Celtic have been dragged into a former club’s scandal today by Scotland’s former best-selling daily newspaper, who have completely misrepresented issues surrounding the registration of Juninho.
The newspaper makes the astonishing and completely inaccurate claim that the “SPL have revealed they decided not to investigate Celtic’s EBT payment to Juninho”.
The SPL have investigated Celtic’s EBT payment to Juninho. They found Celtic acted absolutely in line with the rules and this week issued a statement confirming this. To tell people otherwise is recklessly inaccurate.
A front page statement proclaims:
“Hoops in clear because Juninho only received cash AFTER he left the club”
Utter nonsense. It’s a bit like saying:
“Hoops in clear because Juninho’s name begins with the letter J”
A true reflection would read:
“Hoops in clear because they discharged the registration and entire employment process of Juninho in a correct manner and no differently than the way every other SPL club has registered players”
When Juninho “received the cash” has nothing whatsoever to do with Celtic being “in the clear”. It is, frankly, an embarrassing attempt to pander to the paranoia of others and betrays a fundamental lack of knowledge.
The newspaper also dedicated all-but-one column of their back page, and part of an inside page, to the ‘story’ of how Celtic “didn’t end up in the dock”. Compare this to the coverage the same newspaper gave to the actual SPL statement on Juninho, released in an earlier attempt to dampen-down ill-informed paranoia, which received a tiny, 35-word, 1-inch back page note and a single column inside the paper.
Throughout recent weeks a basic misunderstanding of the legality of EBTs appears to have taken root in some minds. It is as though some mass psychological phenomenon is at play. Or maybe it’s just a deliberate attempt to confuse the easily confused?
EBTs are not against football, or specifically, player registration, rules. This is accepted as fact by anyone even vaguely familiar with the rules, yet we have some, who should know better, tell us that Rangers’ EBTs were recorded in their annual accounts, as though this is some defence against player registration charges, or that others should join them ‘in the dock’, because they used an EBT.
The matter in hand is not the use of EBTs, it’s about player registrations. You can pay players in EBTs, folding notes or Dutch tulip bulbs, as long as you register him correctly. And pay your tax.
Player registration rules are categorically clear, clubs must register all contracts with the SFA and SPL. All monies due in relation to football must appear on those contracts. Juninho’s contract was registered correctly.
On this issue, Celtic are exposed to the joint analysis of other 11 SPL clubs and the other 93 SFA clubs (counting both Ibrox based clubs), who control the rules and their scrutiny.
There are limits to what an employer can publicly reveal about a former employee’s personal financial details, but Celtic have revealed all facts concerning Juninho’s employment to the SFA and SPL.
Their conduct was investigated, was found to be absolutely and completely impeccable AND in line with SFA advice on player registration.
All I am wondering about is, should we be happy that those who should be planning for some serious headwinds are instead following a ridiculous wild goose chase?
I think so. That being the case, what are people trying to divert attention from? Hmmm.
Last week I met John Maguire, managing director of Celtic Development Pools. John’s been there for 30 years, the enthusiasm for youth player development is tangible when you listen to him talk. He’s at the coal face, raising money for the enormous youth development project which brings players like James Forrest into the club, and also polished Tony Watt into the exciting talent he is.
The ‘Pools predate my time but today’s fabulous harvest of young talent was made more possible by the Paradise Windfall, which now pays £15,000 each home game and has been the largest lottery in world football for years. Income from the Pools and Paradise Windfall generates around £1.5m each season.
The coaches at Lennoxtown (and most fans) know how important it is for Celtic’s youth scouting and development to be the very best it can be. It has to be world class. For the guys at the Pools office, the challenge is clear, fund this ambition.
To this end, this weekend the Development Pools launch TikPick. For £1 you can win a cash prize for predicting 10 results. It’s not a lot of money and none of it will go towards putting fuel in a £100k motor car. This is a grass-roots level investment in our future. Go take a look here.
