I’m older than Virgil van Dijk and I’ve seen more football scenarios than he has, so in this respect it is forgivable for him to be talking about Celtic going through the entire league programme undefeated, but Virgil was in the Celtic team who lost at home to Morton less than two months ago, so he really should know the only place to do your talking is on the football field.
Celtic have a rather important game on Tuesday, which the manager will quite rightly be preparing for, making tomorrow’s game against Aberdeen an open race. If Virgil’s (reported) mind-set is shared by many in the dressing room the 7/1 odds against Aberdeen look generous.
Better all-round if we knock any ‘undefeated all season’ talk on the head. It’s fine fare for fans but not for players.
Feeling gutted for the five Celtic fans who failed to get justice in Amsterdam yesterday. The rest of us can busy ourselves campaigning on their behalf but verdict will be a blow to the five and their families.
Have you heard the ‘Tommy Burns – single’, in aid of the Tommy Burns Skin Cancer Trust? Available on iTunes, 99p. Wire in.
I hope you’ve enjoyed the current edition of CQN Magazine, not that I want to divert you away, but… The Football Pink magazine is well worth a read. We don’t get to read about Hugo Meisl and the Winderteam enough. Hugo’s in the current issue, along with an excellent article on The history of Irish centre backs, the player loan system, and an article on Gunter Netzer, the midfield general who brought West German football into the modern era.
Columba Club, Blantyre, tonight, 8pm, me, Phil, Paul, Lourdes Fund, Q&A, general revelry. Tickets on the door.
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Pfayre I agree and sadly I don’t think celtic will react. Do you think celtic get how important this is.
bournesouprecipe,
My old dad drove those buses, mind when they changed to orange, I’m sure when they braked it sounded like a flute band.
Time to get wrapped up and head up for our buckets, enjoy the game and dig deep.Hail Hail
Kitalba we will have our memories and emotions. We can start again (like the Hun). But it would be starting again and building again. What was past is gone.
The alternative would effectively mean the death of companies as corporate legal entities and why on earth old anyone pay their bills when you could simply just carry on as if nothing had happened and liquidation just a technicality?
Man you could bring down capitalism with that approach!
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NegAnon2
We haven’t ‘called them’ on anything, and that’s why it’s just “PL’s little joke”
in the Scottish media.
RC (elected unopposed) was a calculated Sevco sympathy response.
It’s all up to Celtic, and unless they choose to fight the new club, like you
– I’m out.
The CQN Annual is on its way to the following destinations. £2 from each of these will be donated to the Amsterdam Defence Fund. Many thanks to all
Ardrossan
Perth
Bothwell
Paisley
Lossiemouth
Keighley
Letterkenny
Grangemouth
Lanark
Liverpool
Carfin
London
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Dunfermline
Cleverleys
Ashton under Lyme
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Newton Mearns
CF
See you in Babbity Bowsters today,you know who I’m talking too.
Bournes I agree. Not in my name!
sipsini
Changed days? – A Green White and Gold transport system
then they go ‘underground’ along with the clockwork orange.
Clashcitybhoy
10:46 on
23 November, 2013
The real question is why did Ogilvie consider it necessary to pass comment on the whole event?
Exactly.
Thm,
you are straying a bit close to ‘chicken and seggco theory’ there…:)
see you later
E=mc2
It’s pretty straightforward really.
A group of like minded folk interested in playing the game of football got together and formed a members club. They called it Rangers Football Club, and the club was run according to the rules that the membership subscribed to.
25 years later, with the development of the professional game and its concomitant financial liabilities, the members of the club elected to change its legal status, from that of an unincorporated association where the members were liable for debts, to a private limited company. Thus Rangers Football Club became The Rangers Football Club Ltd.
The members, in incorporating their club, drafted an agreement to this end, and thereafter defined a Memorandum and a set of Articles of Association for the new limited company in order that all concerned would have complete clarity on their purpose in incorporating, and on the status of those who were formerly members of the club.
This is all recorded in the Articles of Association adopted by the former members of the club, subsequently of course shareholders. Article 3 describes the transition from club to company, and Article 4 describes the transition from member to shareholder.
