A meaningless win is always better than a meaningless defeat, but in the larger scheme of things, yesterday’s game against Liverpool is no more significant than last month’s games in Germany. They are about building fitness and, if necessary, trying new things.
Amido Balde was the winner yesterday. Some were already writing the player off, not because of any performance inadequacy, but because he was not being deployed competitively. Victor Wanyama joined two years ago but spent the first six months of this stay warming the bench with Brown, Ledley and Kayal ahead of him.
Five months ago Rangers International FC PLC released their interim accounts, noting that their recurring operating expenses of £2.371m, were £1m per month more than their income.
£1m per month!! To a club which has no bank borrowing facility! Yet the alarm bells didn’t ring everywhere. Roll on five months, 34,000 fans have been separated from their cash in return for season tickets, and now the alarms are ringing all over the place, not just the Celtic online media.
This is not news to anyone reading Celtic Quick News but in life, it’s often not so much the message as the messenger that’s significant. That the mainstream media feel it’s appropriate to ‘tell it as it is’ about Rangers International’s finances, is a measure of how acute the situation is.
As we’ve been saying here for years, it takes close to £20m p.a., before you employ a footballer or coach, to run a football club which can accommodate circa 40,000 spectators on a regular basis. Add your football budget onto that £20m and you have an idea of the cash needed to be a ‘top’ Scottish club.
Rangers International’s interim revenue for seven months was £9.5m which annualised up would be £16.3m. There is a huge structural gap which no one has been able to even remotely suggest a way to bridge.
Now Dave King has told the Herald what we’ve been saying for a while, “Celtic are building reserves by selling top players that they won’t need until Rangers are back (sic) competing with them. The way our finances are being run we could end up with a gap that is too large to bridge.”
It takes hundreds of employees to run a football club at a busy Ibrox Stadium. There are policing, rates, utility, insurance and stewarding costs, which you can’t do anything about. Even if they double income, they’re still going to be left with a fraction of Celtic’s football budget.
As Dave King suggests, this is not a short and medium term problem, the gap is already too large to bridge. King is wrong on one factor, Celtic will not store reserves awaiting a challenge from Rangers International (or a successor club), they are managing player assets as part of an on-going Champions League development strategy.
The other lot are finished, I tells ya’, finished! This is Private Fraser doing his Dave King impersonation:
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What is the stars
Going out soon,any chance you could answer my question .Thanks.
leftclicktic
19:05 on 11 August, 2013
Don’t think that JP Taylor is that much of a new boy speak to some of the Supporters who attended every game in the lead up to Seville 2003 then ended up not getting a ticket for the final. I always wondered from the following interview if the 3 tickets he held in his possession in Seville were intended for season ticketholders
http://thefrontofthebus.blogspot.co.uk/2011/03/interview-with-john-paul-taylor.html
Mickeybhoy1888
I thought you had chucked it due to playing yesterdays game instead of an SPFL game ?
HH
goldstar10
19:24 on 11 August, 2013
Played it mate,most courses you walk off you a removing grass from your spikes at Campsie it’s sheeps jobbies
Saint Stivs
How could you forget Charlie Gallagher (Gorbals Division)? :-))
Watching our game on Liverpool TV must be the youngest Celtic team I’ve seen playing a senior game. Well done those bhoys….
Did anything emerge from Sevco’s press conference at 11:55am?
My son was watching the Embra derby today. Said it was dross and that he could get a game with them. I told him it would be no bother. When I told them they were on about 2000€ a month. He said maybe not then and it will explain why they are crap. He also asked would it not be better for all concerned to watch youth football. I told him with talk like that you can get a job on 2500€ a week working ať a lower level and thats just a bonus. Thats where the problem is says he. Why is that he asks seriously. I give him my look. Ah because of the huns says he.
HH
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sometimes it is better to say nothing rather than get involved :))
usuallyworksformecsc
prestonpans bhoys
Yip, and didn’t the enthusiasm of youth shine.
Phil MacGiollaBhain@Pmacgiollabhain15m
http://bellacaledonia.org.uk/2013/08/09/new-order/ …
A must read…
Paul
TBB
There is a clear area for spend and that is in capacity building behind the scenes.
Many of the complaints made about Celtic and the frustrations those not addressed cause , could be reduced considerably by having the proper structures and capacity in place to support staff at Celtic who have had to make do and mend in some cases whilst all income went on the park.
Some investment in jobs, systems and training would pay huge customer relations dividends.
The downside would be nothing to complain on CQN about but I think the time is ripe for a step back to look at customer relations strategy and how everyone can be involved in pulling or pushing the club in a direction everyone accepts makes sense in the environment in which Celtic find themselves.
If Celtic’s aim, as it was put to me, was to be a world class club, then how can everyone contribute to that aim, if indeed they subscribe to it?
That is the question that should be asked and then identify what can be done by the club as a whole and in unison with supporters, many of whom already provide a service to each other, to achieve that aim.
For example when folk provide details on a purchase and give address, ask if they have any objection to their address being shared with other supporters in the same area or local CSC to help arrange transport to games. Then arrange a meeting with everyone in a locality and let the Celtic sense of fellowship takeover.
There is so much the club and supporters could do together to enhance what the support can do for each other but it requires the capacity centrally to make it happen.
