As newco chief executive, Derek Llambias reported to his AGM yesterday, he meets the SFA today to discuss further involvement of Newcastle United owner, Mike Ashley at his club. Ashley is nearing the end of a power-struggle between his faction, which appears to include the Easdale brothers, and pretty-much everyone else who goes to Ibrox, as well as Dave King and other worthies noticeable by their absence when the assets of oldco were to be paid for.
One of this morning’s newspapers appears to suggest SFA board member Peter Lawwell may retire from this meeting on account of him apparently having a conflict of interest, however, I believe this would be extraordinarily unlikely. Peter is no more or less incentive to see business being conducted appropriately than anyone else.
That’s not to say there’s not a conflict of interest. SFA president, Campbell Ogilvie, will also attend the meeting. Ogilvie passed his Rangers shares to his wife when he became an executive director of Hearts. SFA Articles of Association expressly forbids a person from having an influence with one club while “directly or indirectly” being a shareholder in another without the prior written consent of the SFA.
Mr Ogilvie may have attained prior written consent of the SFA on this subject before accepting the Hearts job, but if he did, I don’t see the need to transfer his shares to a family member. This makes Ogilvie look like a tawdry ducker and diver, wholly inappropriate to lead the Association. If I was Llambias I’d challenge Ogilvie the first moment he opened his mouth.
As I said earlier in the week, don’t get too hung up on Ashley’s shareholding. If it proves a stumbling block he could play The Offshore Game and quickly disinvest to an entity based in the British Virgin Islands (seems to be the hot location for these types), the control of which could never be traced to him.
Those hoping the SFA will inhibit Ashley’s land-grab of retail and other rights are also likely to be disappointed. JJB and Wigan Athletic owner Dave Whelan established precedent that he was able to conclude extensive trading contract with other clubs while in charge of Wigan without compromising multi-ownership principles. Ashley can own and exploit all commercial rights of newco.
The key point Ashley will be concerned about in SFA rules is article 13. (3), which forbids persons from having “any power whatsoever to influence the management or administration of another club”.
The rules permit the SFA to grant Ashley permission to increase his shareholding but the phrase “any power whatsoever” is patently clear. Ashley cannot appoint board members or offer loan players.
The Dear Green Place
Yesterday’s uncertainty alarmed many in Glasgow but the reality of the news brought disaster to some. May God help each of them.
There’s always a spring in the step when news of our pal Kano arrives. That changed when I opened the email from Carolyn yesterday to hear Martin was in Intensive Care. We know through his time on the blog that Kano brought vigour and resolve to his life years before his illness struck. If anyone can overcome this, it’s him.
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Raspberry-correct, a pseudo politician, should have stuck to the singing HH
sipsini- halfers….:) enjoy
If you wanted to listen to good Celtic talk and virtually no mention of them, download the spreaker app, search for Hail Hail media,
tonight it is the Homebhoys, fantastic level headed talk about all things Celtic, and it is not a propaganda show.
Plus it’s free and legal. .
Somers’ emails being leaked now, will give him a week.
Was Ian “The Currant” Durrant demoted,
or was he liquidated and did he have to re-apply fur the joab
wi’ The Stiffs?
Chic? Awwy?……..Embdy….
Weeron
Yes they died. That fills me with glee.
I want justice for their cheating.
Looks like I ain’t going to get it as our custodians don’t have the balls to say anything .
sipsini
Congratulations!
Enjoy.
…but dont overdo the vino!
HH!!
Tim Malone. Fella you are correct truth is the casualty here not in my opinion wither Rangers survive or crash and burn. Celtic have in my opinion failed to take the support with them and many Celtic supporters may be ok with that but many are not. Some Celtic fans appear to not be bothered that we will be playing in Scottish football that has been cheating Celtic and the support for years they have had a chance to stand up for themselves and the support but have failed to do so.H.H..
Bada -we spoke about these the other day. See post from bhoyfromoz below. Bought one on Sunday using his link and got it today. Kids have watched a couple of movies already and sure it can do a lot more. Need to study form on Ethernet and broadband settings and investigate further but first impressions are it will pay for itself quickly………
thebhoyfromoz
17:57 on 21 December, 2014
kelvinbhoy
Bought the model shown in this link.
Great piece of kt that works straight out of the box.
I hook it up to the net with an ethernet cable which, coupled with my highspeed broadband, results in good quality buffer free sports channels, movies, tv etc.
If you are going to buy a droidbox, would recommend you buy from driodbox.co.uk and upgrade to a better remote than is packaged with the box.
https://droidbox.co.uk/droidbox-q7.html.