For the purpose of complete clarity, Article 6 states:
“The words ‘Club’ and ‘Company’ and also the words ‘Member’ and ‘Shareholder’ throughout the said Memorandum and Articles of Association shall, where the context admits of it, be of synonymous meaning”
For simplicity, the directing mind of the members of Rangers Football Club determined that, on incorporation: Club became Company; Member became Shareholder.
Their legal entity, The Rangers Football club Ltd, was until recently a member of the SFA. It is no longer.
That same legal entity was licensed to participate in Scottish and European football. It is no longer.
That same legal entity has been consigned to be dissolved. It is… no longer of this world.
A handful of (anonymous) businessmen (claim to have validly) purchased the stadium, training grounds, assorted assets and the right to the business markers of “Rangers FC” in a liquidation sale.
They have since recruited a number of footballers, obtained permission to participate in the senior game in Scotland, and every other week they take to the pitch in the colours and name of Rangers FC to play games of football at Ibrox stadium. They are permitted, and have elected, to call their team Rangers FC. They have even changed their company name accordingly.
From the perspective of the Law, Football Regulation, and the directing mind of the members when they incorporated their club, Rangers FC the entity, no longer exists in the tangible world.
We can of course elect to believe that this new team is the same ‘club’ that played at Ibrox Stadium for a hundred years.
Or not.
TBB
Morning Celts!
Re the Dam Bhoys,
I’d like to say a big thank you to Paul67 for his donation of £2 for every Cqn annual sold this weekend, well done sir!
I purchased two Cqn annuals last night and handed an envelope to my son for the bucket collection for the Dam Bhoys. I was in Dam square a few hours before it kicked off and sensed trouble from the watching undercover thugs/ police, it could have been any one of us in prison.
Thanks also to the bucketeers today, you make us all proud.
KTF and HH
parkheadcumsalford who is supporting the amsterdam 5
10:50 on 23 November, 2013
thomthethim,
What gives your brother the belief that we will be able to get out of here? I have had that hope for many a long year and nothing has……
*******
Just that the big clubs will push for change, as will the broadcasting markets.
There is already talk of it.
Also, the calibre of people at the top at CP are not mugs , but highly experienced and capable business people.
He is of the opinion that the SFA are aware of this and that perhaps Celtic’s apparent softly, softly approach to the scandal are part of the deal to leave Sevco behind to lord it over Scottish football, as in days of yore, as we move on and up.
If it’s a dream, then it’s a nice one.
Helps the old blood pressure.
Tootingtim.
But is you transplant the chickens brain with an egg yolk then the formed being would get a job writing for the record.
See you at 2:30
Following on from the 50th anniversary of JFK being killed in Dallas.
At a sombre Celtic Park, fifty years ago today.
Saturday 23rd November 1963, Celtic 5 Kilmarnock 0.
It was very wet, the pitch was muddy, Celtic wore the shamrock strip, played brilliantly and wee Jinky scored the 5th goal. Just as well because he promised he would to me, my brother and a dozen other schoolboys before the match. :-)
According to the Celtic Football Companion the Celtic team was:
Fallon, Young and Gemmell; Clark McNeill and Kennedy; Johnstone Murdoch Chalmers Diver and Hughes. (The same as the song!)
Enjoy the game today!
.
Kit..
Something You said last Night made me Think..* I Know l Know *..
A few Days ago l was trying to Think /Remember if l had Met or Chatted to Kano..
Been in Perth with Our CSC twice and they Visited us in Melbourne and we All met up in Sydney a Couple of Times..
When were You in Perth..?
Ps..My memory is Non existent can’t even remember the name of the Pub the CSC is from..
I was defo there for Jinky’s funeral that l would never forget..
Summa
celtfish
11:02 on 23 November, 2013
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It’s Cleveleys, next door to Blackpool :>)
001 how’s things amigo?
Perth Celts => Rosie O’Gradys methinks.
V
BSR…great photo…however, is it not sunrise? It is looking east…
Agree with you and neganon2…if they are in, I am out…don’t want anything to do with them ever again…
weebobbycollins
So it is! – looking towards ole Carmyle and beyond in the East – stupid stupid internet.
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HH
AC Milan.
Play Genoa tonight @ 19 45.
A game described as ” our most important game between now and Christmas “.
