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Ange, Martin and Brendan. Breaking new ground and good endings

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If you were around 20 years ago, you lived through an era when every time a manager in the English topflight came under pressure, we had to endure speculation Martin O’Neill would leave us to move back south.  We even had the Tory party leader urge Liverpool to appoint Martin!

These days., Ange Postecoglou’s name is sure to appear on betting lists whenever a vacancy appears.  The issue is also put into the public domain on occasions like yesterday, when Ange is back home in Australia and was asked about moving to England.

Ange responded correctly, “Celtic play in front of 60,000 people, we have the opportunity to win trophies and we’re in the Champions League. It’s a massive football club.”  I expect it would take an incredible offer to move him now (maybe something like Liverpool), specifically because he thinks – he thinks, not I think – he has only scratched the surface of what he could achieve at Celtic.

There is a glass ceiling here.  We are never going to win the Champions League without huge environment change.  It is possible, however, to go deeper into the tournament that we have gone before in its current guise.

Martin’s name will forever be sacred around these parts.  While Wim Jansen won the league for Celtic two years before he arrived, it was Martin who truly put us back on top.  Since then, we have never been the underdogs we were even at the start of this first season.  Five years into the job, Martin’s race was run at Celtic in every respect and he left for personal reasons, without an enticement from elsewhere.

There are two requirements necessary to achieve enduring legendary status: break new ground and when you leave, do so on good terms.  Four years ago, Brendan Rodgers had us eating out of his hand, but his abrupt departure means he would not be considered appropriate to make the Paradise Windfall Draw these days.

If Ange remains as successful as he is, someone will eventually put a £10m/yr offer in front of him and that will be the end of this era.  He has work to do to justify anything like that, as he said on Australian TV yesterday, “I keep saying to [the players]if they do what they do well then all this other stuff takes care of itself, whatever their ambitions or my ambitions may be.”  Within a couple of years, I believe Ange can do something very special here.

Martin is at Dalziel Park Hotel, Motherwell, this Saturday, 24 September, for a brunch, a Q&A and photos.  Tickets are £50 and available from Alan, 07970 716422.  Kick off 11:45am.

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  2. scullybhoy on

    Oh dear, poor wee Ernie is angry. Maybe he wants me to join his boycott of all things Celtic (sorry about the inane comment).

     

     

    Anyway, Tom yip the id’s were all correct.

  3. MadMitch on

    Stx2 @ 5.19

     

     

    Is that you trying to be funny again?

     

    If not — then you haven’t had much luck.

     

    Not good.

  5. Saint Stivs on

    My bhoy just got home from Shinty practice there, but it was called off because gaelic games are no longer allowed under this administration.

  7. Saint Stivs on

    MADMITCH on 22ND SEPTEMBER 2022 5:35 PM

     

    Stx2 @ 5.19

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Is that you trying to be funny again?

     

     

    —————–

     

     

    I get all the laughs I need from you trying to interpret a set of accounts.

     

     

    then again is that you mad-mitch or have you been hacked again or not at all.

  9. ernie lynch on

    I suppose if you aren’t the brightest, and aren’t overly concerned with facts or reality reality, you would tend to gravitate to somewhere you would find others like minded individuals where you’d feel at home and have a mutual support network to indulge your delusions and fantasy.

     

     

    It’s all a bit sad and pathetic, but perhaps it suits them and gives them a sense of purpose and belonging.

     

     

    Ho hum.

  10. MadMitch on

    Stx2 @ 5.37

     

     

    So you are still waiting for the party line to arrive before you offer comment?

     

     

    Sounds about right.

  12. The quiet man on

    Tom

     

    Don’t think there’s a plan to ditch the monarchy if / when Scotland get independence, which is a pity

  16. scullybhoy on

    I suppose if you aren’t the brightest, and aren’t overly concerned with facts or reality reality, you would tend to gravitate to somewhere you would find others like minded individuals where you’d feel at home and have a mutual support network to indulge your delusions and fantasy.

     

     

    It’s all a bit sad and pathetic, but perhaps it suits them and gives them a sense of purpose and belonging.

     

    Ho hum.

     

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

     

     

    Excellent piece of self-analysis.

     

     

    The lonely life of a keyboard warrior. I suppose you have to fill your time somehow whilst the rest of us are watching the famous ‘Glasgow’ Celtic play.

