CQNers are a new type of community. We mostly, though not always, share interests but we are anchored in commons values. The achievements of the community are incredible. We’ve made friends, some of whom are no longer with us and who shared their darkest hours on these pages, while others were lost in an instant.
Those lost friends now have a memorial stone outside Celtic Park, a credit to their memory. Thanks to all who contributed.
You and I have been talking Moneyball for six years. We’ve been convinced of the merits since then, most of the world is now, so it’s gratifying to know a manager would rather lose his job than succumb to the new orthodoxy. Very brave of Mark Warburton, he has the makings of an ideal Newco manager.
Last week I wrote that I expected Newco to appoint Stuart McCall as permanent manager. He was a reliable choice, had taken Motherwell to two consecutive second place SPL finishes, knew the task, had spent years scrapping around for free transfers and, let’s face it, is a ‘Real Rangers Man’. I would not have looked past him.
Warburton managed Brentford for two years, winning promotion in the first and taking them to the play-off semi-finals in April, but Brentford is the story of owner, Matthew Benham, who has invested close to £50m in the club. Warburton is fortunate to find two consecutive owners intent on spending £50m living the dream……. you do have the money for him, Dave, don’t you?
Fans Against Criminalisation issued this statement yesterday:
“Our view is that from the outset, despite the claims from the then First Minister, Alex Salmond, that he ‘wished to build consensus’ the only support that the government has managed to attract for the Act is that of the Police Service of Scotland and the only consensus that is being built is that of the opposition to this dreadful, unworkable and pernicious legislation.
Their claim of public support for the Act is based on figures which show that people want action on sectarianism and not specifically that they support this Act. They also conveniently ignore the fact that the overwhelming majority of sectarian offences (ie those with religious aggravation) do not take place in football grounds [http://www.gov.scot/resource/0042/00424865.pdf]. In addition, many of the incidents for which people have been charged under the Act are unrelated to sectarianism.
We deplore:
• The action of the Scottish Government in giving off-the-record press briefings alleging that the Act will stay in place. This undermines the integrity of the Review process and the role of Parliament and its members.
• The use of the statistics from a highly skewed YouGov poll commissioned by the government to mislead the public.
• The continued reference by the Government to the Stirling research as being the ‘Review’ which the legislation requires them to have is an attempt to prevent the full and transparent examination of the Act which the public in general, and football fans in particular, expect and are entitled to. These claims are made despite a statement issued by the University of Stirling on Friday (12/6/15) afternoon that the work produced by their team is not ‘the review’ and their work cannot be interpreted as ‘an endorsement of the Act’.
We note:
• The conviction rate for this Act over the whole period of its existence is standing at 22%. This compares with a conviction rate for rape (itself notoriously low) in 2013-14 of 41%
• The scale of the resource devoted to enforcing this Act (including a specialised unit of the police service) which necessarily diverts finances and manpower from the detection and prosecution of more serious offenders.
We pledge:
• To continue to oppose this legislation by all peaceful means until it is repealed.
We call on the Government to listen to football fans; to listen to those whose lives have been drastically affected by a piece of legislation which is a stain on the justice system of Scotland.”
We have the most right-wing left-wing government in history.
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Forgot to say, it is a reply.
Reading all these puns regarding sevcos new manager reminds of the story Bobby Murdoch told about Bertie Auld’s comment on the British Army vehicle whilst walking through Belfast.
One of the funniest things I’ve ever heard in my life.
Had to laugh at the media portraying Mark Warbuton as a YOUNG progressive manager when some folk I know are taking early retirement at his age!
what page is it for BEN NEVIS photos please.
balornock bhoy
where in BALORNOCK?????
Favourite Uncle- not any more but one of the few who attended The Albert! Parents still there though.
balornock bhoy
dulsie rd for me off northgate rd.
I’ve wanted to ask this question for a while: When Celtic faced financial uncertainty, how did Rangers supporters treat the circumstance? What did you face?
I’m relatively new here, so I have no knowledge of this sort of history. It was a different time, of course, in terms of the internet and social media.
Any ice hockey fans out there? The city is on edge — tonight, the mighty Chicago Blackhawks can win their third Stanley Cup in six years. In our salary cap era, that’s a dynasty.
Annually, they wear these beautiful jerseys on St. Patrick’s Day (I thought you might enjoy):
http://blackhawks.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=757929
I know it well. Links Acredyke with Northgate Quad. Not many houses in that road. Old teacher of mine from Balornock Primary lived around the corner, Mrs Paul. Liked her, not so fond of her man who liked a wee march in the summer months!!
an tearmann…
I’m not sure of her name and wouldn’t post it if I did, I’ll ask my my mate and when I catch a pint with you I’ll disclose it ;))
Seeing online comments referring to SDOW, found out it means Sir David of Weir, what’s all that about ??? ….
