Adrian Sproat and shutout records

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An article on STV this week brought an old memory to mind.  Days before Rangers’ goalkeeper, Chris Woods, was set to break a Scottish shut-out record across all competitions he gave a media interview when he said, “I just hope when we do lose a goal it is not an important one”.

Woods duly broke the record in a Scottish Cup tie against Hamilton Accies but that game, 27 years ago last week, is not remembered for the achievements of Chris Woods, it’s remembered for the fact that Accies left back, Adrian Sproat, found himself in nosebleed territory as he thrashed the only goal of the game into the net.  Records count for nothing when you’re knocked out of the cup.

Fraser Forster has demonstrated remarkable concentration in recent games, when he has been called upon to make incredible saves after long periods of inactivity, but there are only so many times he’ll be able to pull off ‘save of the season’ acrobatics.  We need to protect him and close down space well away from the Celtic goal.

These records may matter little if they are recalled through an embarrassing defeat but, just consider how often and fondly we refer to the 25 league game winning run in season 2003-04.  History is always worth making.

Many thanks for everyone who for getting your seats confirmed for our CQteN St Patrick’s Day Dinner at the Kerrydale Suite on 14 March.  As we stand there are a few non-confirmed but from tomorrow we’ll be able to allocate seats to the waiting list.  Will let you know if we have space available soon.

The dinner is to raise funds to build a kitchen for Mary’s Meals at the Kholoni Primary School in Mchinji, Malawi, which has 1200 students and no catering facilities.  Children often are faced with the choice of working to eat of going to school.  With a kitchen in place this dependency will flip, those who go to school and get an education, will also get a meal – often their only reliable meal of the day.

Marys’ Meals perform minor miracles, feeding each child in Malawi for £7 per annum, while employing locals to work in the kitchens (which will be used as a classroom outside of meal times).  It will be a remarkable legacy to mark the first 10 years we’ve had out of CQN.

Two new badges will launch at the CQteN dinner to record the decade and raise funds for the Malawi kitchen.  The designs have now been approved (see here) and they are about to go into production.  If you would like to register interest, email Celticrollercoaster on cqnbadges@gmail.com

If you would like to read the new CQN Magazine, GO HERE to read properly, and for FREE, the graphic below is just a taster.
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  1. macjay1 for Neil Lennon on

    setting free the bears supports Res. 12 & Oscar Knox

     

    23:16 on

     

    6 February, 2014

     

    macjay

     

     

    I thought you were querying whether I was delusional.

     

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    You have to read the smiley too.:-)

  2. Ryecatcher, I disagree with you over Fergus. But regardless of our differing opinions, can I point out one error in your view. David Low who, as you’ll know, was instrumental in bringing Fergus to the party, has recently corrected the popular view that John Keane deposited cash with Bank of Scotland to prevent foreclosure. According to David, who was there, Fergus did this and John Keane subsequently played a heoric role in supporting the necessary funding post-crisis. If this was how it played out, and I do believe David Low, perhaps it will soften your view on Fergus. In my view, regardless of what he made out of it, he saved our club from a worse fate than befell you know who!

  3. night night bhoys (from a hun free sofa)

     

     

    used to wish they’d get it over with as soon as possible but the zombie story is like a reliable old friend – always there to make you fell good

     

     

    anyway, leave you with a great song , only it needs to change 1 lyric – lennie

     

     

    lennie, the most beautiful sound I’ve ever heard, lennie lennie lennie lennie, all the beautiful sounds in a single word, lennie, lennie , lennie

     

     

    I nearly shook hands with Lennie outside CP last season when the meteam bus came in only a fan beside me kept shouting at him (and in me ear’ole) so he stopped just as he got to us.

     

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpdB6CN7jww

  4. NatKnow – Supporting Wee Oscar

     

     

    23:01 on 6 February, 2014

     

     

    young reds low in tannin, most good curry houses carry light beers designed for curry munching.

     

     

    night

  5. Watching Question time. How come everyone in the room can resist the temptation to slap David Starkey? Don’t think I could do it. In all the times I’ve watched the programme I’ve never heard a panellist warned for insulting an audience member.

     

     

    Phew, managed to get through that without swearing about the wee $#@!/

  6. I got an email earlier from Jeanette Findlay, just to say thanks for the article in the CQN Magazine.

     

     

    ChuffedCSC

     

     

    This issue has not gone away, a follow up after the appeals and next trials may well be needed.

