Doubt remains until we hear the words Prima Facie

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Neil Doncaster has uttered the words “Prima Facie” more often than any other figure in public life since February when Celtic Quick News first asked if Rangers EBT payments were declared to the football authorities, almost always after the words “we don’t know if there is a”.  While we are all assuming the SPL have now established Rangers have a case to answer for illegally registering footballers for over a decade, it’s important to hear the words.

Rangers refused to submit information to the SPL for three months and only did so under the duress of a deadline, but we don’t know what they have submitted.  I have been concerned that Rangers would simply try to brass the entire episode out, submit the contracts the SFA and SPL already had, and deny having any record of side agreements.

Consider the clubs modus operandi in recent months and years.  Sir David Murray provided cover in March, categorically denying side contracts existed, while the current men in charge have been too busy to spare much time researching the issue.  A response of “We don’t have any information” would not have surprised me.  Rangers submitting full information – including details on the side letters which exist but which the BBC do not have – would surprise me.

The SPL should have realised months ago they would get nothing from Rangers without a deadline but they are in awkward position if the answer from the club is not what is expected.  It’s far from clear that they can take evidence from the BBC and may require information from the First Tier Tribunal verdict to substantiate what everyone knows.  The verdict is unlikely to confirm any names.

Until Mr Doncaster says “Prima Facie evidence exists” we should not assume this episode is on track to be dealt with.

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  1. Dontbrattbakkinanger on

    Mink de Ville, briliant debut LP. Saw them at the ole Apollo, fantastic.

     

     

    ‘Party Girls’ has to be one of the best last tracks on side 2 of any record ever made.

     

     

    DBBIA/ Venus of Avenue D CSC

  2. Billy Smart(think?)

     

    Blackpool Beach 74….. 0)

     

     

    VP text on its way …

  3. sixtaeseven: No NewClub in SPL and it's Non-Negotiable! on

    Did the Flying Pig have four contracts?

  4. Ole EuroChamps67 style BBQ

     

     

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  5. •-:¦:-•** -:¦:- sparkleghirl :¦:-.•**• -:¦:-• on

    Regan seems to me to be utterly lacking in professionalism.

     

     

    I see no need for a professional to tweet criticisms of former employees

     

     

    Stewart M. Regan ‏@StewartRegan 10 abr

     

    Referee appointments are based on performance. Would prefer to see consistent under performers ‘retire’ without feeling need to blame others

     

     

    nor for responding via twitter to criticisms of his twitter behaviour as he has today

     

     

    Stewart M. Regan ‏@StewartRegan

     

    Much ado about nothing. Tweets potentially breaching new legislation often saved.

     

     

     

    How much is this man being paid to manage scottish football? Both of these are embarrassing in their different ways and could be said to be bringing the game – or at least the SFA – into disrepute

  6. Fork Eye ‏@scotfitbaquotes

     

    Unarguably the most socially-backward fans in British football. (Graham Spiers on Rangers fans, 2011)

     

     

    You’re not wrong Gracie, you’re not wrong…

  7. Sky

     

     

    Southside J. & the Asbury Dukes = excellent band

     

    Real party band – thought SJ was a better singer than the Boss and the Dukes up there with the E- street Band IMHO

     

     

    HH

  8. tarrant on 1 June, 2012 at 17:41 said:

     

    The Singing Detective on 1 June, 2012 at 17:21 said:

     

     

    Best goal Reggi Blinker ever scored…?

     

     

    Arghh!!

     

     

    Never forget him sclaffing 5th goal which big Rab Douglas (Dundee) dived over (like a falling tree) – cost me my Henke 1st goal & 4-0 correct score!

     

     

    End of season – would have paid my S/ticket. :-(

  9. !!Bada Bing!! on

    Just bought The Artist on DVD,disappointed,couldn’t hear it and it was in black and white.Took it back.

  10. BT

     

     

    Give me a shout what number,usually pouring

     

    G64 into his house Sunday afternoon,but we

     

    can always make a detour:O)

  11. Kilbowie Kelt on

    I’m truly sorry that Darren O’Dea is no longer a Celt.

     

    I enjoyed what this brave, enthusiastic & committed Bhoy brought to our team.

     

    At one point he was the only player at the club who would seek to settle scores for the abuse that his less physical team-mates were enduring.

     

    He was certainly no less talented than our motley band of central defenders.

     

    He deserved his chance.

     

     

    Thank, Darren.

     

    I hope you go on to have a great career.

