European football forever shocks, never more so that when Hibs and Hearts eliminate two teams you have heard of. Rosenborg’s star rises and fades with the clock, but they are still vastly more experienced in Europe than Hearts. Coming from two goals down in the tie to win last night was an heroic result.
The ground under Easter Road has been rumbling since the season kicked off. Defeats in both league games to St Mirren and Motherwell, on top of the away loss in Andora in the last Conference League qualification round, suggested Hibernian would lose to Luzern, with Lee Johnson packing his bags before the Festival ends. If he could win next week’s home leg against Aston Villa, they would erect a statue to their diminutive manager – or maybe a life size figurine.
Tottenham’s Irish hero from the 50s and 60s, Danny Blanchflower, once said, “We aim to equalise before the other team score”. It’s a brilliant quote and I forever see echoes of it as teams prepare for a loss. They look for an easy headline, something that shows them on the front foot, before an impending defeat.
For evidence, just look at the headlines Newco have made for themselves this morning. They’re all ‘demandy’ – for tickets to Celtic Park, proffering faux grievances. 700 tickets is not a safe allocation for these games, I have been there and can testify. That lot really need to take crowd safety more seriously.
7,000 is the correct allocation. 700 is an arbitrary nonsense. If forced, I would offer 19 tickets, nine each representing our two nine-in-a-row campaigns and one for our European Cup win. Let 19 of them honour Celtic in this unique way. I am being ridiculous, of course, but they started it.
All we need to see a resolution here is patience. When I first started going to Ibrox, Rangers were rubbish and Celtic fans were welcomed at three sides of the stadium. The Broomloan Stand, half the Standing Enclosure, a third of the Main Stand and the unsold part of the Govan Stand. You can see the stars aligning again!
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It’s Friday!
Act accordingly.
Aipple
I will. 😉
Never a doubt in that BRRB!
HH
SAINT STIVS on 18TH AUGUST 2023 12:10 PM
The Rangers vs Greenock Morton | Viaplay Cup Ticket Information
Club News 04/08/2023
The club can today confirm that we have received our allocation of tickets from Rangers for our match on Saturday 19th August. We are pleased to say we have received 2,600 tickets and a large part of the reason for this is the excellent backing we took to Parkhead in January.
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The Ton have shocked us in the past. I am informed they are playing well and have been scoring goals, allthough beaten last week,
they couldnt could they ?
I still think we could offer them 700 tickets for seats in the 2nd/3rd back rows of the top tier.
PAUL67
“I am being ridiculous, of course, but they started it.”
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Yip, long before any ticket allocation discussion was necessary.
Saint Stivs
A ‘ton’ win tomorrow is about as likely as Hibs and Hearts winning through in the same week in Europe.
Oh wait a minute.
Remember when Rangers used to be dead? Aaaaahhhh, those were the days. Sigh…………
Good afternoon all from the Brazen Head. An overcast day in old Glasgow Town. But it’s Friday! Mind you, every day is a Friday to old Johnny. 😆🍻
Happy to see Stephen Welsh stay- as a defender he should be entering his peak years now and should be used as both a RB cover and a CB. If he has not developed further by 26, he will leave.
Very sorry to see Rocco Vata determined to go. After Ben Doak, Rocco was our most promising youth player, with Ben Summers a close 3rd. I hope he is not going to disappear into a reserve set up with a top 6 EPL club, and I , especially hope, Ange has not intervened for Spurs, as I think that will be a mistake.
What these talented youngsters need to develop is game time at the 20-22 age range. A defensive Fleetwood may not have suited him as it does for Lawal and Montgomery but a Championship team down south was not beyond him.
Ange gave Doak and Lawal some game time when the league was won but it has not been enough to satisfy them. Doak was determined to leave and, unlike most of the others who went to Bayern and City, he has progressed at Liverpool and is getting a first team chance early.
Shame about Rocco-though- an exciting player.
When I first started going to Ibrox, Rangers were rubbish and Celtic fans were welcomed at three sides of the stadium. The Broomloan Stand, half the Standing Enclosure, a third of the Main Stand and the unsold part of the Govan Stand.
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I watched just last night the original Rangers 2 Celtic 4 1983 game. The free Broomloan – 7,500 tims, Half the enclosure 4,500 (and the easiest place for jumpin the turnstyle) , a third of the wooden seated main stand (3,000) and two sections of the govan (2000) i seem to recall these tickets got offered just days before the fixture and were on sale as a walk up to the celtic pools office).
So over 17,000 celtic supporters there
the half time walk on lives long in my head, and the surreal turn of events that united win the league and we pump the huns and still go home happy-ish.
watch billy, davie and tommy, i was filling up a bit watching, as a family there were maybe 12 of us there, 6 no longer with us,
Rangers 2 Celtic 4 – 1983
Rangers 2 Celtic 4 – 1983
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvNngda1l4w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvNngda1l4w
17.000+ celts in a 39,000 crowd, so the huns had 5,000 os so empty seats, oh how we laughed.
I thought the hibs result and performance over the 2 legs put the huns result against Servette into perspective. Swiss football looks someway off their best.
Tommy and Frank, god bless them. it is bloody 40 years ago, where does time go.
https://wikifoundryimages.s3.amazonaws.com/ff4f28ae156eddf07141e713d6d83c22
https://wikifoundryimages.s3.amazonaws.com/d3c5bd9a679581427bc0fb57650dc12e
Vata, another youngster chasing the money at an early age.
Looking at the opposition ahead for Hibs, Hearts & Aberdeen, i don’t see any of them beating their opponents over 2 legs.
A wee funny aside which might further ensure the most important game this Saturday is Athens v Zagreb.