HH
tim malone will tell
20:01 on 23 December, 2014
Auldheid,
Celtic have a once only chance to redeem themselves in the eyes of the support. The inaugural meeting with RIFC (or whatever they are actually called) should be acknowledged as such by Celtic – there can be no second bite at that cherry.
Well said
This is from the minutes of the Forum Meeting.
‘Rangers FC and how this matter is being handled by Celtic. The Club highlight that there are matters which need to be managed privately and that this is one such instance, subsequently there will be no public statements on this matter. The Club make it clear that they have a responsibility to staff, fans and wider society and on this basis have no plans to say anything further on this matter.’
This isn’t as big an issue for me as it obviously is for some. I never expected Celtic to make any official comment on the new club.
Hereford United were last week liquidated for non-payment of tax and other bills.
Their fans are devastated and want to start a new club from the ashes of the liquidated club.
However both they and the English FA are very clear that any new phoenix club would have to start from the bottom of the football pyramid and is a new club that does not inherit or have any claim to any part of the history of Hereford United. So no bogus claims to have purchased the famous 1973 FA Cup victory over Newcastle United will be attempted or entertained.
Furthermore, they all recognise that the new club cannot buy, acquire or otherwise use the Hereford United name. So it looks like the new club, when it is formed, will be called Hereford FC.
http://www.herefordtimes.com/sport/11682876.Hereford_United_wound_up__Phoenix_club_could_be_called_Hereford_FC/
At the time of liquidation, Hereford United were one of the best supported clubs in the Southern League Premier Division. They also added a certain prestige to the league by dint of their history and tradition as a long standing member of the English football league.
However, none of the interdependent clubs who also play in the Southern League Premier Division sought to broker a fudge such as a five-way agreement to try to push through a Frankenstein version of Hereford to safeguard their individual financial interests.
Its an interesting contrast to the way these things are dealt with in Scotland. Sevco are only getting away with trying to claim entitlement to the trophies and history of Rangers because all senior Scottish football clubs, including Celtic, and the Scottish football authorities have allowed and want it to be so.
We could learn a lot about integrity from the Southern League Premier Division – the seventh tier of English football – and the English FA. These clubs are all as much dependent on each other as the Scottish clubs are, but they can do the right thing while we cannot.
HT
They should be making a statement on Oldco cheating though .
Expressing surprise at the LNS verdict just doesn’t do it
I am not certain what it is that is hurting some posters Is it Celtic`s failure to comment on The Rangers? Or on The Five Way Agreement? Or on the SPFL/SFA failure to make it clear that they are /are not a new Club?
Genuine questions. If I am clear about the problem, I will contact Celtic and ask for answers. As , indeed, I believe all who feel there is something specifically wrong should do.
JJ
JJ
For me it’s the fact we were systematically cheated by Oldco for years and that cheating has been overlooked on a technicality.
An Asterisk should be placed against all trophies won by that mob in the EBT years
Burghbhoy
Pretty much it.
If the hun had held their hands up when they went bust, said they were sorry, I reckon many would ahve accepted that.
They just couldn’t help themselfs could they, they had to play the bigot card, the blame everyone else card etc.
Feck them.
Sadly it’s not the support who run things, it’s suits who only care about the money.
I was one of those who said many moons ago the the main club to suffer from their corruption and cheating would be us, the support will walk away, the more the corruption and cheating comes to light, the more will give it up, and quite rightly imo, why pay to watch something that is rigged ?
I honestly have no that much bother about what the hun call themselfs, they are what they are, what I have a bother with is the bending over to the cheating officials, sort that out, they can cheat to their hearts content, it will make no odds to us, we always have been, and always will be the best football team in the land.
A level playing field is the starting point in any sport, it’s obviously too much to ask for in scotland.
HH
HH
burghbhoy
On that we agree.
weeron
20:16 on 23 December, 2014
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The idea that Rangers / Sevco , call them what you like , were going to disappear altogether like some modern day Third Lanark was never more or less than fantasy.
Once you accept that, a weakened , burst flush version of them ( which is , at best, what they are now and what they will continue to be for a long time to come ) is fine by me.
The suggestion that we could have put them completely to sword to the point of actual obliteration and have failed to do so is simply wrong as it was never , IMHO, within our power to do so.
Burghbhoy
19:35 on
23 December, 2014
So Celtic remained silent on the cheating and accepted Newco into the the bottom tier of Scottish Football to protect smaller clubs who would loose the bigot £.
