Another autumn, another messiah

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Another autumn, another messiah across the city. They arrive with the regularity of the nights drawing in. As the shops sell Halloween tat, sections of the media sell similar quality stories of a new beginning under a brilliant new manager.

Unlike the last guy at Newco, Philippe Clement at least has more than 19 games as a boss under his belt. He won the Belgian league with Genk, against better funded rivals, then won two titles with an exceptionally well -funded Brugge.  We can all look very messianic floating on a bed of euros.

He jumped ship to Monaco in January last year. Despite being able to pay players without having to worry about income tax (cough), Monaco were in deep financial trouble, pressing up against Uefa Financial Fair Play rules. Clement had to sell his best players, spending less than half of what he took in. Results crashed amid dressing room turmoil and he was sacked in June this year.  A football messiah without money is a very ordinary thing, find a French football fan and ask.

He has not worked in a value market, Europe’s top clubs search Belgium and France for talent, so don’t expect a string of great budget signings others have overlooked. Just as at Monaco, Newco are under Uefa supervision, unable to pay their way out of inadequacy.  Having sacked a manager in each of the last two years, Clement negotiated a lucrative three and a half year contract, so like Beale and van Bronckhorst, if/when the natives demand his sacrifice, he will at least have a bundle of cash to fall back on.

There is not enough information to know if he is an improvement on either of his two predecessors, but my biggest doubt about his abilities is that he has taken this job.  A poor squad, mostly under long-term contracts with very low resale value, insufficent money to spend, a scouting network which is already earmarked for disbandment and a support which has yet to realise their place in the foodchain.  He must have been without good options, but sure, the Saudis wanted him, just as Wolves wanted Beale!

Celtic’s position at the top of Scottish football did not come under threat yesterday, if anything, it was enhanced.

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  1. CLEMENT ?…..Ive NO IDEA whether he will be good or bad for Sevco ?

     

     

    What I do believe is that, whoever it was that got the job with Sevco, is gonny find it extremely difficult to turn Beales DUD Signings ( Apart from Butland and Cantwell), into suddenly become GOOD Players week in and week out.

     

     

    IF Celtic can win our next Two tough SPL away games in Edinburgh, it will minimise any so called ” New Manager Bounce” that Sevco MAY offer up ?

     

     

    This is all in Celtics hands, NO MATTER how bad or GOOD Sevco may suddenly become.

     

     

    P.S. I would LOVE to see The Green Brigade offering up ” We Love you LIEL” Message to Liel Abada asap ?

     

     

    Is that too much to hope for ?

     

     

    HH.

  2. TOM MCLAUGHLIN on 16TH OCTOBER 2023 12:25 PM

     

    A newly recruited football manager being ridiculed and dismissed by rival supporters before a ball is kicked.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    What short memories some people have.

     

    ……………….

     

     

    I AGREE.

     

    POR CIERTO just beat me to it, as I was about to Post about how ANGE was perceived when he first arrived at Celtic.

     

     

    HH.

  3. Todd Cantwell brands Chris Sutton an ‘attention seeker’ as Celtic legend asked ‘why are you so interested in Rangers’

     

    The two have locked horns again as their social media feud continues.

     

    ………………….

     

     

    ” POT, KETTLE and BLACK” from Cantwell.

     

    This is a Hun CHUMP who plays up to the Hun support as much as he can.

  4. Tom McLaughlin on

    TIMBHIY123

     

    Tom Mc Laughlin any messages to you on the construction sites on outside the stadium,

     

     

    Sorry mate but I’m not quite understanding your question. Can you elaborate?

  5. GARNGAD TO CROY on 16TH OCTOBER 2023 4:08 PM

     

     

    A more honest statement would be:

     

     

    Keep left-wing politics out of sport.

  6. CELTIC Ladies v HUN Wummin on SKY this Sunday with 12PM Kick Aff.

     

     

    Hearts v CELTIC on SKY this Sunday…Kick AFF 2.15.

     

     

    I will be having a Bet on a CELTIC Correct Score DOUBLE methinks.

     

     

    HH

  7. The Battered Bunnet on

    JJ

     

     

    “Keep branded politics out of sport” would be more like it.

     

     

    The charitable purposes of the Celtic Foundation are:

     

     

    H – Health

     

    E – Equality

     

    L – Learning

     

    P – Poverty

     

     

    You’ll see a variation on these themes across the ‘CSR’ activities of many sporting bodies.

     

     

    Patently, these topics are political and represent disputed ground in political dialogue virtually everywhere. Every time Celtic intervenes to alleviate suffering, tackle inequality, provide training and skills or donate funds to a cause, we act in the absence of government. It’s small politics, sure, but it’s our politics. It’s just that we don’t brand them.

     

     

    We don’t like our politics associated with others for fear of causing offence or being branded in turn.

     

     

    Or something.

  8. From the BBC Shortbread re new bloke

     

     

    The Belgian likes his sides to be possession based and to build from the back. He wants his teams to drag the opposition’s ‘press’ forward to create space in behind for quick attackers to exploit.

     

     

    ……

     

     

    Good luck with that in the SPL …. Huns have been chippy balls into the box from overlapping fullbacks for a long time now and their squad is sort of heated up for that ….. they’ll follow win , draw , lose cycle

  9. GLASSTWOTHIRDSFULL on 16TH OCTOBER 2023 12:51 PM

     

    At least we appear to have moved on from being scared of St Mirren…..

     

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    That made me really laugh. 😂😂😂👍

  10. AN DÚN on 16TH OCTOBER 2023 2:09 PM

     

     

    Its the most basic logic. If we’re serious about having European ambitions we need the. best domestic challenge possible.

