Dilemma of youth development

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I know squad numbers are limited but I’m disappointed Eoghan O’Connell has not been retained. In his performances early last season he displayed the attributes of a modern-day footballing central defender. He has a future in the game and will do well wherever he goes next.

The perennial dilemma of youth development is that while teams want to improve performances NOW, they also need to leave space for worthy development squad candidates to grow into. Kieran Tierney got there, but the truth is, Celtic had been trying to sign a left back for year but were unable find anyone of the necessary standard. If we did, Kieran, Eoghan, would never have had the chance.

 

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    Comrade Ernie Of Saff Croydon….

     

     

     

     

    From the Guido Fawkes Blog :

     

     

     

    Liebour Repeatedly Tried to Do Deals With the DUP

     

     

     

    Labour have boarded the outrage bus over the Tories doing a deal with the“bigots and terrorist-sympathisers”in the DUP. They have some nerve…

     

     

     

    In 2010 Labour tried to do a deal with the DUP. Gordon Brown wrote a letter to the DUP leader trying to buy his support. The then Northern Ireland Secretary Shawn Woodward worked on an“economic package”to secure DUP support. This morning Alastair Campbell said a deal with the DUP could undermine the peace process.

     

     

    On May 7, 2010, Campbell sat in a meeting where a Labour-DUP deal was proposed.Glorious hypocrisy from Bad Al…

     

     

     

    Ed Miliband last night blasted the Tory-DUP deal as a“coalition of chaos”. Yvette Cooper this morning says it is “troubling“. Owen Jones says:“If Labour had ever done a deal with the DUP I would have been out there protesting it”. According to the DUP’s Ian Paisley Jr, Miliband’s Labour also tried to do a deal with the DUP in 2015:

     

     

     

    Don’t buy the rank hypocrisy of Labour’s faux outrage this morning…

     

     

     

     

     

     

    https://order-order.com/2017/06/11/labour-repeatedly-tried-to-do-deals-with-the-dup/?_e_pi_=7%2CPAGE_ID10%2C1362975110

     

     

     

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  2. macjay1 for Neil Lennon on

    Congratulations , England.

     

     

    Great win in the under 20s Final.

     

     

    Makes the Scottish performance yesterday look even better.

  3. The Green Man says SACK THE Board on

    The Lurkin Tim

     

     

    No worries bud. Been known to be moody myself:)

     

    And BTW, im still right:)

     

     

    HH

  4. Gerryfaethebrig on

    Corkcelt 12.55pm

     

     

    Shoosh……. We can’t officially announce it till the “windae burst open” on 1st July, if that is the correct terminology as I know the “windae always slams shut”

     

     

    Still a bit gutted for Leigh & Gordon yesterday, the Griffs goals get better every time I watch them, hope Brendan was watching :-)

     

     

    Maybe got my Celtic head on but listening to Talksport today and they are getting tore into Joe Hart for yesterday saying Butland is better……. Butland or Hart couldn’t lay a glove on big Fraser Forster, am sure Southamoton defensive stats are down 90% to the big mhan

  5. TheLurkinTim on

    Corkie….calm Doon play the long gemme ;-)

     

     

    OrelseCSC

     

     

    H.H

     

     

    FTDUP

  6. cowiebhoy@9.26

     

    sa gets away with it as he is usually in the nidfield or in the opponents half.

     

    no danger. imagine if ea made that mistake yesterday, boom!!

     

     

    i would not be surprised if ea made less bad passes than sa.but we would have to work out on the ball time.

     

    see you soon.

  7. THELURKINTIM on 11TH JUNE 2017 12:35 PM

     

    Is Ernie a split personality of Quonno, Mr Pastry, Matts Nilloc, Timbhoy1 & others? Should he be ridiculed or patronised ;-))

     

     

     

    FTSFA

     

     

     

    H.H.

     

    I cannot speak for others. But if Ernie says something I disagree with then I will criticise him. Equally when he is correct I have no problem in acknowledging it.

  8. The Green Man says SACK THE Board on

    Corkcelt

     

     

    Yeah….lets talk about the cost of oppression.

     

    See how much that costs.

     

    Im with you 100%

     

     

    HH

  9. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    Sinn Fein make it abundantly clear to the electorate that they will not enter Westminster,pledge allegiance to The Crown,and take their seats.

     

     

    Their voters are aware of this,and vote for them regardless. A party which sticks to its promises should be applauded for that,not castigated. Otherwise the Nationalists in NI would be left with no outlet for their political opinions.

     

     

    Likewise the DUP. People vote for them knowing what they stand for. That it is poison to most on here is irrelevant,people are entitled to use their vote freely,and for a party which best represents them.

     

     

    IMO both parties to this “coalition” arrangement will suffer from it. Especially as the English electorate begin to realise the monstrosity that now holds the balance of power.

     

     

    May would have been better served by declining an official tie-up with the DUP and merely hoping they would go along. They normally side with the tories anyway.

     

     

    And even with their backing,she is a hostage to every single one of her MPs on every issue.

     

     

    I suspect it will have been quite some time since she’s been as well screwed as she is now.