Which clubs are we talking about?
Those in the bottom tier? League2 ?League 1?
Can’t accept that because the received no Hun money previously .
So it must be SPL teams?
Which? All appear to be in rude health, DUtd, Aberdeen and Kilnarnock are virtually debt free.
To me this is about Celtic and not the other teams .
The Old Firm appears to be alive and well
Ain’t it sickening?
We will never again have a better opportunity to expose the cheating.
We will regret this forever if we remain silent
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You seem to have totally missed the point. The other clubs in the top tier who might suffer were greater in number than Celtic eg Killie, Motherwell, Hibs, Dundee Utd etc all of them trying to get out of debt. They outnumber Celtic when it comes to a vote and it does. That is the nature of the arrangement with other clubs. It is a mutually beneficial one if clubs play by the rules.
You also had lower clubs seeing the bonus to them of a visit from Sevco.
You also appear to have missed my point its the amount of the money involved not the nature of it.
As I said in ignoring those factors we reinforce prejudices.
burghbhoy
“An Asterisk should be placed against all trophies won by that mob in the EBT years”
In my mind , and I’d suggest in the minds of many fans of Celtic and other clubs , there already is.
A huge one.
hamiltontim
20:33 on 23 December, 2014
I never expected Celtic FC to make a statement publicly and glad they have not. However, they would be damned if they did and damned if they don’t.
If they did make a comment the MSM would have a field day. I much prefer to say nothing and go about our business quietly.
Keep the Faith!
Hail Hail!
Burghbhoy
Thanks for the reply.
As far as I can see, though, that `technicality` prevents Celtic from saying anything significant. ie We have to accept the referee`s decision kind of thing. Even when we know he is wrong.
JJ
As Sevco Direct FC are requesting a relaxation / liberal interpretation of the SFA rule book regarding shareholding/ undue influence, does this not hand the football authorities a huge bargaining chip?
i.e. accept that the football entity is indeed a new club with all the ramifications, and we will consider your request favourably
Would seem the perfect opportunity to right a long outstanding wrong IMO
Interesting comment from Deila
Main interest in the transfer window is for consistency and to retain his best players
If what we are just now is considered consistent ….I’d hate to see inconsistency
Re retaining players …sounds like news management to me
So much for squad development ….Deila is obviously on message …
PL ….Master of the puppets
Metallicacsc
Not supporting the fans being victimised , not supporting the manager financially. Not taking on the sfa having a president not fit for purpose, not paying the living wage..
other than that the board are wonderful
I don’t expect Celtic to make public statements about RIFC either – but a few well chosen words by those in authority at CP in the build-up to February will go a long way towards setting the tone for both now and the future.
BT
But we do have a nice patio
Love
Good to see James Keatings scoring again tonight for the Hertz…..a great wee footballer.
Lennybhoy
Just what business re Sevco do we go about quietly
IMO …it’s a myth …to excuse inactivity and perhaps a desire for the Hun return …see DD
jmccormick
All Wishy bhoys are great at footy
BT
But….they do it very quietly :-))
Oh for an edit facility
HH
On a lighter note. Hearts currently (!) 12 points ahead of Sevco. Should Hibs beat Them on Saturday and the Jambos beat Livingstone later on, there will be an Administration of points between the two sides.
JJ
Auldheid
You are a fair and reasonable man .
You are also very intelligent and have my respect .
I admire your trying to explain the intricacies of how football works .
Maybe I’m a simpleton but I see things in more back and white terms.
Oldco cheated us… We say nowt .
The myth of one club is seemlessly accepted…. We say nowt……The SFA colluded with them.. We say nowt !!!!
No matter the niceties of football.
That to me is the unpalatable truth and as a club we should hang our head in shame
kelvinbhoy-glad the Driodbox has worked out, a better internet connection here and I will get one HH
Well, that’s me on leave now until 6 Jan ……. really looking forward to a wee rest from it all, although still ‘feeling’ for those poor, poor, fellow Glaswegians who died, or were injured.
May God rest their souls, and speed the recovery of the injured / families and friends in mourning….
hamiltontim
That surprises me.
The MSM will be in overdrive at the start of the year talking about Old Firm this and Old Firm that as if liquiidation never happened.
Rangers died. This is a successor club followed by the same support as the dead club. Until the day I die I will never recognise them as the same club. And I will never buy into their myth. It would make me a kiddy-on Celtic supporter happy to kid myself on for their sensitivities. Not for me.
JJ ‘an Administration of points between the two sides.’ You will need to copyright that one, VG :))