No one in football likes losing. When it happens, no one likes accepting the reality that they will lose again. That’s football. You and I didn’t want to lose the league in 2021. Celtic were able to do something about it – within safe margins of risk and the law – and spent money to arrest the situation.
But what if safe margins of risk are not sufficient? Do you jeopardise the club, sail close to the wind legally, lean on the government and police to get what you want? We saw what happened when there was a power struggle at Newco, the police instigated what was eventually established as wrongful prosecutions, costing the taxpayer over £50m and counting. We still see the blind eye the Scottish Government is turning to this scandal.
In Italy, the poster child of maleficence is at it again. Juventus, who were relegated for match fixing in 2006, are back in trouble. Their board resigned last night with questions hanging over the club’s recent financial statements.
The Turin club won nine league titles in a row before losing out in 2021 (I know!). Instead of taking their medicine, they employed accounting practices which led to yesterday’s resignations. Whatever plans were put in place failed. Finances were already disastrous, the club made a loss of €254m last season, a figure that seems likely to be revised up.
Juventus are owned by the Agnelli family. Andrea Agnelli, who was chairman until yesterday, is the great grandson of Gianni Agnelli, founder of Fiat. His grandfather Edoardo bought the club in 1923 and made it one of Italy and Europe’s most successful. The family have been remarkably successful in industrial, commercial and political life in Italy. There is a great Sky documentary film on Gianni, “Agnelli”, worth catching.
Those of us who like our sport clean will celebrate yesterday’s news. We must always be on our guard against the corrupt, who twist and bend the laws.
Speaking of the law, as we predicted earlier, Sydney Super Cup promoters, TEG Live and Left Field Live, have filed papers against Newco for £1.6m compensation for their withdrawal from the competition. Newco, upset and humiliated that Celtic’s commercial team negotiated a package around twice as high as theirs, withdrew under fan pressure. This not only denied them a nice payday, but they will also have to face down a fresh legal challenge, so soon after settling with Sports Direct and with Elite Group administrators on their case.
Newco’s termination apparently cited the lack of the phrase “Old Firm” in promotions for a game against Celtic. Celtic and Newco jointly own commercial rights to the phrase, an agreement Celtic came to in order to give us a veto on its use. Celtic, as they always do, vetoed any use of the term. “Own it and kill it”, is the strategy.
You will still find some people who try to mislead fans that Celtic’s co-ownership here demonstrates the club’s affinity for the term. Know who you are dealing with whenever you read this.
Maybe pick up on Newco’s new manager “Mick” tomorrow. They could have done worse, not that we should be worried.
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Why can’t our Green Brigade paint their faces and dance like the Senegalese?
1-1 game on
2-1 Senegal
When “thems” won the league , it really wasn’t how good they were, but how bad we were.
KINGLuBO
ron bacardi
Mmmm
TOM MCLAUGHLIN on 29TH NOVEMBER 2022 4:29 PM
Why can’t our Green Brigade paint their faces and dance like the Senegalese?
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They’re brilliant.
KINGLUBO on 29TH NOVEMBER 2022 4:40 PM
When “thems” won the league , it really wasn’t how good they were, but how bad we were.
KINGLuBO
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It was the whole package.
They scored the most goals in their short history, lost the least (13), got the most penalites for, with none against, benefited more from COVID non attendance at games ta any other club
They didnt lost a league game, only 6 draws,
We had our own failings for sure, but every other team didnt bother competing with them either.
TOM MCLAUGHLIN on 29TH NOVEMBER 2022 4:29 PM
Why can’t our Green Brigade paint their faces and dance like the Senegalese?
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Lets GLOSS over that one Tom.
LOL
Maybe too much EMULSION on show ?
HH Mate.
There’ll be a big rally in Dakar tonight!
SenegalCSC
KINGLUBO
When “thems” won the league , it really wasn’t how good they were, but how bad we were.
Any runner-up could say that about any winner in any league.
In fact Gers fans say it about our triumph last season.
Fitba Betting…
i had the Correct Score of 2 – 0 to The Netherlands against Qatar ‘ 6/1.
Good start so far…I’ll see how the two other games pan oot Tonight.
IF Engnurland TOP their Group, am I correct in thinking that they will play SENEGAL in the last 16 ?
IF so, I may paint my body in support of Senegal and dance aboot the hoose like a pure mad mental Senegalese person ?
Lets see, what did I do with those tins of GREEN, WHITE and GOLD Paint ?
LOL
HH
I just can NOT see Wales giving Engnurland too much trouble Tonight….although BOTH Teams are BORING to watch, thats why I will watch IRAN v USA……There MAY be a few Goals in THAT game…?
I also want to be as far away from those so called EXPERT Englunderland TV Pundits as possible….UNLESS WALES are WINNING ?
LOL
HH.
MON the TAFFs…
Never mind all the Feckin singing…..Just get oot there and get into Southgates Mob from the 1st whistle…..take no prisoners.
LOL
HH
MON the TAFFS and The YANKS…
USA v IRAN game is on BBC 2….For those who wish to stay clear of Engurland v Wales.
BIG JIMMY
You’re correct. Senegal will face the win ers of England’s group in the round of 16.
If Wales beat England by 4 goals Wales go through.
If USA and Iran draw, any victory over England will put Wales through.
Got a modest bet on Wales and England to draw.