Media are continuing to run stories re arguments in the dressing room and fisty cuffs on the training ground .Allegri has publicly admitted to having temper tantrums during training but has claimed that such things are merely part of the job.
Heard a mightily p’ off Milan supporter on the radio this morning ————this season is over, better not to progress in the Champions League , a good team would humiliate us,
Europa Cup not worth a cazzo. Better to concentrate on Serie A, on current form relegation is a possibility .
NatKnow @ 10:46,
Too true – it was Campbell Ogilvie that stated quite openly that he is conflicted when it comes to Rangers and had withdrawn himself from any affairs dealing with them.
So what’s changed? According to him it’s our Old rival therefore the Rangers that he has a conflict of interest in, why anyone should comment when no rules were breached is beyond me, but IF it needed saying the last person saying it should be Mr Conflicted.
Reading the tone of that statement, does anyone believe that the SFA President has had no input concerning Rangers – no chance – Compliance is the remit of the Officer in charge, Mr Lunny, it’s the second time an SFA President has stuck their nose in on due process in recent times, in both occasions concerning Celtic.
Still back to reality – Good luck to Lenny and the bhoy’s today.
Celtic 3 – 1 Aberdeen
neganon2
10:42 on 23 November, 2013
Kitalba so could I just start a team called third Lanark and claim all their history?
I know the guy who owns the third Lanark name, lovely guy……would never let it slip into the hands of a dirty spiv
The Battered Bunnet
11:10 on 23 November, 2013
‘We can of course elect to believe that this new team is the same ‘club’ that played at Ibrox Stadium for a hundred years.’
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And by that logic one could argue that if you chose to believe that the bills from HMRC, and the face painter, and the sandwich shop and all the rest had been paid then that means they had in fact been paid.
Because if you chose to believe that something is a fact then that something thereby becomes a fact.
Except the world doesn’t operate like that. It’s not a pipe dream.
kitalba and others.
We have a real dilemma and it’s this: few Celtic supporters and fans have actually kept abreast of the Deadco’s machinations. Anyone who has a reasonable understanding of the facts will have invested hours to keep track.
I’ve experienced fellow supporters and family members view my knowledge askance (and I’m being kind to myself here). Most have a mainstream view, gained of course form a manipulative media.
Where The club’s future stance will be presumably formulated from the rump of the fan-bases views ?
It’s unpalatable but when played out the conclusion seems obvious.
Celtic Park – – footprint 23/11/13
Quick reminder…a bit chaotic around Paradise today, so leave a wee bit earlier. You know it makes sense…otherwise, you’ll miss the first goal…
TBB at 11.10
Aye but, naw but. Where has the holding company gone or do you mean – gasp – there never was one?
Obfuscation piled on deflection piled on deception to build The Bonfire of the Fannyties. Aka SFA.
Oldtim . I will ask paul to send it on to you . Many thanks old pal .
Off to the game now, (bit earlier than normal) to try to get somewhere to park…..!!!! C’mon the Hoops….!!!!
On train now, what is it with trains and me? 2 deluded young Huns sitting opposite me. I so want to correct them. Better keeping my mouth shut I think
TBB
I think you nailed it.
Note to myself not to do any impersonations next time we meet:-)
Vmhan – YNWA Wee Oscar
celtfish
11:02 on 23 November, 2013
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It’s Cleveleys, next door to Blackpool :>)
Aye, that’s the one. Never heard of it but then again I am not so Cleverley. !!
kitalba
10:39 on 23 November, 2013
‘I know it’ll cause some perplexity, I know it’ll put noses out of joint too, but surely I’m not alone in believing that Celtic are more than a PLC.’
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Legally no.
When a club operates as a limited company and the limited company is wound up there’s nothing left to claim the titles and history.
There may be a spirit, a soul, whatever you want to call it.
But when someone dies their soul doesn’t inherit their possessions.
Ernie
I believe… we are in Perfect agreement.
Supporters should be careful when exiting towards London Rd, the steps at the Celtic end towards the new temporary ticket office, are extremely busy even when Kerrydale Street
is open.
Caution CSC
23/11 /63.
An Uncle had given me and my sister a record token —–
I bought -The Ronettes –Be My Baby .
My sister bought ——–Gerry and The Pacemakers –You’ll Never Walk Alone..
I went to the game, my sister didn’t..