Doubt remains until we hear the words Prima Facie

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Neil Doncaster has uttered the words “Prima Facie” more often than any other figure in public life since February when Celtic Quick News first asked if Rangers EBT payments were declared to the football authorities, almost always after the words “we don’t know if there is a”.  While we are all assuming the SPL have now established Rangers have a case to answer for illegally registering footballers for over a decade, it’s important to hear the words.

Rangers refused to submit information to the SPL for three months and only did so under the duress of a deadline, but we don’t know what they have submitted.  I have been concerned that Rangers would simply try to brass the entire episode out, submit the contracts the SFA and SPL already had, and deny having any record of side agreements.

Consider the clubs modus operandi in recent months and years.  Sir David Murray provided cover in March, categorically denying side contracts existed, while the current men in charge have been too busy to spare much time researching the issue.  A response of “We don’t have any information” would not have surprised me.  Rangers submitting full information – including details on the side letters which exist but which the BBC do not have – would surprise me.

The SPL should have realised months ago they would get nothing from Rangers without a deadline but they are in awkward position if the answer from the club is not what is expected.  It’s far from clear that they can take evidence from the BBC and may require information from the First Tier Tribunal verdict to substantiate what everyone knows.  The verdict is unlikely to confirm any names.

Until Mr Doncaster says “Prima Facie evidence exists” we should not assume this episode is on track to be dealt with.

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  1. OK – Work finished for the day.

     

    Lager awaits, i’m on my way.

     

    Party later, for a friend moving away.

     

    But Nottingham? Never, nay!!!!

     

     

    HH

  2. re SFA and huns, I expect they will ‘hit’ the huns with a hard hitting ban from the cup for one season

  3. •-:¦:-•** -:¦:- sparkleghirl :¦:-.•**• -:¦:-• on

    I wonder if tickets for the Southampton tournament mention “Rangers FC (or a successor to it) like Celtic’s do..

     

     

    Have any other SPL teams included this line, does anyone know?

  4. fergus slayed the blues on

    Monaghan1900 on 1 June, 2012 at 16:57 said:

     

    What makes you so sure the term means killed ,could he be thinking of something else :-) .maybe the tweeter is a wee bit light on the loafers

     

    lunchboxcsc

     

    HH

  5. And when we are down .we are down. By god they have all played a blinder. Dont know about you lot , but some of us saw this coming .

     

     

    Jimtim

  6. Dontbrattbakkinanger on

    Zybszek -sadly no, I would have loved to go. I applied to UEFA for tickets but I didn’t get any. I know they’re playing in Ukraine but England have sent back lots of unsold tickets, perhals because of adverse publicity re trouble at the games.

     

     

    In the opening game I’m looking for Poland 3 Greece 3, with a Samaras hat-trick.

     

     

    BSR @17.00 -maks sense tae me, and it maks sesne tae Mo.

  7. fergus slayed the blues on

    •-:¦:-•** -:¦:- sparkleghirl :¦:-.•**• -:¦:-• on 1 June, 2012 at 17:05 said:

     

    Word on the street is Southampton is the setting for a new hollywood world war 3 movie and the yanks have spent months trying to recreate the devastation of Manchester city centre after the eufa cup final but to no avail .So decided to set up a tournament and let the professionals do it

  8. Billy's Bhoy on

    I see Carlos Cuellar is available on a free as well as Owen Hargreaves and Louis Saha and Ledley King.

     

     

    Thought Cuellar was pretty decent defender if one of the ugliest ghuys since Davie Dodds. May be it is something to with having your first name and second name start with the same initial.

     

     

    Aw Naw……..need to change my blog name back to steelica.

  9. Dontbrattbakkinanger on

    The names that have been freed are like a ‘who’s who’ of heroic orthopaedic surgery

  10. Best goal Reggi Blinker ever scored…?

     

     

    Has to be his flying header from the edge of the penalty area, in the 3-2 defeat by Aberdeen..

     

     

    Goalkeeper didn’t have an earthly….

     

     

    Bad day for penalty kicks too….

     

     

    Has Campbell Ogilvie Resigned Yet..??

  11. Mr Doncaster has provided ample evidence so far that he needs to watche very carefully

     

    This guy would do business with anyone – indeed his next appointment could well be with the Syrian FA

     

    He has no moral scruples and worryingly no great business sense

     

    If he cannot see that he is employed to protect and promote the SPL and not the huns then he should be removed immediately

     

    The huns are so toxic that they will infect the entire league if they are not removed

     

    Mr Doncaster’s steadfast refusal to take action against the serial cheats marks him as compliant and spineless

     

    This is a club that in the last year has stolen £21M pounds of taxpayers money to run a football club – yet Mr Doncaster has brought no case against them!

