CQN memorial, anti-Moneyball, FAC

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CQNers are a new type of community.  We mostly, though not always, share interests but we are anchored in commons values.  The achievements of the community are incredible.  We’ve made friends, some of whom are no longer with us and who shared their darkest hours on these pages, while others were lost in an instant.

Those lost friends now have a memorial stone outside Celtic Park, a credit to their memory.  Thanks to all who contributed.

You and I have been talking Moneyball for six years.  We’ve been convinced of the merits since then, most of the world is now, so it’s gratifying to know a manager would rather lose his job than succumb to the new orthodoxy.  Very brave of Mark Warburton, he has the makings of an ideal Newco manager.

Last week I wrote that I expected Newco to appoint Stuart McCall as permanent manager.  He was a reliable choice, had taken Motherwell to two consecutive second place SPL finishes, knew the task, had spent years scrapping around for free transfers and, let’s face it, is a ‘Real Rangers Man’.  I would not have looked past him.

Warburton managed Brentford for two years, winning promotion in the first and taking them to the play-off semi-finals in April, but Brentford is the story of owner, Matthew Benham, who has invested close to £50m in the club.  Warburton is fortunate to find two consecutive owners intent on spending £50m living the dream…….  you do have the money for him, Dave, don’t you?

Fans Against Criminalisation issued this statement yesterday:

“Our view is that from the outset, despite the claims from the then First Minister, Alex Salmond, that he ‘wished to build consensus’ the only support that the government has managed to attract for the Act is that of the Police Service of Scotland and the only consensus that is being built is that of the opposition to this dreadful, unworkable and pernicious legislation.

Their claim of public support for the Act is based on figures which show that people want action on sectarianism and not specifically that they support this Act.  They also conveniently ignore the fact that the overwhelming majority of sectarian offences (ie those with religious aggravation) do not take place in football grounds [http://www.gov.scot/resource/0042/00424865.pdf].  In addition, many of the incidents for which people have been charged under the Act are unrelated to sectarianism.

We deplore:

•             The action of the Scottish Government in giving off-the-record press briefings alleging that the Act will stay in place. This undermines the integrity of the Review process and the role of Parliament and its members.

•             The use of the statistics from a highly skewed YouGov poll commissioned by the government to mislead the public.

•             The continued reference by the Government to the Stirling research as being the ‘Review’ which the legislation requires them to have is an attempt to prevent the full and transparent examination of the Act which the public in general, and football fans in particular, expect and are entitled to.  These claims are made despite a statement issued by the University of Stirling on Friday (12/6/15) afternoon that the work produced by their team is not ‘the review’ and their work cannot be interpreted as ‘an endorsement of the Act’.

We note:

•             The conviction rate for this Act over the whole period of its existence is standing at 22%. This compares with a conviction rate for rape (itself notoriously low)  in 2013-14 of 41%

•             The scale of the resource devoted to enforcing this Act (including a specialised unit of the police service) which necessarily diverts finances and manpower from the detection and prosecution of more serious offenders.

We pledge:

•             To continue to oppose this legislation by all peaceful means until it is repealed.

We call on the Government to listen to football fans; to listen to those whose lives have been drastically affected by a piece of legislation which is a stain on the justice system of Scotland.”

We have the most right-wing left-wing government in history.

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  1. Billy bear…

     

     

    Let’s not kid ourselves, although I take my hat off to you posting and defending your new club, this is what your club done during the years of corruption that eventually brought the grim reaper to your door….

     

     

    http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/exclusive-signing-mo-johnston-was-mischief-1030214

     

     

    Ps… Who do you hold responsible for the death of your club?

     

     

    If I was in your brogues I’d be blaming Sdm. HH and that is a Hail Hail;))

  2. sixtaeseven - Gardez la Foi on

    Just reading through CQN whilst waiting on the EGM result – ha ha, we won’t see that today!

     

     

    The phrase of the day relating to Weir and Weirder to must be “Hunmoungous task”.

  3. clogher celt on

    Connaire 12,

     

     

    Re your post at 0921, on the previous thread.

     

     

    I did some rooting earlier. I don’t think your grandmother’s story was a Tall Tale.

     

    It would seem (if it is the same McCann’s) that Roger Mc Cann was the pilot that rowed D’Arcy McGee to the waiting boat on 1st September 1848.

     

    There seems to still be Mc Cann’s in Culdaff.

     

     

    Have a look at the link below.

     

     

    http://www.geocaching.com/geocache/GC534BT_tremone-bay

     

     

    Clogher

  4. Tim reaper – I wonder if he knows anyone who could get them listed on the markets or find them a NOMAD? Maybe he’s gonna double job..

