Tomorrow’s Annual General Meeting of the Scottish Premier League is set to be the third great football meeting in the last two weeks. The Prophet of Armageddon, chief executive Neil Doncaster, will face his shareholders and either have to declare he was being truthful when he told them, and Scottish Football League clubs, the SPL would be unable to fulfil their contractual obligations if Sevco were denied a place in the First Division, or that this was a cunning ruse designed to manipulate clubs and fans alike.
Doncaster was surely encouraged by some in the SPL to adopt his confrontational stance but support from SPL clubs was certainly not universal. No representatives from Celtic participated in any meetings or conversations regarding the contents of the presentation made to SFL clubs, nor was the club informed or consulted on it.
Well done to the Aberdeen fans who kicked off the Sell-out Saturday initiative. They hope to sell-out Pittodrie for their 11 August game and want to as many fans as possible to buy season tickets. The idea has been picked up by clubs throughout the league.
I get the feeling that if supporters groups got together we could use this unique moment, when camaraderie among fans coincided with unparalleled fan power over the clubs, to define a framework for the game we wanted, not something a dreamt up by a Norfolk MBA.
Even if we couldn’t get every fan group pulling in the same direction, a few productive bilateral relationships is all it takes to establish an powerful pressure group.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhIeF2IyGcA&feature=em-subs_digest
An antidote to the MSM poison today
A good news story
CultsBhoy @ 10 28
” Also I fancy idea of beating Sevco 4 times a season .
Old Firmism !
stevebhoy @ 10;33
On BBC Northern Ireland under “most popular”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-18829447
It took us more than 100 years to rid ourselves of rangers and the shame of the association that the label “old firm” brought us, no way we should sell our soul to Murdoch to form an unholy bond with the newco.
No to newfirm guilt by association.
A Hun from school who I haven’t seen for 30yr has posted on his Facebook – he’s puting £10k on ‘Rangers’ to win SPL in 2016…
Hilarious….
Gordon,
Thanks. UTV have it, but they have only put about twenty seconds of the famine song on their site, none of the violence. Beeb reported orange band plays ‘loyalist’ tunes outside Catholic Church, Parades Commission say that is not allowed. MSM, eh!
HH
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IEA6qgEd5o&feature=em-subs_digest
A reminder to the MSM the reasons why Rankers are in the process of being liquidated
EKBhoy-Somebody should have the balls to approach Barry Hearn to run Scottish Football.A guy who is unsurpassed when it comes to marketing and selling Sport.Anyone who can have live fishing on TV and have a huge audience and sponsors on board,is a genius.
There is a German sports channel called SportEagle – it shows German sport, with english language content. they interviewed ‘Coach Lennon’ (it is very american…) at the celtic base in bavaria. After the augsburg game, they were chatting to a ghuy from Glasgow who had travelled over to watch the match. The journo asked him about rangers demise, and whether it would affect Celtic and the league. his response was brilliant – diplomatic, considered, and basically stating that most of their history was something that would not be missed in a modern society.
The vid isn’t on their website – will have a look about for it and try to post a link.
South Of Tunis – at least you have hair for the beastie to fly into.
spare a thought for Gordon Smith.
Anyways,
Just been to the vets, and in a bad news day he tells me my wee dug “Rebel” is suffering badly, toxic poisining , and needs to go the the big kennel in the sky.
We have an appointment next week, for the end of days.
I will miss the wee fella. Those days running along the beach. That time he chased the squirrels up a tree and managed to jump up into the branches himself. Then there was him running out the door onto the ice and sliding doon the road.
Filling up here.
Anyways, I took his collar , his wee tartan coat, his bowl, all with the “Rebel” name on them, and ive got myself a NewDug 1088, and given all these things to him.
Remember that day NewCo Rebel, when we ran along the beach …………
well thats what Gordon Smith told me, its defiantely the same dug.
Going by Murdo MacLeod’s guff today,he has woken up and realised he has backed the wrong horse.
Why are you so desperate to beat a Third Division team?
This club has never played a single match in its history, why should Celtic be expected to play them?
If we are drawn to play Sevco in the League Cup or the Scottish Cup, I doubt I’ll even make an effort to go.
Stevebhoy
https://twitter.com/nicolapking/statuses/223694528614375426
Saint Stivs-Sorry for your news.
Any movement on the Cowdenbeath share price? (only joking)
Any chance that Lloyds might sponsor at least on of the cup competitions for the next three seasons? (sort of joking)
Down here the schools have a student of the week competition. There is usually a wee token prize for the winner. It encourages good behaviour in school.