     

     

    He should be run out of town on a rail !

     

     

    HH

  12. DBBA

     

     

    If you can arrange the flight, I think I can arrange tickets at prices 60 , maybe 80 GBP. Comfortable sleeps still available at 25 GBP per persom / night.

     

     

    I should write comments on BBC film because I watched it yesteray.

     

     

    that film was scarry. Can’t argue with the pictures but …

     

     

    Can you imagine that someone records film about how beautiful is life in Palestine, Baghdad or Kandahar?

     

     

    I think that kind of film is possible.

     

    I don’t say the BBC are liars but film was cheap picture of Poland.

  13. Monaghan1900 on

    fergus slayed the blues on 1 June, 2012 at 17:07 said:

     

    Monaghan1900 on 1 June, 2012 at 16:57 said:

     

    What makes you so sure the term means killed ,could he be thinking of something else :-) .maybe the tweeter is a wee bit light on the loafers

     

    lunchboxcsc

     

    ———-

     

    I’ve no idea what the term means. The Huns have decided it means “murdered”. You may well be right. Regan would be well advised to stay off Twitter though. On the other hand, may be his suicide by police.

  14. saltires en sevilla on

    Dick Byrne on 1 June, 2012 at 15:43 said:

     

    Cadizzy,

     

     

    You won’t be in the least surprised to hear that I was at that Knebworth Festival too – Google tells me it was on 9/9/78 and featured The Tubes, Frank Zappa, Peter Gabriel, Boomtown Rats, Rockpile & Wilko Johnson’s Solid Senders.

     

     

    I also went on 21/8/76 – The Rolling Stones, 10cc, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Todd Rundgren’s Utopia , Hot Tuna , Don Harrison Band.

     

     

    share on F’book or Twitter

     

     

     

    ——

     

    I was there 79 style

     

     

    Led Zep; Todd Rundgren’s Utopia; Atlanta Rythm Section; Commander Cody and Rock Gods Chas & Dave ;)

     

     

    Utopia were unbelievable as the Last if The New Wave Riders and most of Ra which was rather nice

     

     

    Epic stuff

     

     

    HH

     

     

    M

  15. Vogue C.S.C going to Haydock then Liverpool

     

    tomorrow any CQNers in vicinity give me a shout

     

    (no you G64 your gone oan bus) get my number

     

    off Blantyretim as he has everyone mobie and E-mail.

     

    hail hail

  16. An away game a few years ago, in WGS times. I nip to the toilet and come back – ‘anything happening?’ Erstwhile CQN poster iBhoy: ‘Aye, slush’. ‘Slush? What do you mean?’. ‘Sno warming up’.

  17. NEWS FLASH:

     

     

    Neil Doncaster just seen going into Hampden with stencil paper & colouring in pencils…those present say he is preparing to draft up the new SPL rules.

     

     

    More to follow.

  18. !!Bada Bing!! on

    VP-Enjoy,make sure you let us know the talking horses at the course.

     

    misteredcsc

  19. Good afternoon cqn

     

    thats me confirmed my cqn Badges.the only guy in Sunny Balloch with them when I Get Them.

     

    Are they no Bloody dead yet.

  20. skyisalandfill on

    Was also at Knebwoth in 79. The New Barbarians ( Keef & Ron) were awful. Southside Jonny and the Asbury Dukes were great. The Runt and Zep were fantastic.

     

    The very first band I ever went to see were Dr Feelgood at the Aberdeen Music hall in 77. Support was none other than Mink Deville.

     

    Thinkin that you’re such a lady killerCSC

  21. whitecrook tim on 1 June, 2012 at 17:37 said:

     

    Good afternoon cqn

     

     

    thats me confirmed my cqn Badges.the only guy in Sunny Balloch with them when I Get Them.

     

     

    Are they no Bloody dead yet.

     

     

    ……

     

     

    Not if I get up the road to my Mams when I get mine.

  22. BT/Bada

     

    Thanks,don’t really feel like a drink this weekend

     

    maybe take a book and sit in the park.

     

     

    neildoncasteroutoftouchwithrealityC.S.C

  23. skyisalandfill on

    Bloke109

     

     

    Sorry mate. You have my deepest sympathy

     

     

    HH

     

    SIALF

  24. sixtaeseven: No NewClub in SPL and it's Non-Negotiable! on

    The good news is that RFC(ia) are likely to get a suspension.

     

     

    The bad news is that it will be a suspended suspension.

     

     

    It will be suspended until a decision is made of the validity of the suspension, making it a suspended suspended suspension.

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