Toaty Trumper posting at the same time …
A bromance made in Garnethill.
Alice — where is the sick bucket?
HOT SMOKED on 19TH JANUARY 2021 7:37 PM
” SAINT STIVS on 19TH JANUARY 2021 7:22 PM”
Jinky and Yogi ?
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mibbies aye, but which is which
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HOT SMOKED on 19TH JANUARY 2021 5:49 PM
“We provide one of the largest away team changing areas in the league.”
Hmmm….if so, why did Neil not use one of the`smallest away team changing areas`to make his point ? Strange.
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I think I may know how it happened.
https://youtu.be/OXypyrutq_M
HH jg
PS to others, in advance….I know Neil Lennon is a highly intelligent man. This post is simply intended to raise a smile.
https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/art-and-design/apes-psychos-alcos-how-british-cartoonists-depict-the-irish-1.3149409
seething anger and hopefully better performances
BOURNESOUPRECIPE…
I hope you’re well
Likewise! :)
It’s all water under the bridge and a sad episode whilst we wait for ‘the bored’ to move us into the new era. I assume it was really obvious that Neil Lennon couldn’t recover the position we’re in, regardless of how much criticism, conspiracy or self flaggelation Dubai yields.
It’s a shame – and it’s hard to pinpoint why it hasn’t worked. I do think that managers have three eras – The up and coming, the peak and the downslide. Managers on the downslide rarely recapture what makes them special, and maybe Neil has grown tired of firefighting in all manner of directions. Maybe he’s stopped learning. Who knows – it *is* important to acknowledge that it’s not working – but that shouldn’t poison his history, or even all of his current tenure. Few managers avoid the sack at clubs so it’s just reflecting the reality that visits all managers eventually.
I could just as well post his footballing highlights, fat lot of good it does for the people that were hell bent on saying he was the wrong appointment from the start,
It’s a shame. Like I say, I was 100% in the ‘It must be Lenny’ camp. I guess though that’s caveated by ‘and must chose his own appointments’ etc – although acting on those rumours as reality is also dangerously misleading. When Rodgers left, Lenny stepped in and was a safe hand on the tiller. If anything this year has been cautionary tale about arrogance and entitlement.
I can’t lie and say that bit of me is relieved – I had ongoing concerns about how the huns would react, especially as the pressure and atmosphere up till now has been poisonous. The entitlement of some Celtic fans too has led me to think it might just not be worth it. A reset and restart might be better all round. Regardless of ‘the 10’ I’ll still wake up as mad a Celtic fan as I was before, so if it leeches the boil maybe some good can come of it, despite the disappointment. That’s twice now in my life we’ve been also men and failed at making history (the UEFA cup run and being at the final being the first)… but the sun rose and I still love Celtic. Celtic have still made me happy, so the 10 makes no real odds.
Lenny’s achievements are incredible. I hope a large section of our fan base remembers that – in 5 years he’ll be a stick on as a legend. When we tell our kids about Lenny? It’s guaranteed. They won’t remember Dubai, they won’t remember his ignominious decline or sacking. They’re know what we tell them, and his legend will grow.
I think like many others do, certain legacy stalwarts downed tools, and we bought poorly.
I reckon it’s beyond doubt he’s lost the dressing room. It’s a shame, but it happens – and Lenny does appear to have the same streak Souness did for falling out with people (albeit without the insufferable arrogance or fondness for violence….. and without the ridiculous wig). The buys have been pretty much awful – but then again, maybe that’s not them but the environment they’ve came into. A number of players disappear under poor regimes only to rise when circumstances suit them. It’s a worry so many players want to leave – it leaves me thinking something is far wrong at the club. But, that’s maybe a discussion for another day.
Lennon should leave his role and Lennon is a legend are not mutually exclusive. I wish more people could see that. I also wish more people could accept that maybe he’s wrong sometimes and call it like it is.
Anyway – thank you for BOTH lists. I’ll maybe underline why we owe Lenny gratitude at the same time as recognising he should go.
/p
Pog
If you’re about….
Am I remembering correctly that you’ve been on a strict diet?