     

     

    https://i.pinimg.com/564x/9e/0a/3f/9e0a3fe2e0920b01b66046eeaf70b1a3.jpg

  18. Saint Stivs on

    Constitutional status

     

    The Free State from 1922 to 1937 was a constitutional monarchy over which the British monarch reigned (from 1927 with the title “King of Ireland”).

  22. DeniaBhoy on

    With reference to the original post by Paul, does no-one recall that in January 2003 Martin signed a pre-contract to join Leeds that summer? Risdale subsequently left in March and the deal fell through. As I recall, when the story broke in Risdale’s 2007 book, Martin claimed DD had not asked him to stay on beyond the three years so he was within his rights to talk to Leeds.

     

     

    Reading between the lines, Martin wanted the Leeds job (they had been in the CL semi finals in 2001) but probably was not aware that Leeds were about to go on a massive downward spiral due to the out-of-control spending. When Risdale left two months after persuading Martin to take the job, all bets were off. DD subsequently offered MoN a new deal.

  23. Tom McLaughlin on

    THE QUIET MAN

     

    Tom

     

    Don’t think there’s a plan to ditch the monarchy if / when Scotland get independence, which is a pity

     

     

    After independence, Scotland will no longer be part of the UK, even with the English monarch as head of state, until we become a republic.

  24. Rock Tree Bhoy on

    I think it’s obvious who has hijacked MadMitch’s user name, he really really doesn’t like him,

     

     

    Its well out of order, a definite punch below the belt,

     

     

    some people just take life too seriously.

  26. Art of War on

    Bitching blog today, teenage lassie-esque at times. Nah nah nah nah nah!

     

     

    Back in the day there was decent discussion on heliocentrism which caused trouble with Galileo Galilei and the Catholic Church.

     

     

    Galileo’s championing of Copernican heliocentrism (Earth rotating daily and revolving around the sun) was met with opposition from within the Catholic Church and from some astronomers. The matter was investigated by the Roman Inquisition in 1615, which concluded that heliocentrism was foolish, absurd, and heretical since it contradicted Holy Scripture.[10][11][12]

     

     

    Galileo later defended his views in Dialogue Concerning the Two Chief World Systems (1632), which appeared to attack Pope Urban VIII and thus alienated both the Pope and the Jesuits, who had both supported Galileo up until this point.[10] He was tried by the Inquisition, found “vehemently suspect of heresy”, and forced to recant. He spent the rest of his life under house arrest.[13][14] During this time, he wrote Two New Sciences (1638), primarily concerning kinematics and the strength of materials, summarizing work he had done around forty years earlier.[15]

  29. Celtic Mac on

    the quiet man

     

     

    The changes addressed discrimination against women, not the accession of Catholics to the throne, that is obviously still in place. As in the Monarch is the Head of the Church of England. You’re not on here advocating disestablishmentarianism are you?

  30. Saint Stivs on

    TOM MCLAUGHLIN on 22ND SEPTEMBER 2022 5:58 PM

     

    THE QUIET MAN

     

     

     

     

    Tom

     

     

     

     

    Don’t think there’s a plan to ditch the monarchy if / when Scotland get independence, which is a pity

     

     

     

     

     

     

    After independence, Scotland will no longer be part of the UK, even with the English monarch as head of state, until we become a republic.

     

     

     

    ————-

     

     

    If I understand it, he remains King Of Scotland, regardless of the Union being broken, that why he goes round those other countires and signs those wee bits of paper, before he gets to London.

  33. The quiet man on

    Celtic Mac

     

    Long overdue

     

    We’ll that word takes me back to my school days, antidisestablishmentarianism was it not the longest word in the dictionary.

  37. lionroars67 on

    CELTIC MAC on 22ND SEPTEMBER 2022 6:15 PM

     

     

    Own up who is in the twitchers cult, come on youse all know who you are

     

     

    Cultish bassas picking on Ernie

  42. ernie lynch on

    ROCK TREE BHOY on 22ND SEPTEMBER 2022 5:58 PM

     

    I think it’s obvious who has hijacked MadMitch’s user name, he really really doesn’t like him,

     

     

     

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    It’s not the first time it happened on here.

     

     

    Weird behaviour, but I don’t suppose that should come as a surprise.

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