  10. Boris being punted as next PM.

     

    He annd Trump will give new meaning to Atlantic Alliance.

  11. TheLurkinTim on

    BMCUW,

     

     

    fortunately….non peepul will soon b aware of the DUP…..the Coalition should/will be anathema;-))

     

     

    FTDUP

     

     

    H.H.

  12. Gerryfaethebrig on

    Corkcelt 1.17pm

     

     

    Cheers, I didn’t realise that so Johnny Hayes announced the morra :-)

     

     

    Whit kind of manager is Brendan Rodgers if he is in his honeymoon when we need players, some other teams have the galacticos jetting in from everywhere :-)

  13. THE IRISH TIMES

     

    Brexit: There will be a hard border. The only question is where?

     

     

    Wed, Mar 22, 2017

     

     

    Notions of a high-tech unseen border are a pipe dream or smokescreen, Brexiteer promises of a soft border almost worthless. British prime minister Theresa May has other priorities. Anyway it depends on negotiations involving 27 other states and on what people in Ireland North and South do – or fail to do. A 56 per cent Northern Ireland majority, including many unionists, voted Remain; few Leavers want a hard border and most in the South are strongly opposed. But there will be a hard border. The only question is where?

  14. SCULLYBHOY on 11TH JUNE 2017 1:29 PM

     

     

    The DUP don’t want a hard border between the north and south, or between Ireland and the British mainland.

     

     

    As things stand they are in a position to dictate that policy to the Tories.

     

     

    Which would cause apoplexy among the Tory right.

     

     

    It’s a right old conundrum.

  15. Melbourne Mick on

    Hello again all you young rebels.

     

     

    Lovely sunny winters day here in Victoria Oz, 15 degs this morn.

     

    and perfect for soccer, our bhoys are buzzing, another win today

     

    kept them top of the league, wee mhan scored another cracker but

     

    was a bit subdued as the head coach my mate and a mad Celt had

     

    to order him and his big african strike partner not to take off their

     

    tops if they scored to show off the hoops as we could not risk any

     

    suspensions through another booking, mib’s eh! pure huns.

     

    Word must be getting out about our club and particularly the under

     

    15’s as we had anther big crowd today and lots of hoops, three

     

    ghuy’s stopped one of our committee members at the local train

     

    station and asked him where it was that the Celtic bhoy’s played as

     

    they would be attending with the obligatory kerryoot :-))

     

    Not seen the Griff’s goals yet as i never took much interest in that

     

    game but i’ll have a wee look now , just to show the wee mhan how a

     

    real striker does it, don’t think he’ll bite lol.

     

    H.H Mick

  16. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    MELBOURNEMICK

     

     

    Keep The Green Flag Flying High!!!

     

     

    Well proud of yer missionary work,bud.

  17. THE DONALD on 11TH JUNE 2017 12:58 PM

     

     

    In 2010 Labour tried to do a deal with the DUP. Gordon Brown wrote a letter to the DUP leader trying to buy his support

     

     

    *the same Raith supporter who gave the demagogue self appointed Doctor of Divinity knighthood.

  18. Melbourne Mick on

    BMCUW

     

     

    So easy to be a missionary down here, the Celts are loved, and these

     

    kids know our club is above and beyond any other despite what the

     

    Murdoch media try to brainwash them with.

     

    H.H Mick

  19. thetimreaper on

    Serge Gnarby left Arsenal last season for Werder Bremen. After spending the previous season on loan at West Brom, Tony Pulis declared him ‘not good enough’. Today he signed for Bayern Munich. Bayern fans aren’t happy, questioning whether he is good enough whilst supporters of other Clubs bemoan Bayern hoovering up the best players in the League. Sounds familiar.

  20. Bob O' Baldy on

    Not been following the assumed anti-nationalist dogma on here over the past few weeks, I’m glad as I’m nowhere nearly as angry a person for it.

     

    Beware, this is actually a Celtic related point. As I’ve known for 5 years at least, Joe Hart is a godsend for those who don’t want to see England do well in competition. As hilarious as his humiliation on council TV was, it hid the almost as bad performance by our own #1.

     

     

    Fortunately, for his sake, Craig Gordon doesn’t have to deal with back passes on a consistent basis in domestic football, this probably won’t be the case if we’re lucky enough to make the Champions League group stages.

     

     

    Is his confidence shot forever? What’s the solution?

  21. Gerryfaethebrig on

    Melbourne Mick

     

     

    The Griff would be a great role model for the wee mhan BUt only on the park, by the sounds of things the grandkids keeps you on your toes far too early for the great grand-weans especially at the rate our Leigh scores :-)

  22. thetimreaper on

    Re the article is shared this morning about Benfica, one of the interesting things in the piece was the influence of the agent Jorge Mendes, not just in recruiting players but in deciding when they should move on. If Mendes feels the player isn’t ready to move on, they don’t do the deal. There are parallels to be drawn with Moussa, and Roberts. Both players would benefit from more time at Celtic. It will be interesting to see if we can do more business with Moussa’s agent or if this is a one off. The article touched on the idea that if you play for one of the big three teams in Portugal, you come with a ‘guarantee stamp’. Basically that means that they have a proven track record in selling players who go on to be successful. VVD and Wanyama will have done wonders for our credibility in that respect. Let’s hope we are alive to this concept. The main obstacle will be attracting players to Scotland.

