Did Dave King honestly say there would be a “forensic investigation” before newco, under his control, would repay Mike Ashley’s £10m loan? This, before the second tranche of the loan, which the club will need to meet payroll, is paid, and while Ashley could acquire an array of property and IP assets by simply not transferring the money when expected.
Unnecessarily provoking the source of short-term finance your club is dependent on is a bizarre tactic.
If it is indeed “the end” for the current newco board, as King promises, said board have a matter of weeks to secure whatever assets they can for those who have previously invested in the club and provided loans.
The crux of King’s comments are reported as:
“Would we pay [Ashley] immediately, I don’t think so no. We would complete a forensic investigation.
“If David Somers’ indication is correct that there has been some malfeasance then it is possible that the club would have a claim then I would attach the money and make a claim.
“If any individuals behaved improperly then it is important that they are held accountable.”
There’s a scene in Pulp Fiction when an unfortunate predator, “Z”, is informed that some African Americans are about to “Get medieval on his ass”. We don’t get to see what this means but stay tuned, between now and the EGM, Mike Ashley might just provide a demonstration of what Tarantino had in mind.
Remember, Ashley is not at Ibrox because he fancies being the next David Murray. He is not interested in the godforsaken world of having to run a football club in Glasgow, he’s happy to allow others to carry this burden.
He may well allow King to ‘win’ the EGM, but the spoils of victory will be very much on his terms. Trying hard not to imagine Paul Murray in a leather mask now.
Today is World Cancer Day. This disease has taken too many from the blog already, not to mention millions across the globe. There is a lot of good news, though. Progress is being made, but many in the developing world need access to simple preventative treatments, methodologies and information.
The preventative message still needs to get through to a great many in the developing world, before it’s too late. Here’s a video outlining where the battle is at the moment:
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BT
There was other things in the pic????
TheOriginalSadiesBhoy
17:58 on
4 February, 2015
Having chuckled shamelessly at the monkey jokes, I have to say that I am uncomfortable with the use of that term for Sevcoites. I well remember many of them calling the Argentinian soldiers the very same word during the Falklands War. I hated the term. There was also a huge stushie during the 1980s in the USA when the top American Football commentator (his name escapes me) referred to one of the Miami Dolphins wide receivers as a ‘monkey’ . I believe he was as he suggested that he wassking a reference to his athleticism when he used the term but it was the last word that should have been used to describe a black American whether intended as a compliment or in a derogatory way. I hope we will drop usage of it. Continuing to do so will backfire on us and will be used against us.
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But we’re not directing this at a black athlete – we’re directing it at sevco fans. There is no racial element of any kind attached this (very tame) jibe. Can you explain your attaching a racial tone to this?
Have all the laughs you want about monkeys, for some I understand it’s cathartic after bearing their hatred for so long.
I agree with TheOrigonalSadiesBhoy, however, it will certainly come back to haunt us. And if nothing else tarnishes the fine reputation of Celtic supporters across Europe with the fans of other clubs.
Has the term ‘ hun’ or ‘ monkey ‘ been outlawed as being racist or sectarian?
Not sure.
Either way I ain’t keen on describing anyone as a monkey.
However, the moral outrage is incredible from some RM as reported on here.
I certainly object to thousands of Sevconian voices wading up to their knees in my blood.
What a verminous shower they are
The lying king’s very own, licence- fee paid-for PR man on shortbread now. That right, Richard?
Right – off out to the swimming with the weans – back later to catch up.
HH
BGFC
One thing that Phil Mac has done that gets my goat is make the use of the word ‘Presser’ to describe a press conference ubiquitous on this site.
Do hacks use the term?
I have no rational reason for this but it is doing my head in.
archdeaconsbench – Good job he didn’t smell my cheese. (thumbsup)
natknow – you should see the gorilla on the lambeg. (thumbsup)
theoriginalsadiesbhoy – the RST has released a St. Atement to confirm that they are not monkeys.