  7. Marrakesh Express on

    Oldco and Newco managers, past and present, have been afforded a luxury not even the likes of Fergie and Wenger were given. Since the redtops (lead by The Sun) went gutter press mid seventies, a long list of prominent bosses have been targetted, ridiculed, lampooned, villified and crucified. All to sell papers. McLeod, Taylor, Keegan, Vogts and McLaren, all slaughtered for failure, Fergie and Wenger for saying the wrong things.

     

    No one escapes the flak in England.

     

    McCoist has managed to outdo his mentor Smith in terms of press protection. His dangerous rants and irresponsible comments would fill the front and back pages if questioned.

     

    One line from PL about Rory Bremner made news for a fortnight.

     

    McCoist continually embarrasses himself and dare I say his support, while at the same time giving two fingers to the SFA and every Scottish club. His sly digs are aimed at getting a response. He is a desperate man, itching for trouble as some sort of way out of his hell. And still he remains the cheeky chappy darling of the media.

  8. Brogan Rogan Trevino and Hogan supports Oscar Knox, MacKenzie Furniss and anyone else who fights Neuroblastoma on

    Natknow

     

     

    To be clear, the decision to go down the PLC route is my only reservation about Fergus.

     

     

    Beyond that, the man is without reproach in terms of his management of the club– and let me be clear in saying that when someone manages any organisation you will not always agree with their decisions on an individual basis — but that does not mean that you think they are not good managers overall.

     

     

    Fergus, was great for Celtic — absolutely brilliant– and more important NECESSARY and ABSOLUTELY VITAL at the time.

     

     

    I never agreed with him being booed and in the last annual you will read my comments on that.

     

     

    However, I have grave concerns about the PLC exit route.

     

     

    Celtic Mac for example seems to confuse my comments as being unwilling to step forward and save the club in 1994 etc — and with respect to you Celtic Mac that is neither what or when I was talking about.

     

     

    McCann appeared during those dark days and proffered finance and guarantees that got him 51% of the Celtic Football and Athletic Club Ltd.

     

     

    Later, using his controlling interest in that company, he floated it on the stock market and at the time of the flotation and his departure Individual Celtic fans owned approximately 63% of the shareholding.

     

     

    That is no longer the case, and as far as I know, individual Celtic fans now own something like 30% of the shareholding with the balance being held by a few wealthy individuals.

     

     

    Dermot Desmond initially invested £4Million pounds, but has since underwritten a number of further share issues with the result that he is now openly described as the majority shareholder– even although the majority of his shares are actually held by one of hos investment companies— International Investment and Underwriting of Dublin.

     

     

    The Celtic Trust Website will tell you that of the 29,000 or so individual shareholders in Celtic, approximately 2,000 bother to vote ( by proxy, post or otherwise ) at any AGM and it is clear that the “fans” neither control the majority shareholding or have the biggest say in the club — as was initially promised by Fergus.

     

     

    My point is that when it came to the share placement, Fergus did not– indeed could not — deliver what he was saying namely that by going down his chosen exit route, the club or PLC would always remain in control of the ordinary fan.

     

     

    Perhaps that is what he intended– but alas that was not what has subsequently happened.

     

     

    Further, company law states that when there is a bid for a certain proportion of the shares in a company, that offer has to be extended to the remaining majority and it was in this way that the Glazers bought Manchester United after a long battle– and it should be remembered that one of those who sold to the Glazers was Dermot– as was his right.

     

     

    My concern is that the PLC route is not one which keeps Celtic perpetually within the Celtic family — by the way this is a topic that Auldheid and I discussed back when Moses was a nipper– and both of us preferred a membership scheme with subscriptions in return for membership as opposed to cash for shares.

     

     

    But hey that is a personal choice and opinion on my part.

     

     

    My fear is that by becoming a PLC Celtic were always subject to the vagaries of the stock exchange and the share sale mechanism and I genuinely think that COULD be a disaster going forward.

     

     

    Celtic Mac — going back to the hour of need, whilst I have no need to answer your comment I think I should because at the time I donated a sum of money– not enough to buy the club obviously — to the campaign to bring about change and to help rest control of the club from the then owners.

     

     

    Fergus, quite rightly, invested money in return for shares and a say —- I gave my money and in return sought precisely nothing in return other than the hope of seeing someone like Fergus McCann running the the football club.

     

     

    My family bought shares — I did not because I didn’t and to an extent still don’t believe in the PLC mentality.

     

     

    I also didn’t buy shares in BT, The water or any of the other public offerings from Margaret Thatchers Government — or the sale of the TSB or any of the building societies or banks.

     

     

    Other than my own wee business I own shares in nothing as it is just not my bag.

