An article on STV this week brought an old memory to mind. Days before Rangers’ goalkeeper, Chris Woods, was set to break a Scottish shut-out record across all competitions he gave a media interview when he said, “I just hope when we do lose a goal it is not an important one”.
Woods duly broke the record in a Scottish Cup tie against Hamilton Accies but that game, 27 years ago last week, is not remembered for the achievements of Chris Woods, it’s remembered for the fact that Accies left back, Adrian Sproat, found himself in nosebleed territory as he thrashed the only goal of the game into the net. Records count for nothing when you’re knocked out of the cup.
Fraser Forster has demonstrated remarkable concentration in recent games, when he has been called upon to make incredible saves after long periods of inactivity, but there are only so many times he’ll be able to pull off ‘save of the season’ acrobatics. We need to protect him and close down space well away from the Celtic goal.
These records may matter little if they are recalled through an embarrassing defeat but, just consider how often and fondly we refer to the 25 league game winning run in season 2003-04. History is always worth making.
Many thanks for everyone who for getting your seats confirmed for our CQteN St Patrick’s Day Dinner at the Kerrydale Suite on 14 March. As we stand there are a few non-confirmed but from tomorrow we’ll be able to allocate seats to the waiting list. Will let you know if we have space available soon.
The dinner is to raise funds to build a kitchen for Mary’s Meals at the Kholoni Primary School in Mchinji, Malawi, which has 1200 students and no catering facilities. Children often are faced with the choice of working to eat of going to school. With a kitchen in place this dependency will flip, those who go to school and get an education, will also get a meal – often their only reliable meal of the day.
Marys’ Meals perform minor miracles, feeding each child in Malawi for £7 per annum, while employing locals to work in the kitchens (which will be used as a classroom outside of meal times). It will be a remarkable legacy to mark the first 10 years we’ve had out of CQN.
Two new badges will launch at the CQteN dinner to record the decade and raise funds for the Malawi kitchen. The designs have now been approved (see here) and they are about to go into production. If you would like to register interest, email Celticrollercoaster on cqnbadges@gmail.com
If you would like to read the new CQN Magazine, GO HERE to read properly, and for FREE, the graphic below is just a taster.
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bonne nuit de moi. Hope you enjoy your meal when it comes.
Weeminger:
I’ve no idea what mineral it is, I only noticed it.
Alasdair Maclean,
Apologies if my memory is wonky but if it was indeed yourself who recommended ‘Night Falls on Ardnamurchan’ one dark night many moons ago – thanks very much, a rare treat:)
HH
Gohttp://www.onfieldsofgreen.com/the-end-of-rangers/od read
Oops didn’t work sorry, shame good read.
Ryecatcher
Don’t post much these days, but always scan the blog.
From what I can ascertain the general concensus on here
is that “you are not one of us” and fellow CQNer’s are entitled to
their opinion. Your posts & their content have been viewed as such
by many. You have debated and profoundly denied being a “bluenose”.
Leave it at that & move on. Continually raising the subject will only
compound other folk’s opinion!
No offence intended to you.
While in WHSmith yesterday the Feb 2014 issue of ‘Railway Modelling’caught my eye [ the top shelf was closed].
The featured layout was none other than sunny Bellgrove in the east end of Glasgow; not too difficult to reproduce in miniature but there may be a problem sourcing HO scale jaikies, junkies and buckfast fuelled neds [ +/- devil dugs] for that extra bit of realism.
BRTH… I think an administrator can make staff redundant ? Not sure what their terms of contract are with regards to that but I am sure the Dunfermline administrator made a whole lot of players redundant almost instantly.. If I misread your post then apologies in advance.
My boss is Peter Principle:
I don’t own any right under 24 inches either, but I’m just wondering what is buried under Ibrox.
Good mate of mine is a huge Pars man.
Him and his family shelled a lot of cash into the Pars to save them.
He reckons shankland is the man for tonight and fancy’s the pars to get a result.
Shankland FGS is 16/1 and Shankland FGS and 1-0 or 1-1 for the Pars is 115/1 with Skybet – Double Chance. If you fancy him to score and win 1-0 it’s 400/1. Surely worth a £1!
LB
So the hunpity dumpty thinks it’s unfair we got another final and it would have been fair if “thems” got two semis and a final!
He really has no shame! The way he thinks he can coerce fans, even his own…who are turning on him and are getting fed up watching dross every week.
His time is running out, as is the patience of the hunchbacks with his pathetic attempts to point score with the complying smsm. Tick Tock
sipsini
Where is the dignity???
LB
ryecatcher
22:47 on
6 February, 2014
Cracking little verse from a brilliant band.
Joe Strummer probably wrote it when he heard some Orcs were gonna buy shares in an IPO in the future……
A lotta people wont get not a supper tonight
A lotta people sitting down, by the light, ah!