  11. TOM McGLAUGHLAN ,Tom sorry for not explaining myself properly to you ,on here yesterday you mentioned coming out the Superstore at Celtic Park yesterday seeing construction workers wearing hard hats erecting Porto Cabins were the Celtic bus parks ,you mentioned maybe they are getting ready to start building the Hotel etc ,Tom I’m not the best at explaining myself so I hope this message is ok .

  12. Tom McLaughlin on

    TIMBHOY163

     

     

    Still not quite sure what the question is, but yes that was on Friday afternoon and there were 3 maybe 4 workers huts in place with a team of workmen, no more than half a dozen, on site. I have no idea what it was about but it was on the ground to the right of the pools office. My wife and I walked from the Gallowgate behind the Jock Stein stand and past the site before entering the superstore.

     

     

    Only later did it cross my mind that I should have asked one of the workmen what they were doing — in a nice way of course. With the workers huts it certainly looked like the start of a big job.

     

     

    Sorry I can’t be more helpful.

  13. English, French, Dutch and now Belgian managers as the Huguenots try to appease the mob as Paul points out

     

     

    Meanwhile in the 21st Century, Steve Clarke shows how to manage the rump which messrs Strachan ( to a lesser degree) and Alex McKeech left him. Oor Calum has more than played his part in this revival. Who knows how far Steve can go, Paul67 has already worked out the algorythms and sees the pathetic SFA infrastructure as his biggest hindrance. I still think it’s 16 against 16 though and anybody can win the world cup. As my captain and Cqner CelticFirst used to shout at us in the dressing room…

     

     

    ” You’ve got to want it! ”

     

     

    Nice setting and eulogy from her son at St Andrew’s in Glasgow today for Cathy Ferguson (nee Holding) Fergie’s late wife.

     

    Brendan Rodgers, David Beckham and others paid their respects. RIP lovely lady.

  14. I am reading again Sir Alex. after listening once again to the archie mcpherson interview with tom english.

     

     

    he recalled a particular story about celtuc supporters applauding the dutch support asd they came through milan airport.

     

     

    and also in the airport was Alex Ferguson, ex rangers player who paid his own way to milan.

     

     

    when asked why he was there he said something like to study big jock.

  15. I was kinda hoping that they would keep Alex Rae on…

     

    Now there’s a man who knows how to dig his own grave….

     

     

    Allegedly

  16. i dont want to be unkind, our to mock the afflicted, but the gers fans asked for voxpop snippets on reporting scotland, i dare anyone to watch it and not laugh.

  17. Back to Basics - Glass Half Full on

    EKBHOY @ 4:41 PM

     

     

    From the BBC Shortbread re new bloke

     

     

    The Belgian likes his sides to be possession based and to build from the back

     

     

    ——-

     

     

    Cheers Ekbhoy.

     

     

    Lol.

     

     

    Standard new manager bollocks.

     

     

    Like saying “I prefer to send urgent messages by text rather than second class post”

     

     

    Would be refreshing if a new coach being introduced said.

     

     

    “I’m a disciple of Charles Reep. Sod this possession lark. Lump it forward”

  18. Tom McLaughlin on

    SAINT STIVS

     

    TOM,

     

    no signasge on site ? or name of contractor ?

     

     

    There may have been. Can’t say I noticed. Didn’t look for signage. Just didn’t occur to me.

  19. Dismissing the Hun`s new Manager is wishful thinking based on hope.

     

    At this stage, we simply don`t know if he is an imporovement or not.

     

    My own feeling is that most of the Sevco players are simply not the best so even an improvement will not be enought to match our gradually getting back to full stength side.

  20. TBB

     

     

    Thanks for the reply.

     

     

    I get it Re your rationale.

     

     

    Massive error of judgement from him though, I think, in taking the job. To me that suggests he maybe doesn’t do his homework so thoroughly. Or maybe is believing what he wants to hear.

     

     

    Huge task and of course we know they can’t honour much in the way of promises of jam tomorrow….. never mind today.

     

     

    What it is though is a challenge which we have to be up to. The next 3 games domestically are critical. Win them and we will have won at Rangers Aberdeen Livi Motherwell Hearts and Hibs. Rangers have not played away at any of these difficult venues. I would suggest if we do win these then the job is more than 50% done after 28% of the time gone.

  21. Back to Basics - Glass Half Full on

    “Massive error of judgement from him though, I think, in taking the job. To me that suggests he maybe doesn’t do his homework so thoroughly. Or maybe is believing what he wants to hear”

     

     

    Fair points B78.

     

     

    Time will tell.

     

     

    Equally could it be as simple as

     

     

    a) The phone hasn’t rung

     

    b) €4m guaranteed (or so he thinks)

     

     

    🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

  22. I understand that Rabbie Burns might not be everybody’s cup of tea.

     

     

    However I watched an old clip of Parkinson last night interviewing two Scottish legends, Jimmy Reid and Billy Connolly.

     

     

    Jimmy Reid quotes Burns around 1.07.45 and I believe it resonates today..

     

     

    Classic Parkinson: 1979 – Union Leader Jimmy Reid, Billy Connolly, and Lauren Bacall

     

     

    https://youtu.be/KApI5kksOuM?si=A8nQvwotMWXZsdEU

     

     

    The quote from Burns.

     

     

    “Ye Hypocrites, are these your pranks

     

    To murder men and gie God thanks

     

    Desist for shame, proceed no further

     

    God won’t accept your thanks for murder.”

     

    ― Robert Burns

     

     

    God bless the innocents every where.

     

     

    God keep them safe.

  23. Just watching our game tonight,Mickey Johnson has no game intelligence,he will never make it at Celtic HH

  24. Belgium v Sweden match has abandoned because a gunman claiming to be from ISOS has shot and killed 2 Swedish fans.

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