Despite success, current European levels are not stable for Celtic

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In 11 days we will know our potential opponents for the first and second Champions League qualification rounds.  While earning the money available for Champions League qualification is the overriding priority, we also need Uefa coefficient points.

Should they progress, Celtic will be seeded for each of the four qualifying rounds, but they are in position to be bottom of the seed: five points below second bottom PSV Eindhoven, and four above unseeded APOEL Nicosia.

Our place in fourth spot in future years depends on who else qualifies and how successfully we replenish our stock of coefficient points.  We earned eight points from our Champions League/Europa League endeavours last season, with a six point season due to drop off next year.

Eight points from one season is a baseline for teams who wish to be seeded in the champions route, but it is difficult to imagine even a modest improvement without a significant pick-up in performances.  Chances of us winning two or more games in the group stage feel no more likely than the chances of us winning none, or of finishing bottom of the group stage – equal to our seeding.

The dirty wee secret of European football progress should be acknowledged.  Teams from small nations find it nearly impossible to progress through the group stage every year, much like on the international stage when betting on the World Cup, but those who manage to get there more seasons than not, tend to have financially difficult season, where they fail to qualify for the Champions League, but earn a significant haul of points in the Europa League, making subsequent campaigns a little easier.

Despite the general invincibility of the team domestically, I suspect the current levels of achievement in Europe are not stable.  We will have to improve, or there will be a season of retrenchment.

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  1. ¶ Rule Brittania, yer marmalade and jam

     

    with yer long red coats, and yer feather

     

    in yer cap, and yer guns and yer drums

     

    bang! bang! ¶

     

    Viva la Argentina’s real Rebels for refusing

     

    to play in Israel HH

     

    Cue the SFA arranging a gemme o’er in the oul

     

    Israel, and picking awe the Cellic players.

     

    Whit would the club dae?

     

    WEEBAWBABITTY, when yer on the right, you’ll

     

    no be answered, Amigo, lurking is better ;

     

    Although, every noo and again, the notion takes

     

    o’er n makes ye douse a double decker bus in petrol

     

    set it alight, drive it ontae the post comment button

     

    and……press!

     

    Jist like the aulden days CSC ;

     

    Take care Ed. HH

     

    …….oot.

     

    Zzzzzzzzzz

  2. Jimmynotpaul on

    DALLAS DALLAS WHERE THE HECK IS DALLAS on 9TH JUNE 2018 10:18 PM

     

    Jimmynotpaul, Pollok beat Glasgow Perthshire 2 1 today so a Cumbernauld Pollok Central League Cup Final is on.

     

    Perthshire ended up with nine men.

     

     

    Thanks J.

     

    Cumbernauld have tweeted, as you say, in a later message, final on Thursday but a bit like Pollok haven’t given a venue.

     

    They said they are running a bus though.

     

    So, a magical mystery tour, to probably,Shettleston.

     

    Hail Hail

  3. Delaneys Dunky on

    Good morning from sunny Belfast. What a day I had yesterday in the company of some great Celtic men and women. Friesdorfer and I are heading out to mass at Saint Mary’s Belfast at 10am. Hope to see a few guys from CQN at the beautiful Church.

     

    YNWA

  4. Good morning good ghuys and ghirls from a dry Garngad

     

     

    DD hope you and everyone else who made the Hoot, have a ball in Belfast.???

     

     

    Hail Hail

     

     

    D. :)

  5. Taurangabhoy on

    Kevj viva la Argentina real rebels

     

     

    Argentina Legally Recognizes a Neo-Nazi’s New Political Party

     

     

    European immigration to Argentina in the early 20th Century helped foster a sense of “white identity” that underlies racism in Argentine society today.’

     

     

    No surprise then. Not just Huns that are gullible.

     

     

    I believe that Israel has a right to defend itself. I do not condone Israel’s excessive use of force against civilians.

     

     

    Hail Hail

     

     

    Taurangaboy

  6. Taurangabhoy on

    Bournesouprecipe I miss the antipodean moonhowlers. Kitalba, GoldCoastTom, 001 and Macjay.

     

     

    Have to say MelbourneMick is the mhan but nowhere near as crazy as the old school moonhowlers.

  7. As the transfer window slams open this weekend let’s have a look back to the days of the pi@hing section of the ole Jungle;

     

     

    Billy McNeil ( only one King )

     

     

    Signings;

     

     

    1980/81

     

    None !!!!!

     

     

    1981/82

     

    Willie Garner (Aberdeen) – July 1981 £50,000

     

     

    1982/83

     

    Graeme Sinclair (Dumbarton) – July 1982 £60,000

     

     

    £49.00 CSC

  8. Who are we selliñg today,

     

    And

     

    Who are we buying ?

     

    Even if for nothing ?? on a freebie

  9. Neustadt-Braw on

    BOURNESOUPRECIPE on 10TH JUNE 2018 9:15 AM

     

     

    What happened to the CQN moonhowling nightshift?

     

    ……..

     

    it got brawderated..

     

     

    unsmiley thing

     

     

    Braw

  10. Neustadt-Braw on

    TAURANGABHOY

     

     

    aye …certainly derated….was a laugh whilst it lasted…

     

     

    Braw

  11. Neustadt laughing makes the World go round. CQN certainty goes through the roller coaster of emotions over the years, especially in the close season. Plenty of howling. Spain or Brazil for the World Cup.

  12. GlassTwoThirdsFull on

    Just when you think the MSM can’t get any worse, now they have Brendan off to Leicester!

     

    Do they actually believe what they write? Or are they just so desperate for us to fail that they don’t care? Clowns!

  13. Neustadt-Braw on

    Germany is the tournament team….

     

     

    will start with Iceland…

     

     

    smiley wee team syndrome thing

     

     

    Braw.

  14. Brendan to some no hoppers,changes to a double P when I put the comma in,Lol,no transfer news,everything going swimmingly across the city,click bait sites telling me we have had a disastrous June (dear God),KEV spouting gibberish,that even for him,is off the radar,crap.

     

    Oh well,Beach again.Getting sick of the sight of it.

     

    Have fun.

  15. Everybody knows the eight World Cup-winning countries, but can you, yes, you, name the 9 countries who have been losing finalists?

  16. Beatbhoy

     

     

    Uruguay

     

    Italy

     

    Germany

     

    Brazil

     

    France

     

    Spain

     

    Holland

     

    Hungary

     

    Sweden

     

     

    HH

  17. Dbhoy

     

     

    That wee country, but determined lot, Uruguay, has a 100% winning record in finals, 2/2 I believe.

     

     

    Unlucky! (You, not them!)

  18. Uruguay, inaugural winners in 1930, and then had the temerity to silence the Maracana as they came from behind to beat the host nation in 1950.

     

     

    Some impact they’ve had on the World Cup for a country with a smaller population than Scotland.

  19. Connor Goldson is jetting in to sign his deal!!!

     

     

    It’s becoming farcical the p*sh they print now, back to the murray rent a jet days.

     

     

    Thems deserve all they get.

  20. Just received a fantastic photo from Belfast of the legend that is Roy Croppie and his boy meeting a certain Mr Rodgers. Hh

  21. JIMTHETIM53

     

     

    By any chance do you hail from Western Australia near Perth? If its you and I’m just guessing, you will have a damn good idea who I am, you were at my wedding (first time around) if I’m right.

  22. SoT

     

     

    That’s the one! 2 losses to Germany in 1990 and 2014.

     

     

    Argentina (x3), Czecoslovakia (x2) Hungary(x2) Brazil (x2) Sweden, Germany (x4) Italy (x2) Netherlands (x3) France.