If every supporter of every team who could afford to was prepared to commit to spending 50p a week for the next three season… how many season tickets could we buy in each club and assign them to schools as a prize for their very own students of the week.
As an example:
St Mirren Football Club –
Reid Kerr College Family (South) Stand
Family (2 adults + free 12 & unders) – £550
Adult – £310
Concession – £150
Child (13-17) – £70
Child (12 and under) – 3 free with adult/concession season ticket
Row ‘A’ Disabled – £50*
Carer – £50
So for £150 (assuming St. Mirren would accept a teacher or responsible adult as a Concession) if only six of us on here were to agree to pay 50p a week for three years (which is £25 per annum then we could get four punters in to St. Mirrens home games.
I’m sure other teams would have similar priced packages.
We are renowned for our charitable hearts; we could take the lead on this and invite all the other teams’ supporters to join us. A national Kano Foundation if you like.
It wouldn’t take many to encourage a sporting social revolution and all for the good of Scottish Football.
There must be thousands of people across Scotland of every affiliation who would subscribe if the structure was in place and the teams would buy into it. (Not joking)
Cheers, Voguepunter. Got it. Keep meaning to look in to your local, haven’t been in since my dad died. We used to enjoy a pint in there.
HH
LuxCelt:
I watched that vid on youtube a couple of nights ago.
!!Bada Bing!! on 16 July, 2012 at 10:46 said:
Going by Murdo MacLeod’s guff today,he has woken up and realised he has backed the wrong horse.
Spew keevins penned it on his behalf, it is to maintain two illusions! the rag is balanced and Murdo is a sellick man
VP-Disgusting stuff,see the old lycra clad babes still following the Circus.
Keevans’ piece is pathetic.
The blame for financial hardships that may lie ahead for clubs can be laid squarely in one place only: Not the SPL chairmen who voted that the current rules were fine. Nor the SFL chairmen. Any future negative effects will be arrived at purely because one big club grossly mismanaged it’s own affairs, and collapsed. That ‘insolvency event’ also may take down others with it. No other party is culpable
That fact itself highlights that the structure of the game is flawed. If one club can fail, and bring the whole game down with it, then there is something wrong with the foundations of the game itself. So why revive the dead club to regain the status quo. It makes no sense from any side of the argument, yet that is what those in power are advocating. By continuing to take this position shows they are either corrupt or incompetent – and that applies to the hacks as well.
Sorry if this is old news. Guy at my work who is a Falkirk fan (he’s a offical in the supporters club) told me Falkirk were one of the five who voted to allow the huns into the 1st Div.Not a happy Bairn along with most of them.
Imagine if the SFA get their wish and merge the leagues, adding a full pyramid structure, like the one in Switzerland where you can sit in a pub with your mates creating a new team and once you register it: voila, your route to the Scottish Football Super Premier Bestest Ever League is open, albeit you have 8 divisions to overcome, not to mention ever increasing license criteria.
Imagine that.
Now imagine you’re a long suffering Hearts or Aberdeen fan who is finally at the end of their tether regarding the running (ruining) of your club. What do you do? Do you continue to bite the bullet or create a new club and work your way up the leagues? Would you feel the same about the new club (I guess you would, it’d be yours)? Would the fans feel the same?
And would the SFA ever countenance such a thing?
Anyone interested in these things (league reconstruction) should seriously have a shufty at the Swiss League pyramid model – it allows reserve sides to play and many do, including reserve teams of clubs the size of Arbroath etc. From what I recall, it covers almost the full adult football spectrum in Switzerland including around 2,500 teams (obviously some of these are reserves and 3rd teams).
Perhaps some of our resident Swiss-based guys can expand.
I digress.
Is the reason we do not have a full pyramid one to do, not with the jealous retention of coveted league spots by lower league teams, but more to do with the fear of the big teams?
Would there be two Celtic’s in the league, perhaps one created in 1993, had this path been available? Would a new team gather much support if the old team were still successful (FC United of Manchester??), what about if the old team were stuck in a downward spiral? What if two disparate new sides were created, thus splitting potential support?
So, what if the full pyramid structure was opened up and someone, let’s call him Boomer, wanted to create a club based on ‘Traditional’ values whereas another wanted to create a forward thinking club with a strong emphasis on sustainability and youth development (aye, right)?
And what if neither of these two held any playing or capital assets, only the will and a measure of supporter backing?
Kitalba – was a good video – well worth a watch.
For anyone who is interested:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IswmQ4O1BLc
Celts in germany. Ghuy at the end is class.