A lotta people won’t get no a supper tonight
A lotta people a won’t get no a justice tonight
Remember, a kick it over
No one will guide you through Armagideon time
Read more: The Clash – Armagideon Time Lyrics | MetroLyrics
Willie Williams Mate, The Clash covered it, Reggae Classic from the ole Sound Dimension rhythm…
Sitting here in Gilschochill station on a rather lovely morning trying not to remember that 6 years ago I was on a flight to Auckland.
Ryecatcher
I’d accuse you of several things 1) Being wrong about Fergus 2) being wrong about Jazz ) being, like me, an incorrigible old Clash fan. But not a Hun! Take care of BMCUWP if you ever get to meet him for a shandy.
Jimbo67 supporting Oscar Knox
Was interested to note stats against Sheep in Scottish cup yesterday.
Last time we played them at Celtic park was replay after JVOH scored
in last minute up at sheepdome. 2008 i think.
Crowd for replay was 33,000 and tkts were(have stubb in my desk)
Adults £15 and one child free with adult purchase.
kitalba
10:17 on 7 February, 2014
‘As per the Title Deeds for Ibrox Stadium – Land Register GLA210958 -does anybody know what is the mineral deposit under Ibrox which they don’t own the rights to?’
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Jim Kerr’s Rosary Beads?
Minerals, and the right to work them, would have been reserved as a matter of course by the feudal superior when the land was originally sold off in the 19th century. Common practice and of no particular significance.
the mineral deposit under Ibrox which they don’t own the rights to?’
Iron Pyrites.
Yes, at last, a mineral debate on CQN. Been waiting almost 10 yrs for that! :-)
The Battered Bunnet
10:44 on 7 February, 2014
Warning… stream of consciousness type er…stream
Interesting debate last night around the appropriateness of a plc structure, Fergus’ exit and related matters.
One of the positives from a plc structure is the transparent governance that it forces down on the club, something that would be (and indeed was) entirely absent in a private company.
Another is the ability of fans to participate meaningfully in the running of the club by holding directors to account. Celtic fans as a collective may not have the voting rights to determine decision making, but as the Res 12 boys have shown, using the plc rule book is a valid and effective aid to accountability. It’s taken 20 years to figure it out, but right enough, there’s a book, it’s full of rules, and shareholders are able to use it to good ends.
Lots of talk in recent days about a forum or collective platform to facilitate Celtic fans to engage with the board, but I will note three points:
1) The Celtic support is not a united entity. Beyond our support for the club, our views on any and all issues are disparate. Despite a host of Supporters’ Clubs, local and national Associations, the Trust, ad hoc groups, singing sections and heck, even gazeboeans, each group has differences with the next, the individual members of each group have differences between them, the vast majority of fans are members of no group at all, and consensus is impossible to determine. Whether songs, football ambition, finance, catering, left backs or what have you. We can’t even have a clouds debate without precipitating an argument. In short, attempts to establish a forum that represents the rainbow of opinion in the Celtic support is futile beyond that it already exists in the support as a whole.
2) Celtic is open. The directors and management are not locked away, they are accessible to supporters and welcoming (mostly) of ideas and challenges. Go for it.
3) Use the AGM. Attend. Speak. Ask your question. Make your point.
It’s worthwhile noting that the plc model is the most flexible in terms of adapting to financial and business aspects. When new capital is required, it can be obtained efficiently. Say for example a European regional league was established, Celtic plc would be able to fund the necessary investment via sale of new shares. In this and many other examples, the plc model works well.
Where the plc model presents a risk is in the relatively easy manner in which ‘rogues’ or day I say ‘spivs’ can obtain a controlling share. A number of football clubs have regretted their exposure to this risk, perhaps Man Utd being the next. While we have been rather lucky that Dermot Desmond is essentially a benign influence, that may not be the case when Dermot inevitably goes. Anyone fancy a hedge fund or private equity firm with a controlling interest? Major risk.
For Celtic, we ought to consider the feasibility of placing a cap on the number of shares an individual can hold, let’s say 10%. In this way, no individual can exert effective control, and decision making is necessarily more consensual, or democratic if you like. While a plc model is by no means a panacea for the many challenges facing a football club, it does have some advantages for clubs of sufficient stature, and adapting the model to better suit our circumstances and values is a more achievable objective than any other I’ve seen to date.
Steaming stream…
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Great post. I had some similar thoughts last night about the pros and cons of a PLC that I was about to post before the blog went moobs up. You “stream” above captures all of that and more.
Brogan Rogan Trevino and Hogan
Like others on here, I wasn’t able to post a response to you late last night, in part because I never read your’s until after Question Time, and also that, by the time I was ready to post, CQN was offline. Did try and save it, (first time ever on that score), and managed only to save the first sentence. Cannot quite remember the rest of it, bit like a great poet who , mentally creates his greatest work shortly before going to bed, and thinks, ‘I’ll write that out first thing in the morning’. That great poet that no one has ever heard of!