     

     

    http://www.thenational.ae/sport/football/exclusive-scout-settle-success-sell–how-the-benfica-model-is-flourishing#full

  23. clogher celt @ 11:12 am

     

     

    “Let’s see how the CQN unionists enjoy having the DUP make their laws.”

     

     

    I normally respect your posts here as balanced and informed. And I acknowledge that you were replying to ernie, whose brusque and intemperate form of reply can raise hackles even when people agree with him, but the line you used above continues to annoy and rankle.

     

     

    We got all this divisive pish in the 2014 Referendum where a large group of Celtic supporters and others saw some equivalence between the Irish Nationalist (and republican) struggle and the Scottish Nationalist (non-Republican) movement.

     

     

    To place Scots who did not favour the independence offered by the SNP (or the “pig in a poke” offered by their fellow travellers) under the Unionist label owned by the repugnant NI mob, is a dire insult to me as a Celt and to all those who went before me before Scottish Nationalism became one of our “ploughman’s lunch” traditions.

     

     

    The SNP has existed since 1934 and nationalists have contested elections since 1929 (earlier if you consider some of the home Rule adherents in various UK wide parties). There was no SNP or nationalist tradition among the Irishmen who came here in the 20th century to seek work, nor was there in Irishmen who went to England or Wales. Instead they voted for your so-called “Unionist” parties and they did so en masse until the last couple of decades.

     

     

    So many mistakes are made when we see false equivalences between Ireland’s attempts to throw off English rule and the perception that Scotland operates under any kind of yolk of English oppression. Scots were in large representation as the administrators and beneficiaries of the worst excesses of The British Empire. The last major rebellion against the UK establishment was the religious ethnic rebellion of 1745 which saw Highland Scots and Irish defending the old religion being slaughtered by fellow Scots and Englishmen under Cumberland.

     

     

    There are more than 40 shades of Nationalism and Unionism involved in the shifting sands of political identification and National Identity.

     

     

    So, with all due respect, my opposition to the needless austerity which will flow from an ill-considered and unnecessary divorce from a grouping of nations that existed for many centuroes now, has feck all to do with the politics of Ireland, and my Irish father and mother knew that in their bones.

  24. 67Heaven .. CHALLENGING THE LIE ..I am wee Oscar...... Ipox belongs to the creditors on

    Chuckie even…. :)

  25. TheLurkinTim on

    Christ its wet out there…..hoping my sis n bro in law fell a Venice canal….;-))

     

     

    FTDUP

     

     

    H.H.

     

     

    couldntgetanywetterCSC

  26. Melbourne Mick on

    GERRYFAETHEBRIG

     

     

    Yes it’s amazing how grandkids keep you going but we can still show

     

    them a trick or three, the wee mhan gets extremely miffed when i can

     

    keepy uppy more than him much to the hilarity of his team mates .

     

    Eight games played at our new ground today, from under 7’s to the

     

    last game, the girls under 15’s and with all our bhoys shouting them

     

    on what a game they played to get their first victory, wonder why ? :-)))))

     

    H.H Mick

  27. And while I am in ranting mode, I have to offer some criticism to those of us in the Labour movement who see the recent Corbyn “success” as some kind of inevitable reversal of the recent trends towards Scottish Independence and even UK Tory rule.

     

     

    There is no such inevitability and such hubristic reasoning was shown by the Nationalists who thought their post-Referendum triumphs were signs of an inevitable trend.

     

     

    As the Tory Party has gloriously demonstrated you can turn a position of success into failure and setback quite easily.

     

     

    Those seeing signs of an inevitable decline of Tories in the UL and SNP in Scotland have to note that they both remain highly popular vote gathering parties. They can regress, stand still, or bounce back and there is nothing inevitable about the direction it will head.

     

     

    All it will take for the recent Labour recovery to falter is to revert to the in-fighting for which we are renowned and for blood letting to become a feature of the post-2017 election period. The electorate always tends to punish in-fighting parties.

     

     

    In contrast, the SNP could do with a period of self examination and vigorous debate as it has been too near a cult movement exercising iron disagreement and little tolerance of dissent. It has to recognise that many of its voters are not “core” and are prepared to revise their voting intentions.

     

     

    The recent Brexit referendum and the 2017 election were both unnecessary and both happened because the Tory Party could not reconcile their internal arguments and frankly, their leadership contestants. The country has suffered twice because of that- all of us- N. Ireland too.

     

     

    Anybody who wants to confidently proclaim future trends or declare that history is dead, left and ight thinking irrelevant, is fooling themselves and will lose money at the bookies betting on their inevitable hunches.

     

     

    In Politics, like in football, it is always “Events, dear boy” which determine and very rarely human choices.

     

     

    There is a long way to go before future nationalist and pan-European relations are determined.

     

     

    That’s if there is not a war first.

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