Assessing achievements in rear view mirror

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Optimism among the Celtic support is tangible right now. For much of last year the league title remained in the balance, but today, despite being promised a more taxing season, we’re miles ahead. You can get odds of over 40-1 on second favourites to win the title; the definition of No Contest.

As I noted yesterday, the transformation goes deeper than the heroics of Scott Sinclair and Moussa Dembele, neither of whom were material in the level of performance shown against Barcelona.

Achievements are often subject to reassessment at a later date and Celtic’s progress or otherwise over the last two years fall into this category.

A year ago, with a faltering Craig, Emilio, Efe, Dedryk, Stuart, Gary, James and others, we looked miles away from being a Champions League team. It turns out, we have a squad full of Champions League players.

Youth development hit the jackpot with Kieran Tierney, while John Park’s swansong signings, Erik Sviatchenko and Moussa Dembele, saw a return to form for our recently departed chief scout.

Money isn’t everything. Since 2004 it’s been clear on CQN that many Celtic fans have no interest in the game’s finances, all they are interested in is seeing an improving team on the park, but for the rest of us, the financial consequence of simply getting to the group stage this season is enormous. It makes accession to the same level next season so much more achievable.

None of that matters right now as we have the first cup final of the season coming up on Sunday. The litany of underachievement in this tournament stretches back to Jock Stein, who qualified for ever League Cup final during his 13 years in charge of Celtic, but after winning the first five, contrived to lose seven of the next eight.

I’ve seen a lot worse teams than Aberdeen knock us out of the League Cup, I hope nothing is taken for granted in the dressing room.

I’ve no idea what happened at the Newco AGM this morning but you’ll remember we discussed here the wisdom of launching a hostile takeover bid while a company is being driven into the sea by boycotts? More precisely, Newco was driven into the arms of the lender of last resort – Sports Direct. Sports Direct provided the cash that kept the lights on and picked up various rights and properties in compensation.

Offering a lender a shop at a rental of £1 per year for a decade seems harsh, but if the alternative is administration, there isn’t really an alternative. We didn’t know what the quid-pro-quo was for Ashley at the time, but we knew there had to be one.

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  1. VFR800 is now a Monster 821 on

    BMCUWP, there was no glam rock wars. Bowie define it and the rest followed.

     

     

    Queen were a fantastic band. Saw them several times. The first 2 albums in particular were fantastic. Sheer Heart Attack was mor accessible. Went downhill in the 80’s.

     

     

    The Stranglers and Punk Rock were unbelievable. Saw them as well many times. You’re right about Peaches! Their bass lines were awesome.

     

     

    70’s music reigns supreme.

     

     

     

    KTF

  2. WITS

     

    Just me and Mrs Park Road mhate staying in Harding Hotel up at Christchurch been there before so looking forward to going back , obviously be in touch wae you before then ! Mon the Hoops !!

  3. macjay1 for Neil Lennon on

    BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on 27TH NOVEMBER 2016 12:02 AM

     

    MACJAY

     

     

     

    Strange that you should take pleasure in a failed state-Venezuela-as a comparison to Cuba.

     

     

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    Unwarranted accusation.

     

    I speak about a political hegemony .

     

    You speak about me.

     

    The man not the ball.

     

    Most unlike you.

     

     

    The people of Cuba and Venezuela are governed by socialist despots . They cling to each other in a desperate and futile attempt to sustain the unsustainable.

     

     

    Two or three years ago Cuba introduced a law which permitted people to open shops and sell things.

     

    Cloud cuckoo land.

     

    Cubans don`t have basic human rights and this the CQN socialist rump attempts to justify.

     

    Mate.

     

    Why attempt to defend the indefensible ?

  4. 16 roads – Celtic über alles… on 27th November 2016 12:23 am

     

     

    Lennybhoy – Big time MIB! Can be the difference between a loss and a victory, as manys the time before.

     

     

    G64 – Best times we are living in mo chara. It really is a wonderful life being a Celtic supporter just now.

     

     

    Petec – Whatever was said there between you and HT was probably taken out of context.

     

     

    It’s almost Christmas.

     

     

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    There have been so many Snidey comments on CQN. I really didn’t expect that from HT.

     

     

    Who gives a feck – I don’t.

     

     

    Loose Cannons are Great.

     

     

    I guess Group thinking is coming to the fore.