If we get drawn against a div 3 team in the Cup it’s usually ‘free’ on the season book.
-will this apply to Sevco?
Saint Stivs @ 10 45 .
My condolences !
Toxic poisoning ?
I had a Staffie in London . She had a seefood diet —-if she saw food she ate it ——–
Out walking one dark night in Ladbroke Grove she dived into a privet hedge and emerged with the ” furry /blue ” remnants of a long discarded kebab . She died 2 days later[ of food poisoning] -I was bereft .
Big up to your wee Rebel.
Several times in the last few months, it has been remarked in this forum, that various people connected with Rangers were living in a state of denial.
This condition apparently extends to aspects other than football in of the lives of their Northern Ireland brethren.
Early last week, BBC Northern Ireland reported, without going into detail, that the Orange Order was presenting a ‘peaceful solution’ to defuse a contentious Twelfth celebration in the Ardoyne district of Belfast.
On Saturday, the same source gave an example of the Order’s idea of peaceful solutions.
On the Twelfth, filmed by different people, a band from the Shankill giving it their best, circled on the street outside St. Patrick’s Donegall St. True to form, the celebrants were less than happy on discovering that their activities were being filmed.
This morning, a fine fellow called Nelson McCausland claimed on BBC Northern Ireland, that the band’s actions had been misrepresented. And that it had not deliberately stopped outside St. Patrick’s.
We can only assume that as part of a devilish Popish plot, the bands innocent progress had been obstructed by hundreds pouring out of the church at the end of a provocatively timed Mass.
There’s no doubt in my mind that the Scottish MSM live in a bubble. They see things that nobody else seems to see.
Where we see rules being applied fairly and without favour they see “revenge”, bloodlust”, “spite”, etc
Where we see an opportunity to start the Scottish game on a genuinely level playing field they see doomsday for all.
Where we want to rightly give us some praise for the honest and decent chairmen who acted with decency and no small amount of courage they see “pygmies” ruling the game.
Most amazingly they all seem to come up each day with virtually the same agenda and playbook; there is no idependence of thought or alternative scenarios – just the same “message for the day”. Wonder in which room they pick that up?
Then they wonder why sales of their papers are in freefall.
Hateley said: “In our eyes back in the 90s it was all about identifying an achievable target. And what a feeling it was when we pulled it off.”
I thought the target was 10-in-a-row?
Another failure.
lionroars67 on 16 July, 2012 at 10:39 said
what a great video, shows the chasm between our great club and the deid one.
pc67
Scottish football is run by intellectual pygmies and reported on by people who wish to attain that status.
kitalba on 16 July, 2012 at 10:48:
Perhaps I’m being heartless but should teams like St Mirren not market their club to their own fans, providing a package that allows their fans to happilly part with their money to support their team? If Celtic need to pay teams to stay afloat then the game in Scotland is not sustainable.
As for St Mirren, it’s obvious that they are one of the schemers that believed rangers would be back in the SPL next season, infecting SPL1 with the corrupting influence of dodgy officials abetting win at all costs rangers in the same manner they have destroyed the SPL over the past few years.
Scottish football needs a revolution and I can’t see the corrupt, rangers helping teams surviving the next few seasons. Scottish football will be better without them.
SPL1 should be SFL1
Before I get loads of Dug stories, “Rebel” was a figment of my imagination, just a gentle parody of the Sevco situation, “Rebel” is about as real as a handsome hun.
The honest mistake
Teams are in a mess precisely because of Murray and Souness and their successors buying titles and cheating for years. If they are now saying that they need a cheating Rangers (or whatever it’s called today) to survive, they are not sustainable businesses and need to go.
Steinreignedsupreme on 16 July, 2012 at 10:57 said:
Hateley said: “In our eyes back in the 90s it was all about identifying an achievable target. And what a feeling it was when we pulled it off.”
I thought the target was 10-in-a-row?
Another failure.
+++++
Nope, the target was to beat
Red Star Belgrade, nope, it was to beatSparta Prague, um,Levski Sofia, erm,AEK Athens, uh,IFK Gothenburg, ach, the target was to be the peepil.Scotlands 14s won the cup in the youth Olympics in South Korea when they beat Russia 4-1 in the final and my grandson scored one of the goals!! YIPPPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE <o)))
Celtic_First on 16 July, 2012 at 11:06:
I agree, its either that or curtail Celtic’s potential in order to keep them on life support. That’s not helping anybody.
Saint Stivs
“Getting another dug is just like a new signing” Mark Hately
HH