And if you say they are, they’ll fling poo and bite you.
http://media20.giphy.com/media/KzGCAlMiK6hQQ/giphy.gif?w=320 (thumbsup)
natknow
18:10 on 4 February, 2015
In the United States for example, any banner of this nature at a sporting event would be likely to cause a furore, perhaps even a riot, or two.
Any business, or commercial entity looking at partnering with Celtic would be certain to take this into account if enough noise is made about it.
“If anyone has behaved improperly.”
Guess he doesn’t do irony!
The evolution banner was regarded as another classic Green Brigade banner so why does the latest cause such consternation
I sometimes feel we on Cqn are too busy looking to apologise for things that aren’t even out there.
burghbhoy – However, the moral outrage is incredible from some RM as reported on here.
https://i.imgflip.com/h7rd2.jpg (thumbsup)
Wouldn’t use the term monkey myself and I’ve stopped calling them the H thing as well.
That said I’m pretty sure the term used to be interchangeable – we were fenian monkeys and they were the other type. we both refer to each other as animals and so on. Not nice, not clever but I do have to agree that people are increasingly easily offended and it is a distraction from the stuff that really should offend us.
But this stance leads us to some uncomfortable truths. If we reserve the right to offend by referring to people as monkeys and ‘huns’ then to some extent we have to accept that the Sevco folks, in the context of a football match, might have to be allowed to call us similar.
I’m not talking about anti Irish racism or wanting to wade in our blood or have intimate knowledge of the Pope, but if I was to get called a Timmy Animal or various sweary words then so be it.
I’ve shouted often enough at players that they are dirty animals and opposition fans in the same manner in the context of games. It’s part and parcel – but I have to accept that some might attack me verbally along the same lines.
And by the way – if I thought that by ‘fenian’ a Sevconian meant that I believed in radical Irish republican values then I’d be delighted and not offended. Unless he was doing it while kicking the crap out of me! I am after all something of a fenian……
San Diego Bhoy
18:16 on
4 February, 2015
natknow
18:10 on 4 February, 2015
In the United States for example, any banner of this nature at a sporting event would be likely to cause a furore, perhaps even a riot, or two.
Any business, or commercial entity looking at partnering with Celtic would be certain to take this into account if enough noise is made about it.
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The US is a different culture – one that has enormous problems with race on the basis of it’s recent political history. I don’t see many riots at Hartlepool FC when visiting fans taunt them?
Re: commercials – somebody better tell U.S. business hockeymonkey.com – it might affect their sales.
To repeat – there is no racial element to this – other than the one the RST are desperate to attach to it. To any thinking person, this says more about their mindset than ours.
blantyretim is praying for the knox family
18:20 on 4 February, 2015
I agree for Celtic fans, especially in Scotland, the banner is funny and hits the nail on the head.
I’m not make apologies for the banner, or the intent. However, you have to put it in context with those who have no knowledge of the history of der hun.
Neutrals observing from the outside just see the literal meaning of the wording and draw their own conclusions.
What do think those conclusions about our support are likely to be?
jimtim
17:13 on
4 February, 2015
hun skelper
15:15 on 4 February, 2015
jimtim
13:13 on 4 February, 2015
What are the rules about loans ????
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You have to repay them unless you are the world’s greatest football administrator.
Celtic are set to increase the ticket allocation to Aberdeen for our game at CP.
Armageddon CSC
How will calling the sevvies “monkeys” come back to haunt us? Where is the racist connection?
blantyretim is praying for the Knox family
18:20 on 4 February, 2015
The evolution banner was regarded as another classic Green Brigade banner so why does the latest cause such consternation
I sometimes feel we on Cqn are too busy looking to apologise for things that aren’t even out there.
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There’s a lot of pointless collective angst on here at times.
Fitba has become too sanitised. Like life in general. We’ve all got a bit soft I think. And we’ve lost touch with the things that really ought to concern us. Some of the time.
natknow
18:23 on 4 February, 2015
Yep, you said it. You, and/or I are not making judgements.
Others will inevitably however, and that’s the crux of the matter.
Hey ho, we will just have to live with it.
DBBIA, BSR,
I ‘ve got three Inter tickets, all North Stand lower.