If so, can I ask what your daily calorie allowance was?
HH jg
BOURNESOUPRECIPE on 19TH JANUARY 2021 7:47 PM
👍
Talking of history, sad man that I am I looked up the article from Lenny’s departure last time round. I wanted to remind myself of how highly he was regarded by us all when he left, not just as a manager but as a Celtic man and person.
Some interesting posts in the comments section. He’s obviously a greatly changed man since then
Embramike at 3.27
Interesting comment from today’s Scottish Financial News …
The administrators of Rangers FC who were maliciously prosecuted have been paid more than £20 million, The National reports.
Mr Whitehouse and Mr Clark were appointed as administrators of Rangers in February 2012 and the club was liquidated in October that year, shortly before both left their positions.
Do they still have Lodge meetings to decide on retribution for non-believers ?
I have been tracking this saga which will likely cost the Scottish taxpayers somewhere around £50m of public money due to malicious prosecution of people who were doing their jobs but were “messing with the Gers”.
I have approached my MSP Rona McKay who is on the public petitions committee to get advice about having an enquiry into the conduct of the police and prosecution service.
I have been underwhelmed by the engagement so far but I must bide my time as nothing can be done until all of the legal actions are completed through the courts which could take another couple of years yet.
Murdo Fraser has called for an inquiry.
Nicola Sturgeon has indicated that she thinks that an inquiry would be appropriate.
We must hold her and the Scottish government to account for this matter which to me, goes straight to the heart of our society.
P8ddy
Good luck with the nipper, if he’s anything like his old man I think indoctrination might be a struggle :(
Meant :)
:)
MADMITCH
Firstly – it’s p8ddy, not p8. Any replies to p8 will also go ignored. I’m done playing you childish games.
Communist / SSP voter — middle class ego tripper more like.
You don’t know the first thing about me. That you base your logic on your perception of reality rather than reality says more about you then me, but have at it.
Why vote for real change when you can play the holier than thou card and wave on the sidelines.
No. I’d rather vote with my conscience and beliefs than sully them voting for things I don’t believe in. It’s not waving on the sidelines either – again, YOU DON’T KNOW ME! I’m comfortable with what I’ve achieved Re activism and representation.
Just because you can’t make a coherent argument, don’t compensate with ad hominem insults – they’re as transparent as they are pathetic.
You are NL biggest fan.
Pardon? Lennon should rightly be regarded both with fondness and as a legend. That doesn’t mean he’s infallible. Nor does it mean his every utterance is right. I like to think my other half loves me, but when I say something daft and she tears me to bits for it, I understand why.
Like I say, “I love Neil Lennon” and “Neil Lennon is wrong” are not mutually exclusive positions. Far from it. As said before, he’s a legend, but he’s not infallible. Why is that a problem for you to understand or accept?
nit pick away and show how intelligent you are — allegedly
Thank you! I say that because as of now, you’re the only one that’s alleged I’m intelligent. Whatever ego I have is surpassed only by your esteem for me it appears.
On your more specific points – please, quote where I said I was Lennon’s no1 fan. Again, fantasy by you.
All those hours in the St Als 6th year common room being used tto good effect.
I’m sure you’re trying to be withering, but to be honest, you just sound like some bitter old guy shouting at clouds and hating education.
Looking verywhere to find new rhetorical sticks to beat him with.
No. Accepting his time is up and pointing out when he’s badly in the wrong. Neil Lennon is not the messiah, and you’re not helping him or Celtic when you say execrable stuff like that.
The only thing missing was the green ink.
Whoosh. Or in internet lingo: lol, wut?
If you are — as you claim — a NL supporter then I would hate to see his enemies.
Sometimes unpleasant truths are better than nice lies.
You were the future once …Or so you claimed.
Are you drunk?
/p
JAMESGANG on 19TH JANUARY 2021 7:59 PM
Before clicking on the link, I guessed what it would be . I wasn`t disappointed :-))
Hopefully have a pint with you before this year ends.