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lorbobo
18:34 on
14 September, 2012
No you presented it wrongly and have admitted it. So YOU Fu(ked up
Its not my fault that you presented it wrongly that´s why you were subsequently abused and then I apologised.
Still acting like a hun even after an apology and your mistake cause you got some deserved abuse.
I retract everything. :-)))
HAil HAil
McOist just called the current club Newco???
goldstar
Was it in relation to something about £140,000,000 of debt?
Goat the right glesses oan noo ……LOL
67Heaven … I am Neil Lennon..!!.. Ibrox belongs to the creditors
18:37 on
14 September, 2012
Agreed.
Even if your not smart enough or do not care to realise that lorbobo insulted the entire world wide support but if it helps you lads maintain your island monkey attitude to the world wide support. I can live with it.
Ignore me and I will ignore you guys.
You do npt add much to the debate on CQN anyway as far as I am concerned.
Brainless cheerleaders
HAil Hail
Lorbobo
Clarky is well………. Clarky. Nobody takes him that serious on here. A bit like the guy in the pub.
Awe naw.
I think it’s obvious who’s acting like a hun.
Keep throwing abuse, but sign off with a wee HH.
That’ll show everyone you’re a Tim.
Btw, go back and read my original post.
Gotta Go..Joe.
See You Folks… Anon
Kojo
Still.. Laughin’…of course!
It will be interesting to see how Charlie boy pushes the share issue if they ever get that far!
Will the Company suddenly become the club again? or will he ask the bears to buy shares in a holding Company?? not much of an attraction to the second scenario, how will he pull that one off??
Or will he be long gone before it gets that far? who knows!
vmhan
18:35 on 14 September, 2012
….pfayr
I’m actually hoping NEIL rests as many players as possible, to ensure we don’t get any (more) injuries before CL Wednesday ( oooooooo…..how good does that sound)
Magnificentseven
I hope he does get that far. I would like to see more of them getting ripped off.
HAil Hail
From a county Mayo town came a man of great renown
As a sailor and a soldier was none bolder
He went to America at an early age they say as a cabin boy to sail the wide world over.
BSR- Aye, and something about attending hearings- “we are a Newco so nothing to do with us”.
Then adventure took him south to the De La Plata mouth San Martin was on the route in Argentina
So three whaling ships he bought and Brazil and Spain he fought And freedom then he sought for Argentina.
Now Admiral William Brown you’re a man of courage shown
And in battles fought the odds were all against you
But your Irish heart was strong and in memory still lives on
And in Ireland there are some that don’t forget you.
Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo
18:50 on 14 September, 2012
Magnificentseven
I hope he does get that far. I would like to see more of them getting ripped off.
HAil Hail
aye if they are stupid enough to fall for that one they deserve to be ripped off…… what am I saying! of course they are stupid enough
Take it away somebody, the mouth-organ has fell to bits -))
paolosboots
I completely understand where you are coming from – believe me.
We ALL know that CFC is a global brand which is being held back because it plays in the SPL, and not the EPL or La Liga.
As recently as the 2008/09 season Celtic were the 8th best supported football club in the WORLD, with an average home attendance of over 57,000! Since then attendances have dropped quite dramatically, but CFC is still among the top 15/20 best supported on the planet. If we were in a European Super League we would be in the top 5 imo.
HH!!
goldstar
Thought that, saw that list the other day which was very funny.
Hope to get a look at a new player tomorrow – Miku?
Daft question but did you get your CL briefs – think ole EuroChamps
has so many packages he doesn’t know what to do with them ;-)
magnificentseven
18:47 on
14 September, 2012
I don’t think greengo even knows his NEXT move himself …….. He does, however, know his desired final outcome …….’to pick a pocket or two’ …….LOL …… silly bhuns
The long wait is over. At the end of the match v Helsingborgs a familiar tune rang around Celtic Park, one we all know well. For the last 4 years it has been heard only on our televisions, reminding us of what we were missing. Those lilting strings, uplifting, soaring, poured into the night. They call it the Champions League Anthem, although it is mistakenly sometimes referred to as Zadok the Priest, a piece by Handel, on which it is partly based. Written in 1992, specially for the tournament, by English composer Tony Britten, when it was blared over the sound system the melody was greeted with acclaim. It means only one thing.