     

     

    The farce gets more farcical by the day….

  5. thetimreaper on

    roberttressell

     

     

    Heard Doddy Weir say at the presser that one of his strengths was that he had a business background and could help with that side of the club. Wtf?

  6. The hand of God on

    For the avoidance of doubt i signed the petition Hamiltontim put on the blog against the OB bill my earlier post was suggesting that i understand why lots of people who do not attend football would view this bill as entirely reasonable.

  7. Just seen the news there, warburton couldn’t even get the door right and it was opened for him haha what a clown

  8. 67Heaven .. CHALLENGING THE LIE ..I am wee Oscar...... Ipox belongs to the creditors on

    leftclicktic

     

     

    18:12 on 15 June, 2015

     

     

    I also laughed (out loud) when wart-button was trying to enter another room when they opened the door for him …. Hahahahahahaha

  9. thetimreaper

     

     

    18:47 on 15 June, 2015

     

     

    Multi-tasking mate, a manager who can run the team and the clubs finances at the same time. He’s that good, Ronny washes the windows at lennoxtown after training HH

  10. Lefty

     

     

    Great news about your Ma.

     

     

    As for them being gullibilly, I reckon 99.9% of them are, the other .1% are mocked for not conforming, feck them, they deserve everything that’s coming.

     

     

    HH

  11. 67heaven .. challenging the lie ..i am wee oscar…… ipox belongs to the creditors

     

     

    18:53 on 15 June, 2015

     

     

    Think he realised it is a mistake and was making a run for it but left it to late :-)

  12. TheOriginalSadiesBhoy on

    Chicagobhoy

     

     

    In the early 1990s the Scottish Mainstream Media set the tone for Rangers supporters to have a go at us by forensically revealing the troubles that beset the Club. We were ridiculed daily about being £6million in debt and about the various proposed plans to rebuild Celtic Park. One of these proposals involved a plan to rebuild the stadium in Cambuslang. It was revealed that the proposed site Had been polluted by toxic waste …….. Cue more hilarity. We were referred to as “the beggars” by Rangers fans who relished our plight.

     

     

    The key difference between then and now is that Celtic survived. We didn’t go into administration nor were we liquidated. That is why Rangers supporters were only able to enjoy a certain level of merriment at our discomfiture. In 2012, Rangers went into administration and failed to come out of it and as a consequence were liquidated. We continue to revel in their plight because of the way we were treated back in the 90s. Our merriment is unrestrained and knows no bounds. Karma, what goes around, comes around etc.

     

     

    Ignore the deluded Billy Bear and his fairy tales.

  13. mr pastry….

     

     

    I’m not really into politics, listening to my kids 17/19 the SNP seem to have captured their vote.

     

     

    I’ve voted Labour all my life but until they can find a Leader of the party that can unite the young/old working classes…..they’re fecked and the rats will run parliament to suit the south.

     

     

    It’s going to be a long hurtful road ahead of us.

  14. Wonder if the asked Warburton which school he attended, interesting. I reckon he’s in it for the dough myself

     

     

    KINGLuBO

  15. Bilybear – leave out your Hun pish regards Fergus McCann.

     

     

    The Bunnet introduced the economic policy that would lead to your extinction; Murray was nothing but a silver-spoon, one-dimensional chancer, good only at deluding media and bank managers with techniques widely used at that time of borrowing on inflated paper-values which could not withstand the reality of the marketplaces.

     

     

    Rangers FC was a vehicle to facilitate that delusion, gullible Huns like yourself fell for it hook, line, and succulent lamb, developing crushes on Murray and Souness and any other overpaid gonk who ‘jetted’ in. That ‘air of Protestant superiority’ was a rank stench of corruption, tax evasion and goat-pumping.

     

     

    30 years on, revisionism doesn’t work because the proof has been in the pudding, and Celtic are lapping up the treats while you Zombies aptly attempt to rise from the dead to stumble onto the next grave, currently being dug for you by another hard-working genuine -billionaire businessman who has his financial head screwed on in very much the no-nonsense McCann fashion.

     

     

    Rangers were a club of facade – no Hun under 40 really knows what Rangers truly are; everything since 1986 until extinction in 2012, and the Sevco event to date, built on lies, promises and sleight-of-hand, underfunded, overborrowed, straw-man economics.

     

     

    There is no ‘Rangers’, because since Murray bought over a failing entity in 86, ‘Rangers’ has been an illusion.

     

     

    To get back to anything that can be grounded as ‘Rangers’ the bones must be stripped bare and the Big Hoose razed to ashes. Right now, every Hun is perpetrating a lie they know at the back of their mind to be so: The nagging reality of empty coffers, unsustainable debt, and barren future.