  12. Why can on of the authorities just not get rid of the Huns accodring to existing rules, NOW, instead of passing the buck to each other and saying “over to you, please, we are sh*t scared of what the peepul and their supporters will do to us’

  13. First live bands…1972

     

     

    Free

     

    Jethro Tull

     

    The Faces

     

    Deep Purple

     

    Led Zeppelin

     

     

    It was a good year for the old Green’s Playhouse

  14. Great year 67……beat the English at Wembley. Look at the team and ask why Murdoch and Auld did not play.

     

    Where was wee Jinky?

     

     

     

    1. Simpson (Celtic)

     

    2. Gemmell (Celtic)

     

    3. McCreadie (Chelsea)

     

    4. Greig (Rangers)

     

    5. McKinnon (Rangers)

     

    6. Baxter (Sunderland)

     

    7. Wallace (Celtic)

     

    8. Bremner (Leeds)

     

    9. McCalliog (Sheffield Wed)

     

    10. Law (Manchester Utd)

     

    11. Lennox (Celtic)

     

     

    Billy McNeil…….or MKinnon.

     

     

    No argument with Law , Baxter or Bremner.

  15. first real live band was u2 barrowland immediately after Rapid Vienna at Celtic park..

  16. VertWolf on 1 June, 2012 at 12:26 said:

     

    Paul67

     

    the side-letters may well be relevant for the FTT ruling but I would have thought the simple existence of significant additional payments to players over and above the amounts lodged with the SPL/SFA would provide Prima Facie evidence – it shouldn’t matter if the documents about the payments are provided indirectly via a leak say from the EBT Trustees or directly by RFC(IA) – they should still be damning enough to get a proper investigation started

     

    VertWolf

     

     

    THIS! The mere existence of payment for footballing activities should be enough.

  17. fergus slayed the blues on

    Ron Bacardi on 1 June, 2012 at 18:00 said:

     

    They are the peeplil ,that’s why .The trouble is the powers in charge of our game keep proving them right

     

    HH

  18. sitting out the back with strongbow in glass, cqn on phone and Celtic Manor on SkyGo…

     

     

    Chinese or BBQ?

  19. blantyretim on 1 June, 2012 at 18:03 said:

     

    first real live band was u2 barrowland immediately after Rapid Vienna at Celtic park..

     

     

    ……….

     

     

    One of my best nights in Manchester, result apart, was Celtic v Rapid at OT.

     

     

    Took all my Manchester mates and they have been Celtic fans ever since. Well second team at least.

  20. fergus slayed the blues on

    blantyretim on 1 June, 2012 at 18:07 said:

     

    Where did it all go wrong

     

    HH

  21. Bloke:

     

     

    BREAKING NEWS:

     

     

    Standing here on the sunny stairs of Hampden & a guy coming out of the stadium has just told me he witnessed Doncaster & Regan trading blows over the jumbo pen from Neil’s Rangers pencil set…to see who was going to complete the Scottish Rule Book easy numbering book…he did not, I repeat, did not, confirm who won the tizzy.

     

     

    More to follow.

  22. googybhoy

     

    we drove from Blatyre that day, stopped of in Preston and went to an irish bar, can’t remember the name..

     

    massive big Irish Wolfhound decided my wee mate Frank was his dinner… superb…result apart…

  23. I see some references to “Big Doc.”

     

    I was wondering what had caused the exchanges.

     

    Big Doc left a huge impression on me from an early age. Fortunately the scars were physical and temporary.

     

    I only appreciated his steadfastness and dedication to education and his faith in latter life.

     

    A strong upstanding, literally, straight faced, straight backed disciplinarian with a wry self deprecating sense of humour.

     

    I was describing to my wife just a few days ago how we all larked about with him on our Wednesday morning trips to Coatbridge baths. God that was nearly 50 years ago.

     

    I’d be glad to hear any news of him.

  24. Kilbowie Kelt on 1 June, 2012 at 18:00 said:

     

     

    Well said. I always liked the Darren and always believed that he was better than some make out.

     

     

    Like you, I wish him all the very best whichever club he signs for.

     

     

    Hail Hail

  25. wonkyradar

     

     

    I live a mere forty minute’s walk away from Hampden, yet do not have your commitment to the cause to represent us and send us your epistles from the frontline. I salute your indefatigability, and await your next update.

  26. fergus slayed the blues on

    If you had 3 wishes what would they be …

     

    1.ragers vs stirling albion

     

    2. Lord Archer getting a visitors pass from Minty

     

    3. Lenny reaching 10 IAR

     

    HH

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