CELTIC40ME…
Good luck with the nipper, if he’s anything like his old man I think indoctrination might be a struggle :(
Hahahahaa…. I’m as firmly indoctrinated as they come! If I have one success as a father, it’ll be that the wee man will be Celtic fan through and through. We were going for new tyres for the car the other day and we’d taken a ball for a wee kick about as we waited. The fitter noticed and asked the wee man who his favourite player was. His answer ‘I don’t care as long as he’s Celtic’. So we’re on the way. :) The fitter was a Celtic fan too, so some good positive reinforcement. :)
And If I fail, his mum, his granny and his grampa will all step in. His Papa is a Liverpool fan, but we’ll put that as a second best position.
/p
NIKLA knew so she did. Bullying !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bullying is it.
Has anyone on here ever worked somewhere when there was no bullying taking place.
WEE ALEX a dog by any ones standard.
Hot Smoked
That is my earnest wish too.
Stay safe till then
HH jg
BROTHHHHARRRS AN SISSSSSTERS!!!!
Here’s Brother Tommy encouraging us all to be
FAITHFULLLLLL
THRUUUUANTHRUUUU!!!!!
https://youtu.be/cAZn7lFU7Sw
Mico marxist aka P8 / The Rover that got away …
Blow it out yer erse ya rocket.
NL does not deserve your level of patronising tripe.
You make me pine for SFTB — your pious / sanctimoneous drivel is that bad.
Celtic are currently 20/1 to win the League..
T W E N T Y
As a life long member of the Incorrigible Optimists Club I think I might just dip my toe in the water…
F**k The Begrudgers
ADI_DASSLER NOT FOR 2ND BEST on 19TH JANUARY 2021 7:17 PM
Did Sky not lie about us last year and refused to aplogise ?.
Cant remember exactly what the issue was.
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ADI,
Sly Sports ran a story, complete with fake translation from Spanish, that Morelos was racially abused by Celtic fans.
It was a lie.
Also a common tactic in the post-truth era.
If you are racist, retaliate first and accuse your victims of racism.
Hail hail
Keep The Faith
B2B @ 9.11
I am surprised that more has not been made of the comments from AW regarding CH in the Hibs game.
He really went for the young guy highlighting every mistake or piece of potentially poor judgement — well beyond what is the norm for such a player / well beyond what would be considered fair comment / well beyond what you would have expected of a summariser commenting on the game.
Total hit job — you have top wonder where his bitter / twisted agenda comes from?
SAINT STIVS on 19TH JANUARY 2021 6:21 PM
Danny Boyle
@deejaypb
17h
The image in reminiscent of the Victorian Punch Mag portrayals of thick Irish. For a man who has been subject to vile anti-Irish racism throughout his time in Scotland it is major editorial error at the very best. They’ll need to explain this. Its not even from today.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EsC4HwJXUAAtscs?format=jpg&name=4096×4096
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Cheers St Stivs.
This (IMHO) needs reposting.
Let this sink in.
Perpetuation of derogatory racial stereotypes is a form of racism.
Anti Irish racism on display.
For consumption by our modern, multi-cultural “Scorrish” market.
Matthew Lindsay wrote the article.
The editor who selected this image for publication is not named.
If you are buying, reading, clicking or pasting from the Herald ……….
…. you are funding this and keeping this alive.
Hail hail
Keep The Faith
MADMITCH…
Blow it out yer erse ya rocket.
I refer you to my earlier advice about Baird’s Bar.
NL does not deserve your level of patronising tripe.
NL? Who’s that? Nils Lofgren? Nat Lofthouse? Nigella Lawson? Be clear, please. Language wasn’t introduced as a tool for you to spread confusion. Who is NL?
You make me pine for SFTB — your pious / sanctimoneous drivel is that bad.
Oh dear, someone might think I’ve got under your skin! What’s wrong? Is calling out your attempt at channelling your inner Matt Damon/Good Will Hunting nonsense irritating? Or was it asking if you were drunk?
Regardless of reasons, you’re fairly incoherent and absolutely inconsequential. I’ll consider our dialog closed now. Feel free to continue on your quest to be the Celtic equivalent to Grandmaster Suck.
/p