I have no idea if Michael Beale will prove to be good manager for Sevco- 2nd time around. We should have learned our lesson from the reception to Ange Postecoglou, just to write people off, based on their recent record. Successful managers are not successful everywhere and poor managers sometimes find a good fit and can be temporarily effective.
This is just the phone war period. The guy hasn’t had a chance to do anything , dead bounce or sustained improvement, as yet. I would expect Sevco to remain competitive for a long time yet and, therefore, the league will remain competitive, regardless of what we do.
That being said, I agree with Tiny Tim, without improved finances, Beale can not turn things round in the long term. But- the return of Goldson or similar- aided by a few poached QPR youngsters might make them a tougher nut to crack than they have recently been. we should be able to tell which way the wind is blowing by early February next year.
Can’t wait for real football to begin again
Cameron Carter-Vickers starts for USA tonight.
“TOM MCLAUGHLIN on 29TH NOVEMBER 2022 5:58 PM
Cameron Carter-Vickers starts for USA tonight.”
So half the USA back four COULD be half Celtic`s back four come January?
HOT SMOKED
Not follwing you. Am I missing something?
Cameron Carpet- Slippers starts for USA🇺🇸
Could have had him for nothing, but they wanted a name, GVB let the cat out the bag when he said CL and ‘money’ was beyond them. The writing was on the wall from the moment of that press conference.
Difficult to see what Mick can do that an international player and experienced Eredivisie winner couldn’t do, he was certainly too nice for Sevco.
The length of contract to 2026 shows he’s not on megabucks. They’re already stalling in the slow lane, expect another Souttar Porteous type signing, they’ve shot their bolt, going for the ‘55 ‘.
That said, I’m delighted we’re 9 points better off , we’ll need them
“So half the USA back four COULD be half Celtic`s back four come January?”
eh?
TOM MCLAUGHLIN on 29TH NOVEMBER 2022 6:02 PM
Tom. No, you`re not missing anything but I am….. I forgot our potential right back is Canadian !!
My mistakes get a better response than my `ordinary` posts :-)))
What’s the betting that the BBC Scotland sports presenter is a Sevco Supporter Amie Irons
Hot Smoked
😂
The story of the demise of Juventus…
https://twitter.com/RJPJournalism/status/1597518032863363074?t=7bi93du3usfks8rkk5WbYA&s=08
Big Jimmy @2.44
That’s a cracker. It’s the way you tell them.
HH
Corruption Paul67.
Why are you calling it newco(mpany) ? < your part of narrative management is it Paul.its a new club Paul.
'You and I etc in 2021.' You and I had no say whatsoever Paul.Dermot did.He missed them spoke of their fantastic shatoot history,when in newco or oldco or mammys Co what ever corrupt labelling put in there,WE ARE CENTRE OF IT,
Selective memory combined with amnesia that leaves you forgetting your second name.
Please don't mention corruption until our part in it is explained .
WHY DOES THE FIVE WAY AGREEMENT EXIST?
Until that sordid core of corruption is outed our club are part of it.
You mention Juventus and sanction
What was the sanction for the cheating hun?
92.01 % of players illegally registered,no sanction.
Search parties have long stopped looking for mintys walking stick in dermots arse he as you know Paul is taking a longer view.
HH
In the last few days of GvB at Ibrox, Rangers were 9/1 for the league title. When he was sacked they came in to 8/1. They appointed Beale yesterday and are now 10/1.
Nice vote of confidence by the bookies.
BBC Scotland interviewing David Robertson as new Peterhead manager , spend nearly as much time asking him to comment on Beale to Sevco as they do asking him about Peterhead .
Morrocco are not an Arab country.They are an African country.
You could not wait to jump in trying to be a smart ass when I mentioned it,not as a fact,just to say the commentator was wrong when he called them,and Iran,Arab countries.Bringing in “Arab leagues”and Ethnic alliances,changes nothing.They are an African country,and its you making an arse of yourself,first,acknowledging the fact,then changing your mind.
They would be the 1st African country to win the World Cup.Arabs would get no mention.
noswaith dda
In the last few days of GvB at Ibrox, Rangers were 9/1 for the league title. When he was sacked they came in to 8/1. They appointed Beale yesterday and are now 10/1.
Nice vote of confidence by the bookies
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the bookies are seldom wrong
they can smell a dud from miles oot
To quote Neil McCann from saturdays shortbread, where he had a mini-meltdown
Dont tell me Rangers cant recover this, he (Beale) has to go in knowing that what he has to do, when the season returns is
beat Hibs at Ibrox, then Aberdeen and Ross County away, then Motherwell at home, you win all those and you go into the Celtic game no further behind, in fact (? how can it be a fact, something that has not happened) they could go into the game with Celtic having dropped points, so your closer, you then beat them , and you might only be 2 or 3 points behind now with 2 games more to play against them, so thats it, Beale has to set this as his target when he comes in ………….. it can be done, this is rangers we are talking about and all that means …………….
feckin nougat.
Rangers league wins this season – 66%.
Celtic league wins this season – 93%.
maybe big ange will hear this and go looking for another easier job.
Celtic and Newco jointly own commercial rights to the phrase, an agreement Celtic came to in order to give us a veto on its use. Celtic, as they always do, vetoed any use of the term. “Own it and kill it”, is the strategy.
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Get the logic and arithmetic Paul.
Own 50% of the commercial rights and you can veto to your heart’s content.
Not sure though why we didn’t try to buy the other 50% from Charles Green quietly.
And shut this nonsense down in its entirety?
Juventus, or Rubentus from Rubare meaning to steal