TheOriginalSadiesBhoy
19:42 on
11 August, 2013
Saint Stivs
How could you forget Charlie Gallagher (Gorbals Division)? :-))
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awe_naw_no_annoni_oan_anaw_noo
19:36 on 11 August, 2013
Season ticket purchased before the decision was made to play in Dublin
Not been to a gemme so far mate and from the very little I have seen so far I have not missed much. Already considering making a decision not to attend any away games or if we qualify to purchase a home ticket package for the 3 home Champions League games.
If you wish you can be first in the queue to take up my option of the 3 game home package probably at a cost of circa £210
j67
Can’t post the link for some reason, but google avg blocking sites, first few should solve your problem
That time of year again – fantasy football!
fantasy.premierleague.com
If you played last year, just redo your team for this year and you are able to renew yourself in the CQN league
If you are knew, 5 minute registration, set up your team and then use this code to join the league
Code to join this league: 383718-99007
Classic league, at the end of the season, person with the most number of points wins!
Ill try to keep you all updated on CQN, was rubbish at it last year but will improve his year :)
Got around 60 already so far so should be an exciting season
HH
I don’t know where the meeja have got these stories from that Celtic are about to sign Alfred Finnbogason. I presume they have just noticed that he is being discussed favourably on a couple of Celtic forums and figured that spinning a yarn in that general direction might sell a few papers.
A quick look at NewsNow Heerenveen (search for Finnbogason) reveals a number of headlines indicating that:
Heerenveen want to keep Finnbogason
Heerenveen say that Finnbogason is not for sale
Finnbogason won’t be sold cheaply (in spite of Heerenveen’s financial problems)
However, I agree that it seems they will have to let him go if a seriously attractive offer is received.
Having seen his performance stats and seen quite a bit of footage, I reckon he would be a far more prolific scorer (and provider of goals for others) at Celtic than Hooper, McDonald, Venn of Hess, and anyone else since the KoK.
I personally would have no problem whatsoever with Celtic parting with £6M (if offers of £5M by others have already been refused) for this guy, on a contract that could see him become the club’s top earner if he continues his Heerenveen habit (of scoring half of the team’s goals) and exceeds 30 per season in the SPL and a few in the CL. After all, goals win games… victories seal trophies… and trophies raise our profile and bring in ££££.
Come on Celtic, sign him.
j67
19:19 on 11 August, 2013
I got the same with AVG. Was going to change anti virus but since I can get e tims on my phone or at work it seems a bit of a hassle.
Like e tims, read the diary every day.
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Try link again :- fantasy.premierleague.com/
Mickbhoy1888
So you’re rapping going to watch Celtic because the club agreed to play a friendly in Dublin.
Why?
Lets not get too carried away with yesterdays game. The performance was creditable, encouraging, etc.
I am getting a bit concerned about the lack of news concerning Joe Ledleys contract.
HH
I’m on this site almost daily and it’s entertainment for sure. Why though would a supposed Celtic fan post complete crap consistently with the sole aim of making other fans’ feel bad? Can only be the work of a hun.HH.;
Mickbhoy1888
Thanks for your feedback about possibility of spare tickets outside Pittodrie next Saturday-much appreciated.
Ticket Office are saying they are unlikely to have any spares after all tickets have been collected from the ballot tomorrow.
Aiming to go up without tickets but thought will keep trying on CQN to see if anyone has spares-cheers
tallybhoy
19:25 on 11 August, 2013
Every Man Utd home game 70 seater leaves George Square and picks up at Harry Hoods boozer in Uddingston . From what I am told a few members formerly held season tickets for Celtic Park
dettolandtheblackash
19:54 on 11 August, 2013
I’m trying to get some spares but if I get any extras I’ll post on here for you.
Mickeybhoy1888
Thanks very much for the nice considerate offer. I will mull it over. Since you have already bought the ST you should bite the bullet go and moan for another year and then také your principled stance starting next season replying why you are not renewing.
HH
Hamiltontim
Cheers mate- much appreciated. Will do the same for you. Hope you enjoyed Cliftonville
harryhoodsdugbitme
Just the one?
dettolandtheblackash
19:54 on 11 August, 2013
Come on here on the morning of the game mate and see what’s going. invariably you will have a poster from a supporters bus on the blog whose bus will have spare tickets. I managed to shift 5 spares from our bus by this method at Tynecastle last season. just get a phone number and arrange to meet in a local boozer
Mickbhoy- Thems the environmentally friendly course maintenance equipment.
BSR
Dog or bite ?
HH
tonyg
18:53 on 11 August, 2013
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great ideas 1 to 6
no way the smsm would big up these plans if celtic went for it
too sensible
lets just go for option 7
the casino
only fools could fail with this idea
a real way to build foundations for a well run footbal club/ holding company
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just caught up with the first half performance vs liverpool
balde 17 showed some class along with Mouyokolo 22
hope neil gets another 2 players in
4 months of non stop games
would rather be up near top of league
than have to chase another team in the run in
euro football till december
lets hope its the champions league route
the smsm will be sick if we make it again
hell mend them
jam67
St Pauli fans with banner this weekend.
‘Celtic give section 111 back to Green Brigade’
Fanad
What was your question
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Awe_Naw
Ha – be interested on your take (may have missed it) on the Section 111 fiasco *note noun*
If you can be bothered.
HH
OK answer is :
You can’t kill 2 birds with one stone !!!
Z
Oh yes you can !