Ange, Martin and Brendan. Breaking new ground and good endings

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If you were around 20 years ago, you lived through an era when every time a manager in the English topflight came under pressure, we had to endure speculation Martin O’Neill would leave us to move back south.  We even had the Tory party leader urge Liverpool to appoint Martin!

These days., Ange Postecoglou’s name is sure to appear on betting lists whenever a vacancy appears.  The issue is also put into the public domain on occasions like yesterday, when Ange is back home in Australia and was asked about moving to England.

Ange responded correctly, “Celtic play in front of 60,000 people, we have the opportunity to win trophies and we’re in the Champions League. It’s a massive football club.”  I expect it would take an incredible offer to move him now (maybe something like Liverpool), specifically because he thinks – he thinks, not I think – he has only scratched the surface of what he could achieve at Celtic.

There is a glass ceiling here.  We are never going to win the Champions League without huge environment change.  It is possible, however, to go deeper into the tournament that we have gone before in its current guise.

Martin’s name will forever be sacred around these parts.  While Wim Jansen won the league for Celtic two years before he arrived, it was Martin who truly put us back on top.  Since then, we have never been the underdogs we were even at the start of this first season.  Five years into the job, Martin’s race was run at Celtic in every respect and he left for personal reasons, without an enticement from elsewhere.

There are two requirements necessary to achieve enduring legendary status: break new ground and when you leave, do so on good terms.  Four years ago, Brendan Rodgers had us eating out of his hand, but his abrupt departure means he would not be considered appropriate to make the Paradise Windfall Draw these days.

If Ange remains as successful as he is, someone will eventually put a £10m/yr offer in front of him and that will be the end of this era.  He has work to do to justify anything like that, as he said on Australian TV yesterday, “I keep saying to [the players]if they do what they do well then all this other stuff takes care of itself, whatever their ambitions or my ambitions may be.”  Within a couple of years, I believe Ange can do something very special here.

Martin is at Dalziel Park Hotel, Motherwell, this Saturday, 24 September, for a brunch, a Q&A and photos.  Tickets are £50 and available from Alan, 07970 716422.  Kick off 11:45am.

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  1. National economics will impact the club.

     

    LT / KK are economic mentalists — the issue is when not if it all collapses.

  2. Celtic forever

     

     

    Talking to itself or one of its other self’s.

     

     

    It’s a troll

     

     

    Think we are meant to pretend it’s different people

     

     

    It’s like Jesse diets on fast show

     

     

    “Today I will be…..

     

     

    See you at a game sometime mate.:-)

     

     

    HH

  3. Toaty Trumper @ 10.25

     

     

    As an ex city bean counter I thought you would something to say about today’s economic shambles.

     

     

    Unfortunately you might actually agree with his nonsense.

     

    Silence would suggest that you are a true believer of FME 59 / FME159.

  4. HahahahahahaHahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

     

    HahahahahahaHahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

     

    HahahahahahaHahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

  5. An Tearmann

     

     

    Been stuck in Oslo since start of season except for holiday

     

    in Bali where I was lucky enough to find a Celtic pub to

     

    watch 4-0 drubbing of the huns so not used my season ticket

     

    yet this season

     

     

    Becoming an expensive hobby but always worth it

  6. The red wall voters must be delighted with today’s budget. Thank God the highest rate of income tax has been abolished and there is no limit on bankers’ bonuses.

  7. MCPHAIL BHOY

     

     

    To be fair you can’t gauge support or non-support for the monarchy based on what percentage of the population turned up at St Giles and/or Westminster to walk past the dead Queen. There will be many reasons why the most staunch royalist didn’t make the trip.

     

     

    It’s a bit like saying Mr & Mrs Smith of County Durham can be flagged as anti-monarchists because they didn’t make their way to London to pay homage.

  8. KK — comic book Lurch

     

    Over promoted plooky schoolboy playing with the credit card.

     

     

    Provi cheque economics.

  9. MADMITCH

     

    Silence would suggest that you are a true believer of FME 59 / FME159.

     

     

    Read my response to McMhail Bhoy above.

     

     

    🙈

  10. Economis affects our club.

     

     

    Remember much of taxation is devolved to the SG.

     

     

    So the planned increase in corporation tax is abolished and stays at 19%

     

     

    Would a Future Scottish Government emulate Ireland and cut corporation tax to 12.5% ?

     

     

    HH economicsandmoralitycsc

  11. KK — fighting against 12 years of Tory stagnation.

     

    He voted for it over the 12 years then claims it is the reason for current failures.

     

     

    He blames “Socialism” and yet still they clap.

  12. Celtic forever.

     

     

    I was in Oslo and Bergen many years ago many years ago and I think there is a Csc there,a long gone poster used to post here

     

    From living down south I know what it’s like to hunt down a place to watch a game,I hope you get them now fine.Make it known next time your home,will meet up at a game.