     

     

    Increase the peace.

     

     

    HH.

  5. HAMILTONTIM on 27TH NOVEMBER 2016 12:39 AM

     

    Sorry but I cannot see a post from TD at 9:07 On 25th November, what page number I ask because I cannot see it?

  6. Hate to say it but this site is falling apart. Can’t see comments now for for sidebar ads. The site keeps reloading and is way too slow. Sorry Paul but you’ve ruined the site with ads

  7. macjay1 for Neil Lennon on

    CHAIRBHOY on 27TH NOVEMBER 2016 12:13 AM

     

    MACJAY1 @ 11:42 PM,

     

     

     

    Well I’ve got to agree, while Castro probably seen the siting of Nuclear Missiles in Cuba as a good strategy for his Country’s defence and as a Cold war manoeuvre.

     

     

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    I rather think it was an ideological decision rather than a strategic one.

     

     

    The Mafia hated Kennedy because Brother Bobby got stuck into organised crime and the story goes that the Mafia had been enlisted to help with the election of John and effectively secured the vote in some vital districts. Chicago ?

     

    The Quid turned out not to be followed by the Pro Quo.

     

    Apparently retribution followed.

  8. VFR…

     

    Thanks, I’ve deleted your repost, sure you will understand. I still can’t see and have mailed P67 to ask why I cannot see it but you can

  9. Good evening/morning all.

     

    Moderator. Apologies in advance.

     

    I’m pissed.

     

    Tony.9.07.Take a deep breath. Inhale. Hold for a minimum 5 seconds. Exhale.

     

    Don’t look for conflict buddy.

  10. 16 roads - Celtic über alles... on

    Petec – Fair enough mo chara.

     

     

    I know yous both personally, and I’m not trying to be a sycophant – but a would never argue with yous on here and a don’t like to see yous arguing either.

     

     

    Genuine respect.

     

     

    That’s all.

     

     

    It’s no big fs.

     

     

    HH Legend.

  11. Celticrollercoaster supporting @WalkWithShay on

    Good early morning Hoopsters

     

     

    Good week ahead

     

     

    Cup final tomorrow

     

     

    Thursday brings The Dunwells gig. Leeds band with Bishopbriggs family and Celtic connections that played at my 25th

     

     

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vkp1MNsCEo

     

     

    …and Deccy in the final of LMS8, ha ha! The wee mhan has been on the ceiling for weeks and has already spent the money :-)

     

     

    HH

     

     

    CRC

  12. Thatcher. Pinochet .Ireland.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Anything but Castro.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    No problem .

     

     

     

     

     

     

    BTW.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    As a Catholic , I believe that the end NEVER justifies the means.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    An article of Faith.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    As a Catholic I was encouraged to believe that often the end does justify the means.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Goodness only knows what would have happened had Jesus not thrown out the capitalist tax collectors.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    HT,

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    “As a Catholic I was encouraged to believe that often the end does justify the means.”

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    I really don’t understand that, Everyone makes mistakes and even posts things in error, perhaps because drink has been taken?

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    Or drugs Pete?

     

     

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    gordybhoy64 on 27th November 2016 12:50 am

  13. I used to donate quite generously to SFM. I would throw in the odd remark every few months.

     

     

    I no longer do either because the inconsistency of Moderators and moderation were a source of consternation.

     

    Of course, some posters need to be moderated from time to time.

     

     

    I hope this does not happen on here.

  14. Celticrollercoaster supporting @WalkWithShay on

    So any news on the Griff? Is he fit; on the bench?

     

     

    Are we likely to play two up front like CQN?

     

     

    Unfortunately Mod 1 Winters and Mod 2 Winters, appear to get in each others way :-)

     

     

    Ha, not an easy job at all!

     

     

    HH

     

     

    CRC

  15. macjay1 for Neil Lennon on

    BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on 27TH NOVEMBER 2016 1:01 AM

     

    MACJAY

     

     

     

    I genuinely thought I was doing the opposite.

     

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    Just reread that.

     

    You`re right.

     

     

    Bobby.

     

    ” The moneyed . ”

     

    These are the guys that pay most of the taxation.

     

    They have to be encouraged . No profit no tax. No tax no welfare.

     

    Agree absolutely about the unacceptable face of capitalism and a fair distribution of wealth.