     

     

    And it is for that reason I cannot share unending admiration of Fergus.He deserves huge praise, but his exit strategy was such that the wee man in the street does not have the say that Fergus pitched when he sold the club on the stockmarket– and further down the line I genuinely think that may well be a problem!

  9. For those of you espousing fergus. He got his money. He did exactly what he said he was. He was a success. But he also let us down in his last year due to his lack of ambition and short term focus on his profit. It is ever thus at celtic.

     

     

    So stop the lionisation of fergus please.

  10. Rubicon

     

     

    Must ask JK (the next time I see him) and the others who were at the bank (that fateful day) – if they witnessed an apparition re: the deposit!

  11. Celticrollercoaster supports the Dambhoys on

    Doc

     

     

    Must be the down to the dodgy designer:-)

     

     

    HH

     

     

    CRC

  12. 67Heaven ... I am Neil Lennon, supporting WEE OSCAR..!!.. Ibrox belongs to the creditors on

    rubicon

     

     

    23:28 on 6 February, 2014

     

     

    Fergus McCann saved Celtic, and like any other businessman, made his money in the process…..end of story……

     

     

    I was in despair…..

     

    then Fergus was there…..

     

    And forced SDM, to tumble down the marble stair…..

     

     

    What’s not to like….?

  13. Praecepta,

     

    I wasn’t there so I don’t know. Fergus, David Low and JK were, so they will know.

     

    My admiration for John is only surpassed by my gratitude to Fergus.

  14. 67Heaven ... I am Neil Lennon, supporting WEE OSCAR..!!.. Ibrox belongs to the creditors on

    neganon2

     

     

    23:32 on 6 February, 2014

     

     

    ……..dooooooh

  15. neganon2,

     

    You’re right, the Wee Man wasn’t perfect. Who is? But who else was there in our hour of greatest need? Take the wider view.

  16. Celticrollercoaster supports the Dambhoys on

    Doc

     

     

    U keep clutching to those straws:-)

     

     

    Teamwork of course, ha ha.

     

     

    3rd edition badges are class. I predict we will run out by end of next week. Shame for those that do not order in time.

     

     

    HH

     

     

    CRC

     

    cqnbadges@gmail.com

  17. Praecepta,

     

    Well, that’s your opinion. I don’t know and haven’t claimed that I do. I’ve simply stated what I recall David Low saying. But as you know it was a fact, I assume you were there.

  18. Brogan Rogan Trevino and Hogan supports Oscar Knox, MacKenzie Furniss and anyone else who fights Neuroblastoma on

    Rubicon

     

     

    Re Johnn Keane — if my memory serves me correctly, the Board of Celtic PLC attributed the deposit of £1M to Keane and Keane alone at an AGM a couple of years back.

     

     

    I think that is correct.

     

     

    There are also those who will tell you that Fergus was backed by money that came from significant others.

     

     

    That does not make his importance any less worthy or his stewardship any less inspired.

  19. eddieinkirkmichael on

    Doc is Neil Lennon

     

     

    23:33 on

     

     

    I put myself down for 1 and didn’t specify which. Could you make it 1 of each.

  20. macjay1 for Neil Lennon on

    Is it an exaggeration to say:

     

    No Fergus,no Celtic.

     

     

    If not,then that`s bigger than big Jock.

     

     

    Affoot.

  21. Big cup winners

     

     

    I took Moonbeams advice on the emotional aspects of blogging but after reading through my submissions and consulting some trusted friends I

     

    was advised that the only thing I got wrong was I shouldn’t have capitalised national, as in British national and unionist.

     

    I was personally insulted by Green man and I responded by asking him to not talk crap but actually but forward a case to Justify a No vote.

     

    I may have missed a response but I have not seen one. In fact there has never, to my knowledge, a case, apart from insults and scaremongering, put forward. Of course catholic schools crop up regular but these people are naive. It states categorically that catholic schools will be retained. All this info is readily available if one can be bothered looking for it.

     

    It is also naive in the extreme to think

     

    that any political party would even contemplate getting rid of catholic schools, as there demise would be swift.

     

    Take a walk about Glasgow and look

     

    at the brass plaques and names outside the offices of the Lawyers, Accountants and Surveyors: Tim names and there is no reason for us Tims to feel insecure.

     

    If you feel up to it I would be delighted for you to but forward a reasoned argument for voting No and I can assure you I will give your submission

     

    my utmost respect.

     

    I enjoy your competition on a Friday night but I’m no very good at it and that’s why I don’t enter.