Those big Champions League nights are back at Celtic Park.
How we have waited for this. To see the biggest teams of all come to our home ground, to plan those crazy away trips. And isn’t it strange how things turn out? With a 50/50 chance of getting a team from England, with the possibility of us visiting faraway places we’ve never been before, and cities we haven’t visited in God knows how long – and how many people were hoping for a journey to Madrid? – we end up in a draw with some old friends.
And I do not use that term lightly.
The last time we visited Benfica, we were involved in a great tussle with that club, and with Manchester United, to qualify from our group, which we did in the following match, at Celtic Park, against the English club courtesy of Nakamura’s magnificent free-kick. That night in Lisbon we suffered a setback on the pitch – we lost 3-0, in a typically disorganised away display – but off the field we showed, as ever, that our fans are special when we unfurled a banner to commemorate the Benfica player Miklos Feher, who had died, in tragic circumstances, whilst playing a match for the home side. To say we made a whole heap of new friends that night is an understatement.
“It was a unique moment and a wonderful gesture and we want to say thank you,” Nuno Gomes said. “You don’t see this often and fans around the world can learn a lot from these British supporters. We are very glad because every day we remember our friend Miki Fehér. He is always with us. This is a great display of fair play from an opposition club.”
Neil Lennon, who that night captained the team, said “You know how passionate these fans are, not just about their own club but about football worldwide. It’s a tremendous gesture and they make us very proud.”
The City of Lisbon itself is, of course, a special place. My father went on the last trip, and he made a point whilst there of visiting the site of our club’s greatest triumph, the hallowed place where we won our own European Cup. Doubtless, many Celtic fans will take the same opportunity when we visit Lisbon again during this campaign.
Our results against the Portuguese giants are patchy. At home we’ve beaten them three times in Europe. Away they have beaten us three times. If there was ever a year to slant that equation in our own favour, this is surely it. Last season, in the Europa League, our form on the road was typically poor, but the performances, particularly that in Udinese, showed a team learning quickly about, and adapting to, the rigours and pressures of continental away games, something which we have already put to good use in the two qualifying rounds.
Benfica will be a murderously tough team to play on their own ground, but I suspect this is a Celtic team which is capable of going there and getting a result.
Playing the Russians of Spartak Moscow, however, is another matter entirely, because they are something on an unknown quality, although one player there knows us very well indeed. If Guinness did reunions, this would be one to raise glasses across Scotland and Ireland; Aiden McGeady will be returning to the club where he spent his formative years.
I was a sometimes critic of Aiden McGeady. I thought there was more style than substance to his play, that for all the trickery he lacked the ability to make that killer pass which separates really good players from genuinely world class ones. I liked watching him playing direct football, running at defenders, taking them on, but there was something missing from his game.
When the chance to go to Russia came along, I honestly thought he would reject it. I thought he would do what other players on these islands have done when faced with the chance to experience a foreign culture and a different style of football. I thought he’d say no, and vote to stay in his comfort zone. I honestly believed he would hold out for a move to England.
It takes a certain type of personality to move abroad, and I did not think Aiden was the sort who would take a chance like that. How wrong I was. It is the bravest thing a player based in the UK has done in many, many a year, a move which has had, and will continue to have, undoubted benefits to his playing abilities and to his outlook. It was immeasurably gutsy, and I cannot commend him enough for having taken the risk it involved.
They are a good technical side. Like many other Russian teams they have a curious mix of Eastern European players and Brazilians, with four Samba stars in their first team squad, one of whom is the prolific striker Welliton, who will be a tricky customer, and is worth watching. There are three Russian internationals in the team – the defender, Dmitri Kombarov; the experienced midfielder Diniyar Bilyaletdinov and, lastly, and most importantly, the powerful striker Artyom Dzyuba. At 6’5 he is a deadly physical as well as technical threat, and will need constant monitoring.