My son and I on two, Neil wants the other, (he’s on half term, so staying over here), so probably doesn’t need a lift.. Unless
He gets a ticket and lift from you, DBBIA, and BSR takes my spare ticket.
Should really be on text and/or email.
Sorry everyone else.
EC67
Im in the, don’t like the monkey reference camp, zombies is better. I understand that there is no racial element but could be construed that way.
Scott Lamont, was heard by police singing the words “Up to our knees in Fenian blood” on Cathcart Road on February 1.
The 24-year-old pled guilty yesterday at Glasgow Sheriff Court and sentencing was deferred until next month.
Sheriff Paul Crozier told him: “This sort of behaviour is quite frankly something from an age long, long ago.”
One down 19,999 to go?
the superior peoples who have been refering to others as taigs, fenians , paodoes, tatty munchers, bog dwellers , tinkers, gypsies, bead rattlers,
dont like it back.
monkeys,
huns,
poor we lambs.
I suppose this all has to be seen in the context of the complaining supporters followoing a club that the BNP has long regarded as fertile recruiting ground and who are normally considered the second club of every far right hooligan in England and the first of most far right thugs in Scotland……..
Oldco and Newco – not getting the irony since 1872 or 2012
Oh wait a minute or two. I forgot ( thanks Mike in Toronto) that they call themselves bears but that doesn’t dehumanise them but if we call them by another animal’s name it does? Can’t have their cake and eat it.
Forget my last post.
Threewisemonkeyscsc
And I forgot to mention 20plus K of them singing in praise of their favourite Fascist and Ku Klux Klan member, wife beater, strike breaker and general sectarian racist thug…..
Hmmm
“As far as the the the the tax issue is concerned.”
Nervous, Dave?
No one outside of Scotland know the truth about the death of the old orcs and everyone thinks they where relegated into the bottom tier of Scottish football
They kicked hearts fans up and down Glasgow a few weeks ago and msm said nothing
We have a couple of idiots and it’s carnage
Don’t forget Cqn and it’s reason for starting
Lazy journalism and we go running about like headless chickens
My own opinion is that there are endless, cleverer and more specific points we could use to rib the hun than this one chosen on Sunday.
I’ll leave it at that.
Aff oot.
Just seen King on the news saying Celtic can win 45% of the time. That’s nice of him.
San Diego Bhoy
18:29 on
4 February, 2015
natknow
18:23 on 4 February, 2015
Yep, you said it. You, and/or I are not making judgements.
Others will inevitably however, and that’s the crux of the matter.
Hey ho, we will just have to live with it.
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Others already do make judgements – they see a guy in a Celtic top and think “taig”, “fenian bastard”, “IRA scum”, etc. So inflatable monkeys at the football are the least of Scotland’s problems. Let’s get real. What worries me more is Celtic fans feeling nervous about an inflatable monkey because they think there’s something racial going on? Never heard such nonsense!
My favourite
“From an evolutionary viewpoint we ARE monkeys, so they’ve embarrassed themselves there.” [Thanks for that Simian, I mean Sammy.]
Should someone tell them we evolved from apes and not monkeys? Then watch their perms raging faces turn an even deeper shade of purple if it’s possible.
Il Padrino
18:27 on 4 February, 2015
How will calling the sevvies “monkeys” come back to haunt us? Where is the racist connection?
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I’m not sure but you have to remember – Rangers Died in 2012 and their spirit still stalks the land haunting the feck out of us to this day.
Don’t mess with the undead. Even though they do move very slowly, have no brains and appear very easy to beat.
Philvis
:-)) I can just imagine them flinging poo.
What a furore over the term monkey and at the same time an acceptance of Mhankey, taig, Fenian, pape and various shades of paedo. Sometimes I see the influence of the wider Scottish media on the views of even the educated parts of our support. Try shouting the other side down before turning on your own.
Surely this would be a better song for them to sing. Although I’m sure they would manage to work the words FTP or Fenian B@@@@@d in their somewhere.
http://youtu.be/hUzexePjWlI
PG Tips anyone?
http://www.rangers.co.uk/club/history/former-managers/item/331-bill-struth