     

    Balance. That`s all.

     

    Not the destructive ideologically based B.S. which Cubans and Venezuelans currently have to endure.

     

    Imagine having to leave Venezuela and go to Colombia to buy food.

  16. Pete

     

     

    I asked if you felt that way way about me when I got you a ticket for Dundee away. Still no reply.

     

     

    Macjay

     

     

    Likewise.

     

     

    Off to bedbugs honestly fed up with the nonsense on here.

     

     

    Tims, Celtic to win by at least 2 tomorrow.

  17. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    iKI

     

     

    Did you see my post in support of your views before it got moderated?

     

     

    If not,behind you every step.

  18. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    Oh,and…….

     

     

    BLOODY WELL DONE

     

     

    on getting a ticket for Lynchiebhoy.

     

     

    CQN,who says it’s shite?

  19. Celticrollercoaster supporting @WalkWithShay on

    BMCUWP

     

     

    Thanks for your recent help. Got your email today and will action tomorrow

     

     

    Caityrollercoaster is very grateful. The power of CQN is wonderful. The side advert bars, now that’s another matter

     

     

     

    HH

     

     

    CRC

  20. BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on 27TH NOVEMBER 2016 1:12 AM

     

    iKI

     

     

     

    Did you see my post in support of your views before it got moderated?

     

     

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    No I did not see it.

     

     

     

     

    Thanks for kind remarks.

  21. Hamiltontim on 27th November 2016 1:11 am

     

     

    Pete

     

     

     

     

     

     

    I asked if you felt that way way about me when I got you a ticket for Dundee away. Still no reply.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Macjay

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Likewise.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Off to bedbugs honestly fed up with the nonsense on here.

     

     

     

     

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

     

     

     

    I’ve checked back, can’t see anything relevant, a lot of deleting going on howevaaaah.

     

     

    If You tell me something, it is guarded well.

     

     

    Dae yer good works in secret Santa, ya.

  22. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    MACJAY

     

     

    They have to be encouraged to pay tax. Every penny in the area in which it was earned.

     

     

    How can it be right that when someone pays two quid for a coffee,two and a half quid is charged against income?

     

     

    Or £120m of goods are sold and £20m is lost on a profit of £50m?

     

     

    Balance? MACJAY,we are way behind now. Lost.

     

     

    Yer hero/ine Mrs T spoke about trickle down.

     

     

    The rich will empower the less rich.

     

     

    It never happened.

     

     

    Until now.

     

     

    Everyone is skint.

     

     

    There’s yer trickle down.

  23. Hello Paul:

     

    I have been lurking and occasionally posting on this site since it opened. I wondered where some of your best posters had disappeared to. Now I know.

     

    I think it is the ads. They have now rendered this site impossible.

     

     

    The site constantly reloads. Navigation is out of the question. I really detest ads, which have the opposite effect on me to that desired by the advertiser. I will never use Turkish Airlines, because of that maddening Tiger Woods ad. Now the site is squeezed on both sides by a M & S ad. I will never use them again.

     

     

    I have switched off java script. My IPad is incompatible with Adblocker or Neverads. It works fine with about 50 other book marked pages. But CQN is ruined. Even posting is a tough task, as the script lags typing by about 10 seconds.

     

    So it is goodbye from me. I will miss reading the fine contributions every day. Good luck.

     

    IniquitousIV

  24. Gerryfaethebrig on

    Mod 1 mod 2

     

     

    I apologise if u thought my post was not the best enjoy your life life

     

     

    Cqn take care, that’s me gone

  25. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    INIQUITOUSIV

     

     

    Difficult to disagree with you. But lots of us persevere,because we care about the site,how it’s viewed by others. And certainly don’t want it turning into a green RM,for instance

     

     

    Aye,it’s bad at times,takes some effing about wi Settings,but heyho,have this!

     

     

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6yGFuX2KDQs

  26. 16 roads - Celtic über alles... on

    29th Street.

     

     

    Petec/CRC – Good luck to the wee ones for 2mara.

     

     

    Bobby M – Was in yer oul fella’s pub last week, The Flowing Tide, raised a glass of Powers in tribute to yous both.

     

     

    Celtic for the victory.

     

     

    Praise be to Jesus Christ, the Saviour.

     

     

    Oiche mhaith.

     

     

    KTF.