Good to see all the monkeys happy today, makes it even funnier when the next calamity hits them….
NatKnow
FAC deserve great credit in helping to create a broad opposition to the Act and deserve support in continuing to oppose it all the way through to next year’s Scottish elections. On a related matter, the Morrow report was submitted to Edinburgh in December 2013, with the final report only published as recently as April 2015, and the Scottish government’s response just a couple of weeks back. Both are unsatisfactory of course, as is the reliance on the University of Stirling’s “review” of the legislation. An abuse of power in Edinburgh leading to an abuse of power in Glasgow.
TET…
The huns in the work had a champagne party on the back of GSL gaining control, photos sent to me of their celebrations….
Lifesabitch…huns.com ;)))))
Celtic Mac
16:36 on
15 June, 2015
NatKnow
FAC deserve great credit in helping to create a broad opposition to the Act and deserve support in continuing to oppose it all the way through to next year’s Scottish elections. On a related matter, the Morrow report was submitted to Edinburgh in December 2013, with the final report only published as recently as April 2015, and the Scottish government’s response just a couple of weeks back. Both are unsatisfactory of course, as is the reliance on the University of Stirling’s “review” of the legislation. An abuse of power in Edinburgh leading to an abuse of power in Glasgow.
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Agreed – FAC is doing a great job of highlighting this flawed legislation. The problem they have is the brick wall that’s facing them. The Scottigh government have no intention of making changes to this leglislation and are happy to manipulate messages to the general public that allow them to say it’s a success. However, I hope this doesn’t put FAC off. I noticed some of the disappointment Hamiltontim expressed in terms of the numbers signing the petition etc. People are very much misinformed on the issue I believe – hence their reluctance to sign up to opposing something that’s being presented as a solution to sectarianism.
chicagobhoy1967….
I might come across on here as a hun hater, I’m not I empathise with them…
My erchie…the bassas broke into my locker when they won a cheating nine in a row and basterdised a photo of my one year old daughter.
I have ridiculed them constantly since the death of their club/institution.
As for when we nearly went to the wall, the Dailyrecord sent a hearse up to Celtic park, make of that what you will…feck them.HH
chicagobhoy1967
Annually, they wear these beautiful jerseys on St. Patrick’s Day (I thought you might enjoy):
http://blackhawks.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=757929
very nice
HH
Regarding the offensive behaviour at football bill whilst taking on board that it does seem to be aimed at “evening up” i can understand why the general public ‘most of whom would believe that it is aimed at ridding football of sectarianism, would be in agreement with the bill.At the risk of being shot down in flames would it not be a good idea of our fans to stop singing songs about the IRA and concentrate on singing songs in support of Celtic.Whilst at away games quite frankly i cringe at some of the songs that are sung and i know i am not alone in thinking this.My mother was from Belfast and was firebombed from her home as a young girl so i aint adverse to a rebel song or two but not at football grounds not in this day and age.
sipsini
As for when we nearly went to the wall, the Dailyrecord sent a hearse up to Celtic park, make of that what you will…feck them.HH
absobloodylutely………:-))
HH
Looks like I’ve timed my holiday perfectly with a songs debate just about to kick off….:-)
NatKnow
People are very much misinformed on the issue I believe – hence their reluctance to sign up to opposing something that’s being presented as a solution to sectarianism.
Agree with you with this point …….. wouldnt you think people would want to be informed instead of making decisions on one sided statements …….
informed reasoning I could understand but accepting these gross misinterpretations is sickening
HH
sipsini
Fuds, deluded fools.
After a few years of getting shafted by conmen and charlatens, the likes of GASH is a hero to them FFS, little do they know, well some do, thankfully most don’t, and the msm will keep it that way.
Imagine back in the day someone like warbly-warbers-warbo, they like their names, getting appointed, aye the shafting has taken it’s toll, magic.
HH
Any news on the EGM vote……..??
Bread and butter football in the championship next season,.
I will be supporting Morton’s rolls to beat Warburton’s ootsiders every week.
Think we’ve all got this sevco management appointment wrong to me it looks like a progressive move by the ibrox club….
Got rid of a manager who got skelped 6-1 in a play-off and replaced him with one who got skelped 5-1, that’s progression Hun style HH
The hand of God @1647
I dont like some of the songs sung either but still believe this piece of legislation is wrong
HH
dena29…
My daughters boyfriend got home from the game yesterday, dying with a hangover. I’ve now acquired a green top hat and a fridge magnet.
The magnet will be added to my Celtic collage in work….It has in bold print FENIANS with “Erin go Bragh” at the bottom, do you reckon it will go down well;))
Til later bhoys am away to make the tea
HH
Took a quick swatch at Warburton’s time a Brentford, and prior to that.