     

    :-)

     

    HH

  13. TOM MCLAUGHLIN

     

     

    Where did you get the 250,000 figure from? It would come in handy when I am offering my Point of View to the more Rabid Royalists.

  14. Back to Basics - Glass Half Full on

    Good morning all on here.

     

    (And I do mean ALL)

     

     

    From my read back of last night and this morning – part amused, part heavy sighing.

     

     

    blog needs Celtic matches in quick succession !!!

     

     

    Nature abhors a vacuum and all that.

     

     

    When the discourse starts to wander I assume many of us have our own “red flag” phrases to look out for.

     

     

    When they appear – scroll past mode kicks in.

     

     

    For what it is worth here are some of mine.

     

     

    Peter Lawwell (usually without the Peter)

     

    John McGinn

     

    Cult

     

    £49

     

    Steven Fletcher (!)

  15. GP @ 10.46

     

     

    Stealing bread out of the mouths of poor American children through tax avoidance / tax gymnastics.

     

     

    Duty free / VAT free shopping — that is where they are putting in their effort.

     

    Playing to the gallery.

  16. HahahahahahaHahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

     

    Stealing out of the mouths

     

     

    Bet you a madmitch was in there…wan o yeez

     

     

    HahahahahahaHahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

  17. TOM.

     

     

    Off to Kirriemuir for a Seniors` Golf match. I`ll check for a reply later.

     

    Cheerio for now.

  18. AT @ 10.49

     

     

    The Oslo gambit.

     

    Nothing about economics.

     

    Ex City bean counter — would suggest that you agree with KK.

  19. Back to Basics - Glass Half Full on

    MADMITCH on 23RD SEPTEMBER 2022 10:24 AM

     

    National economics will impact the club.

     

     

     

     

    LT / KK are economic mentalists — the issue is when not if it all collapses.

  20. Back to Basics - Glass Half Full on

    Madmitch – to your first statement – agree …

     

     

    … But will impact others so hopefully the impact is relative to our preparedness and overall financial health

     

     

    In which, compared to others, we should do “less worser” out of it.

     

     

    Totally with you on 2nd point.

     

     

    These nutters are cheerily taking us to national debt of 100% of GDP.

  21. For those struggling to find balance of any sort in the coverage of recent royal death I suggest private eye 23rd sept edition.

  22. IR35 changes.

     

    Pension contribution cap being looked at.

     

     

    Total focus on keeping their vote blocks happy.

     

    Nothing on keeping the tax base credible for a progressive society.

     

     

    Tax gymnastics at its worse.

     

    String vest economics — make holes everywhere and then look surprised when it rips / collapses.

     

     

    Interesting that there would appear to be a few CD’s / Christian Democrats still in the Tory party — not many and looking very lonely.

     

     

    LD’s looking to become credible / get the band back together.

     

    After Cleggie they should be a busted flush for 25 / 30 years.

  23. KK = Adrian Mole aged 45 and a quarter.

     

    He come across with a level of academic unworldliness that is off the scale.

     

     

    The debt angle is well beyond the Barber Boom of 1972.

     

    Casino desperation of the worst kind.

  24. The top rate of income tax in the UK will be 40%.

     

    The top rate of income tax in Scotland is 46%

     

     

    Well paid footballers will notice a huge difference.

     

     

    This does not help Celtic recruit and retain the players we all want to see.

     

     

    HH.

  25. Toaty Trumper @ 11.29

     

     

    Now you are playing the Aus angle.

     

    As an ex City bean counter — any thoughts on KK’s economics?

  26. Greenpinata on 23rd September 2022 11:26 am

     

     

    If you believe there are footballers in the UK paying even remotely near 45% tax rates you’re living a sheltered life. I remember years ago one of the newspapers did an analysis and found that John Terry paid around 20% tax. With these tories I’m sure you’ll be able to get that down to the teens.

  27. The actual % rates of tax mean absolutely nothing unless you are PAYE. How many people who are PAYE earn enough to pay highest rate tax? Virtually no one I would guess.

  28. There are things more important in the world than incredibly wealthy young men who get to play football for a living having to pay a tiny bit more in tax.

  29. Guys,

     

     

    INot for one minute am i defending well paid footballers paying a bit more tax.

     

    I am simply pointing out an additional obstacle that Celtic will face with such a huge differential.

     

     

    Timmy 7 noted,

     

     

    Surely your not advocating tax avoidance schemes. Like EBTs for example

     

     

    HH.

  30. GREENPINATA

     

    The top rate of income tax in the UK will be 40%.

     

    The top rate of income tax in Scotland is 46%

     

    Well paid footballers will notice a huge difference.

     

    This does not help Celtic recruit and retain the players we all want to see.

     

     

    Naive doesn’t even begin to cover such nonsense.

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