Yet they finished 2nd in Russia last year, and there will be confidence within Celtic Park that this is a team that can be beaten away from home. A better Spartak side than this was dispatched by Gordon Strachan’s Celtic in 2007, when a Paul Hartley goal gave us a very credible 1-1 draw in Moscow and set up a momentous night at Paradise, where another 1-1 draw sent the match to extra time and penalties, where we won 4-3. Few who were there have ever witnessed a night of such high drama, starting with the away side missing a 24th minute penalty, followed by Celtic scoring just 2 minutes later, to send the crowd into raptures.
The Russians equalised just before half time, however, and a nervy 45 minutes ensued before Martin Stranzl was red-carded, handing Celtic the edge. Big Jan Venegoor then missed a penalty in extra time, which gave Parkhead a huge attack of the jitters, which continued into a shoot-out as tense as any our ground has ever seen. Nakamura missed his kick for Celtic, in an uncharacteristic fashion, but Artur Boruc was heroic in saving two from the Muscovites.
They can be beaten, but we will have to be at our very best.
In Barcelona that term will need redefining. Teams with far great resources than Celtic have gone there and not been beaten as much as they have been purely and simply washed away. Barcelona, on their game, are the greatest side in the world right now, some say one of the greatest club sides ever assembled. Trying to match them, at their own game, would be like setting up a dual between a world class physicist and a City Building electrician at the Large Hadron Collider.
We will have to defend like lions to get anything out of the match in Spain. If this were any other form of entertainment, we would be relishing it and the thing to do would be simply to sit back, open some beers, and enjoy the show, but as Nick Hornby memorably pointed out in Fever Pitch, football fans don’t view their obsession in the way others do. The prospect of seeing Messi, Fabregas and Villa should thrill us. Instead, I will be watching through my fingers.
No-one realistically expects Celtic to go to Spain and play an attacking system. Better teams than ours have paid a high price for daring to try that. At Celtic Park it’s another story, but even there we will need to be cagey in the face of a team which has gone to every top ground in Europe and given the home fans nightmares to take away with them. We will try and contain them, but that too can be like holding back the tide. How do you contain the dancing feet of the best footballer ever to play the game? You have to try … but it’s like Shylock’s Bargain, trying to extract a pound of flesh without shedding a drop of blood. A practical impossibility.
Off the field, it’s a different story. Barcelona and Celtic have an affinity which goes beyond mere football. The social links are there. The historical similarities are there. The ethos of the clubs is the same. The passion of the fans is identical. We have friends at Barcelona, lots of them, and that guarantees a warm and happy atmosphere for our travelling fans, and gives their supporters the promise of fun times in Glasgow. This is the kind of relationship that football is all about, something that transcends the game, becomes about community, and values.
Sadly, none of it will matter on the park, where they will show us no mercy. But that experience, though searing for us to watch, could be the making of this side.
This is a young Celtic team, which is only going to get better with every experience they have. They have a lot to learn, but last season’s European travels, where we went to Spain, France and Italy, and played very good sides in what was, correctly, described as a “Champions League group”, have already given them a good grounding, which was evident in the two disciplined away performances in the qualifying games. They were just a prelude though. The main event is coming up soon, and these players will never have experienced anything like it.
That can only help this team to grow, and learn, and get better.
When Celtic takes the field for the first Champions League Group match of the 2012/13 season, it will bring with it the natural high of having come through the most turbulent twelve months in the history of the Scottish game. The things that made the last year unique largely happened outside of our house, but they had an effect on us, as they did every club in the land. Because of them, we will be taking the field not only as champions, but more, we will be walking onto that pitch as the one undisputed superpower of the Scottish game.
We belong there, on that stage, as a reflection of what and who we are.