Interesting bloke. No playing career to speak of, stopping playing after a couple of seasons at non-league Borehamwood, aged 26, having played for at non-league Enfield 28 times over 4 years prior to that.
Spent 20 years as a currency trader, pocketed a tidy bundle and chucked it aged 40.
He had coached the local school team for a while when working full time, before joining the pre-16 group at Watford as a coach. One thing led to another, and he spent 4 years as pre16 Academy manager/ 17-19assistant, leaving in 2010.
At this point he’s never played league football, and never coached adult footballers.
He left Watford in 2010 and set up the ‘NextGen’ competition, which might well have worked had UEFA not decided to rip the idea off. Meantime, he got a gig as 1st team coach at Brentford in Feb 2011 via NextGen investor and Brentford owner Matthew Benham, who had just fired the Brentford management team.
This was Warburton’s first role coaching adults.
Come the summer, he was ‘moved upstairs’ as Sporting Director when Brentford appointed Uwe Rosler as manager. His major achievement seems to have been to sign 7 players from the Watford youth Academy he’d left the year before.
When Rosler skyed the park in Dec 2013, Warburton got the manager’s job, and he made David Weir No2 – Weir had been sacked after losing 9/13 games in charge of Sheff Utd.
He did well, and got them promoted from L1 to the Championship at the end of that season.
The following season, he managed them to joint 5th place in the Championship, which is a very respectable performance by most measures, with many better resourced clubs trailing Brentford.
Looking at the players he’s signed, there are 12 of them during his one full season as manager. They are almost all Academy graduates who haven’t made the grade at bigger clubs, or those who have made the grade at smaller clubs. The 2 exceptions were 35 year old Tommy Smith from Cardiff who played the whole season as a sub, and 28 year old Nick Proschwitz who was bumped out on loan in January.
That’s about it.
Never played senior football.
Coached the school team.
Made money trading other people’s money.
Did some youth coaching at Watford.
Set up the NextGen competition.
Coached Brentford’s 1st team for 4 months.
Brentford’s Director of Football for 2.5 years.
Brentford’s manager for 78 games over 18 months.
Won promotion. Got to the play offs next season.
Signs lots 19-21 year old players from other Academy teams.
Hasn’t worked with anyone at a high level the game.
He doesn’t seem to have a great deal of adult football experience, 100 odd non-league games as a player in the 80s, and 100 matches at Brentford as coach or manager recently, plus 10 years coaching the kids.
Basically, he’s a self-taught football manager.
A curious appointment. Gives hope to the rest of us armchair Championship Managers.
ggh
Lidls stopped selling Mortons rolls and tatty scones abt 3 months ago. Big mistake!! The replacements a rotten!!
But I get ur drift!!!
a = are
TBB..
In other words, he is an expert on FIFA pro soccer on the play station ;)
sipsini
16:42
I hoped you weren’t hasty in deleting them. There may be years of pleasure ahead with this gift horse
o.g.rafferty…
All saved, as I knew it would come back to haunt them zombies;))
How went the voting at the Govan EGM? Hopefully, Mr Ashley lost hands down.
Parkheadcumsalford
16:12 on
15 June, 2015
White on SKY prostrating himself at the foot of the Marble Staircase. Overjoyed at their having a new manager and Weir as back up.
I did say earlier,it would be in their somewhere.
A murder scene?.
The appointment of Mark Warchestburton could be the final piece in the ole jigsaw that finally, finally leads the plucky impecunious Sevconians to glory in the Petrofac Cup.
chicagobhoy1967
16:30 on
15 June, 2015
I’ve wanted to ask this question for a while: When Celtic faced financial uncertainty, how did Rangers supporters treat the circumstance? What did you face?
I’m relatively new here, so I have no knowledge of this sort of history. It was a different time, of course, in terms of the internet and social media.
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From what I can recall, one or two people were enjoying it, but the vast majority of Rangers fans and management felt deep sympathy for our friends across the city. I think it may have been Sir David (anonymously) who initially got in touch with Fergus McCann to alert him to the difficulties facing Celtic. Fergus didn`t have the money to fund the revolution, but SDM managed to broker a loan deal between Bank of Scotland and Fergus, and the rest is history, as they say. Maybe not 143 yrs of history, but history nonetheless. Rangers needed a strong (but not TOO strong) Celtic, and most of the fans agreed. I feel the same sentiments should be applied in this reverse predicament. Let`s be entirely honest here, Rangers have been punished enough. Let`s have a return to the cross city rivalry that Scottish football needs.
Dontbrattbakkinanger
We still haven’t won it, sack the board…