     

     

    To really have a club worth follow-following there has to be humility from the Orcs, condemnation of flawed anachronistic orthodoxy, and a willingness to accept the only way forward is to start from scratch and attempt to imitate the model set by the only club to thrive in these strained economic times with a sustainable business and footballing ethic that works in spite of their envirnment; Glasgow Celtic.

     

     

    But many others like you, Billybear, will No Surrender that bitter truth to the grave.

  16. With each passing day CQN seems to irrevocably transform itself from a Celtic FC blog into a SNP love* / hate* fest (*delete where applicable). Now I enjoy a wee bit of the oul political debating myself but the constant regurgitating of tired pro* / anti* ScotsNat rhetoric is very tedious.

  17. sipsini

     

    18:35 on

     

    15 June, 2015

     

    Billy bear

     

     

    http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/exclusive-signing-mo-johnston-was-mischief-1030214

     

     

    Ps… Who do you hold responsible for the death of your club?

     

     

    If I was in your brogues I’d be blaming Sdm. HH and that is a Hail Hail;))

     

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    I`m sure Jock Stein must take partial responsibility for the (near) death of Rangers. He may not have pulled the trigger, but he sure as hell loaded the gun.

  18. the battered bunnet

     

     

    17:44 on 15 June, 2015

     

     

    In other words, it’s a hobby for him!

     

     

    A nice bank account behind him and if he fails, which, with the lacking of funds is more than likely, he’ll walk away.

     

     

    Sally and his cohorts will more than likely still be getting paid when he bolts..:)

  19. I am attending a conference at the Hurlingham Club this week. An insight into how the other half live, and I want none of it. Croquet is a load of…

     

     

    Anyway, what’s been happening today? Is everything still marvellous/terrible? Delete as appropriate

  20. Billybear know that his beloved Rangers died with liquidation and is consoling himself with a tribute act.

  21. leftclicktic on

    Sleekit ally who is still taking £16k a week off the new club every week in 1994 said on Celtics financial problems ” Its not my business but I cant say I’m not enjoying it”

     

    well sleekit & yer Gullibilles I am flippin loving every second of yer pain especially the bit yer club liquidated, deed nada triggers broom wahahahahahahahahaha.

     

    Ohh and I dont know a fellow supporter who feels different.

     

    Good night all

  22. glendalystonsils on

    To think that SDM was knocked back by( Kilmarnock?) before attaching himself like a tapeworm to the team then known as ‘Rangers’, thus setting in motion a series of events which would end in death for them and untold mirth for Tims everywhere.

     

     

    Funny old game, eh?

  23. glenda

     

     

    SDM was knocked back by the mighty Ayr United, his hometown club.

     

     

    They obviously knew what he was like way back then.

     

     

    HH!!

  24. tallybhoy

     

     

    19:33 on 15 June, 2015

     

    glenda

     

     

    SDM was knocked back by the mighty Ayr United, his hometown club.

     

     

    They obviously knew what he was like way back then.

     

     

    HH!!

     

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    The shame of it all! He sure showed them though and totally got the last laugh…

  25. Fantastic gesture on the stone, if that doesn’t bring a tear to your eye, nothing will.

     

     

    The bill is an abomination and in no small measure represents the inevitable result of the once wobbly nanny state- the police state. Read Aldous Huxley’s Brave New World, then follow it up by studying his follow up Brave New World Revisited. He had the measure of our present society decades ago.

     

     

    So who is responsible? Well, we are of course. We have let it happen right in front of our eyes. While we enthuse orgasimically over the next series on telly, or the next computer game. “They” are hard at work while we sleep to ensure civil liberties shall soon represent but

     

    a fond memory.

     

     

    Slave in our corporations, then in turn give that money back to us to eat, shelter yourself and clothe your children. We are low on quality, but high in consumption. It’s a great racket if you are a member of the club.

     

     

    Paranoid? We not paranoid enough.

     

     

    Hmm, where have we hear that one before?

  26. saltires en sevilla on

    clogher celt 00:57 on 15 June, 2015

     

     

    Saltires,

     

     

    I hope I catch you. Have you read about Thomas D’Arcy McGee from Carlingford?

     

     

    Sorry if you already know.

     

     

    There is a statue to him in Carlingford.

     

     

    He was assinated in Ottawa.

     

     

    HH

     

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    Interesting – checked out basic info.

     

     

    Is he connected to you?

     

     

    My Great, great, great grandparents had their youngest son in Carlingford Parish c1845.

     

     

    Their eldest were born in 1820’s and married in Tullylish Co Down before heading to Renfrewshire.

     

     

    HH

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