Champions League football is coming home. I can’t wait for the music to start.
Ordered Phils book last thursday from amazon, goin to salou on tuesday and was expecting to have it to take with me. I still havnt received it anyone else have a problem?
Nice 1 granda mike on clyde:-))
BSR- yes I’ve got my tickets, Eurochamps will need to badger the celebs in the gazebo to offload his spares, I’m sure Rod and Billy will be sorted already though.
magnificentseven
18:38 on 14 September, 2012
To see Sevco liquidated before Oldco, this would be a thing of great beauty.
bhoylo83
18:57 on 14 September, 2012
The first two prints of the book sold out, they are printing a third, ordered mine yesterday. 2-3 weeks delivery, hope yours arrives in time.
After all this Juninho rubbish, are there still any Celtic supporters who still buy The Record or have we learned nothing from the way in which the Liverpool fans treated The Sun?
I was pointed to this post on TSFM late last night
Seems the Hammers fans have a better grasp of the SEVCO situation than the Scottish MSM :)))))))
Till later off to a meeting
HAIL HAIL
proudbhoy
18:36 on 14 September, 2012
I think Celtic are just trying incorporate a commendable ‘charitable’ incentive in their drive to maximise SB sales …… I think it’s a great idea…….there are many overseas Celtic fans who will jump at the chance to support this initiative, and many local fans, who can’t afford to buy SB’s, will also benefit, …………… AND WILL BE DELIGHTED..
I remember meeting many overseas Celtic shareholders at the first AGM, and the ‘pride’ they displayed was inspiring…….. Would be good to know how successful the initiative is …….
goldstar
He’s Celtic to the core, and only doing packages ;-)
NoSingles CSC
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPS
zendavista says:
September 13, 2012 at 23:53
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I have been following this saga for the last 8 months and though I am not Scot I have found the goings on enthralling.thought I would put this link up to give you an Idea of a West Ham posters take on all the goings on : http://kumb.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=138488&start=1340
doc is neil lennon
19:01 on 14 September, 2012
I would need ANOTHER sedative………. LOL
I see the ole (pap)parazzi have caught caught the young sunbathers.
What Pips Lark CSC
67heaven … i am neil lennon..!!.. ibrox belongs to the creditors
19:09 on
14 September, 2012
I can hardly keep the smile off my face as it is!
Pogmathonyahun aka Laird of the Smiles
The Celtic club in Greenock would be a safe bet, but as the other poster said it is a bit clichy . The safest place imo would be the AOH club on the Clune Brae in Port Glasgow, all Tims and never any trouble, if he ever wanted to go up to any games I could get him on the Supporters Bus.
HH
Kevin Drinkell insists Ally McCoist’s personality can help attract players to Rangers
Neil Lennon puts personal disappointment of 2007 Scottish Cup final behind him to win first trophy as Celtic manager
Chief Executive Peter Lawwell has to be accountable for Celtic’s slump, says ex-Parkhead hero Andy Walker
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Football
I ‘m more interested in securing Celtic future than winning World Cup place, admits Morten Rasmussen
Above the only articles along with Juninhio that Scott Mc Dermot has wrote on Celtic in the Daily Record.
I have been told by Hugh Keevins that he gets four three sevco tickets for every article.
Hail HAil
Regardless of the joy the Friday night quiz can bring I am in Chelmsford tonight, and I’m taking a couple of German colleague out to let them see the delights of English culture, the Pub on a Friday night, might be an early night. Essex here we come.
Have a good night CQN.
Just got a phone call from Mrs.TimsinCMH, she ordered me a Celtic Park paving stone for our anniversary and the replica has arrived in Ohio. That alone was superb but now we have an Overseas Season ticket option. When I told her that, she says ” Merry Christmas to you “. She already bought me the new home and away tops sans sponsor. Turning 50 in February was brilliant. Never thought for a moment that it would come with all these goodies plus the demise of my in laws club as well. Bhoy do I love my wife.