Something to the effect that I tend to agree with you that we cannot ‘own’ Celtic Football Club, only share and support it. For some, but not all, that involves possessing share certificates, some more than others. Now, I am not going to go down the route, favoured by others, that the club is somehow separate from the way it is organised, no we are simultaneously the club, the team, the support and the PLC. All wrapped up in one. I’d like to think that all of us are Guardians of what began back in November 1887, now and in the future, a future that Fergus, along with wider support, helped to guarantee.
livibhoy – god bless wee oscar
They haven’t had any dignity the day they decided to be a sectarian club!
If is as reported, VAT returns are not forthcoming today, I trust HMRC will act immediately to prevent tax payers being ripped off by the current club playing out of Ibrox.
starry plough is Neil Lennon
11:00 on 7 February, 2014
ryecatcher
22:47 on
6 February, 2014
Cracking little verse from a brilliant band.
Joe Strummer probably wrote it when he heard some Orcs were gonna buy shares in an IPO in the future……
A lotta people wont get not a supper tonight
A lotta people sitting down, by the light, ah!
A lotta people won’t get no a supper tonight
A lotta people a won’t get no a justice tonight
Remember, a kick it over
No one will guide you through Armagideon time
Read more: The Clash – Armagideon Time Lyrics | MetroLyrics
Willie Williams Mate, The Clash covered it, Reggae Classic from the ole Sound Dimension rhythm…
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As was “Wrong ‘Em Boyo” – I posted a link to the original classic by The Rulers last night. Love The Clash though – Sandinista! my fave…
DBBIA,
Iron Pyrites? That wins the “Best Chemistry Joke On CQN” award. Mind you, there have probably not been too many others …
since the day…
There are NO minerals under Ibrox!
Just animals and vegetables.
HH!!
NatKnow – Supporting Wee Oscar
They loved their Reggae did the Clash, it was through the punk covers and the Frontline comps I came to love Reggae in the Shire!!
Great times..
Brockwell Park Brixton!
ernie lynch:
I know it is of no significance but is not to say I can’t be curious as to what the minerals are, and ask the question.
Jimbo67
You must have past mines on the way to gilshy station….but I bet wee laki’s rolls are sold out by now:)
HH
Gordon_J backing Neil Lennon
11:10 on 7 February, 2014
DBBIA,
Iron Pyrites? That wins the “Best Chemistry Joke On CQN” award. Mind you, there have probably not been too many others …
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Better get the speech ready for CQteN, DBBIA!
Sure they not Norn Iron Pyrites? :-)
Gordon J -almost as good as ‘sodium fluoride is NaF’
Tallybhoy
Crucifixes and rosary beads!
LB
Nat Know- I’ll try to be less saline than wee Gwyneth.
Possible – future – CQN awards?
‘Monthly award for the most incorrect uses of there and their.’
Pedantic coat on.
HH!!
starry plough is Neil Lennon
11:12 on 7 February, 2014
NatKnow – Supporting Wee Oscar
They loved their Reggae did the Clash, it was through the punk covers and the Frontline comps I came to love Reggae in the Shire!!
Great times..
Brockwell Park Brixton!
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Same here mate. Along with all the 2-Tone stuff that came along. I had a cousin who was a massive punk fan. The Clash reggae stuff had a lasting effect.
The same cannot be said for “Stations of the Crass”. I do however confess to owning a copy of the boxed set “Christ – The Album”. :-)
There are of course different opinions on Fergus McCann, he was not perfect, but who is ?At the time, I despaired at the direction Celtic Football Club were going, I made a banner proclaiming DON’T SACK THE BOARD, JAIL THEM. because I despised the board for what they had done, and that they were running the club into the ground. I bought shares as I believed in Fergus, so love him or don’t love him, its up to you, I believe he was a major figure in the history of Celtic Football Club.
Fergus Slayed The Blues.
I am festering away, angry and frustrated,
I know they don’t care
how we feel about our team,
sacrosanct, to the extreme,
well, they think that.
Let them eat cake , they may say,
the malcontents won’t have their way,
Nepotism, gave them the privilege
but they abuse it,
and use it, voraciously,
for their own needs.
Their contempt to Jock Stein
a great man,
the best that’s ever been
our manager.
So what chance had we, the fans,
the lifeblood of the club,
as Jock called us.
I know they don’t care
how we feel.
My Lord and my God,
I make an appeal.
And it happened, it was for real.
Our saviour, for all to see,
but, for this wee guy in a bunnet
where would we be.
Bankrupt.
Ridiculed by media, and even
so called Celtic fans,
but Fergus McCann was the wan
ahead of his time, as a businessman.
Prudent, but prominent in our history
without the recognition he deserved.
He answered our prayers and did
what he said he would do, and more.
Grants, Whites, and Kellys, and their puppets
shown the door,
and no before,
time.
So let us rejoice, let us rejoice
and be glad in it, to give thanks,
Fergus McCann is The Man,
for me, and many others,
Fergus Slayed The Blues.
Pedants don’t wear coats.
They wear gowns.
Tallybhoy
11:11 on 7 February, 2014
There are NO minerals under Ibrox!
Just animals and vegetables.
HH!!
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Class!
Nobody watching Cameron?