Not just about the Zagreb goalie
It would obv suit us for that reason that they lose.
It would further not suit our rivals should they fall through the trap door into Europa.
Their fans and media champions have been speaking of Pot 1 Europa status and easy routes deep to another post Xmas European run with the associated co eff points.
They spoke of guaranteed pot 1 seeding in Europa.
The reality is that they will not be Pot 1 should Zagreb lose either to Athens or to their Qualifier opponent.
Don’t let the facts mixed up with fantasy fake news though.
Hearts might win but probably needed 2nd leg at home.
Aberdeen might win but the other mob are mid season. Although they did lose it a team from Faroe Islands in CL qualifiers
Hibs is a very long shot but AV priority won’t be Europe.
’82 -’83 season.
There’s a league we blew, losing during the run-in for the title 2-3 at home to 10- man United who scored the winner with just 6 minutes left to play. On a breakaway, of course. ( It was a ‘worldie’ by Milne, right enough).
Did we ever mention ‘game management’ back then??
2 points for a win in those days, and we lost out by a point in the end.
Still annoys me. (Hide it well, though).
GLASSTWOTHIRDSFULL @ 12:23 PM,
Indeed, it seems the fans have got their way
The old firm is alive and well and living in Glasgow
BURNLEY78 @ 12:42 PM,
Be a real laugh if they don’t get a UCL pot 3 berth and have to settle for a Europa pot 2 berth.
:))))))
HIl Hail
and we scoop up the extra monies as Scotland sole participant in the CL.
oh my days.
Paul67
We need to revisit the origins of the ticket scandal where it’s clear Sevco new club moved the goalposts and trod all over the SFA. It’s fine wanting more season tickets, Celtic have had this advantage since Sevco were Rangers.
When John Collins scored a peach to snatch a draw at IBrokes there were no token tims apart from one or two overhead in an aeroplane. Broken seats! there proved fraudulent management said, move along Timmy. Sevco youngsters caught the bug that day but have been unable to stay alive long enough, to make their stadium as big as Parkhead
Proportionate and reasonable number allocations are achievable but not when it’s your nemisis who are now more likely to turn you over at home. Open discrimination it seems like an old signing policy, tuped over to Sevco, who can seat, any other team worldwide except Celtic.
No turning back now Celtic ram their tickets, this ‘sporting spectacle’ is as dead as Rangers.
PAULSTHROUGHBALL88 on 18TH AUGUST 2023 12:52 PM
’82 -’83 season.
There’s a league we blew, losing during the run-in for the title 2-3 at home to 10- man United who scored the winner with just 6 minutes left to play. On a breakaway, of course. ( It was a ‘worldie’ by Milne, right enough).
Did we ever mention ‘game management’ back then??
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I was young, and a bit naive, and was always annoyed that United defended better than us, and were masters at hitting on the break, after losing 2-3 at home on the wednesday, we went to Pittodrie and lost 1-0, With plenty of grumblings on the bus that we should wisen up and stop attacking so much as we get suckered all the time. And even that we had lost the league that day.
Aberdeen gamesmanship by that time was off the scale, we played the better football, they took the points
My naievity as i thought they were all cheating us.
Also, if Dundee had equalised , Celtic and United would have been in a play off as identical finishing records.
oh and the back pass rules, the keeper being the out ball cos he could pick it up and waste another minute, and their offside traps.
and packy prone to dropping a ball at the feet of an onrushing aberdeen striker, i mean seriously how many times.
I’ve seen absolutely nothing in Rocco Vata that supports the idea he would be a miss. A couple of crosses late in a game but not sure I’d be confident placing him above Abada, Yang or Forrest in the squad right now.
Maybe he’ll prove me wrong but I think Rocco suffered a bit of the old Rudi as his da + cult status + irishness, overhyping him.
No Ben Doak at the end of the day….
HH
Nice one Pablo.
The Danny Blanchflower quote – which I’d never heard before – made me laugh out loud.
St Stivs – the biggest takeaway from your snip for me was not “Can Morton do it” but rather they are getting 2,600 tickets.
Appreciate this is mandatory for cup games but it takes a special kind of mental gymnastics (by both Sevco and SMSM) to process and publicise 700 for us & 2,600 for Morton simultaneously.
Idiots.
PS – 12 years ago today ….
Hearts 0 Spurs 5.
I remember this match vividly.
It was a truly embarrassing mismatch.
Good luck to Hibs against Villa.
Welsh will be nowhere near a start when the others are fit.Dont know what planet some are on.There for Europe numbers,and in case we have two injured CHs.Good boy,pure Tim,but below the standard required.
What’s the problem with Vata going out on loan?His club Captain did it,at Notts County no less.If he wants leave,sure some could order him a Taxi.Ben Summers,a better player,for me,prepared to put the work in.
Won’t be the first” Prospect” to land on their arse in obscurity trying to be smart.
Meanwhile,back at the pool,we will gub Killie,Spain will outclass England,and Scum will still be greeting about tickets.Oh,and Mickey Beale never managed one game at Ibrox last season.No Siree,not ever,ever,ever.A plague on the houses of those who differ.
Good afternoon from a wet North Wales 😞
Give them 7000 tickets on the basis they give us 7000 – either that or diddly squat.
AJ pictured training with the team. Yeoooooooooo…..
CCV and Hatate absent. Boooooooooo……..
Disruption continues.
HH
BURNLEY78 on 18TH AUGUST 2023 12:44 PM
Hearts might win but probably needed 2nd leg at home
Aberdeen might win but the other mob are mid season. Although they did lose it a team from Faroe Islands in CL qualifiers
Hibs is a very long shot but AV priority won’t be Europe.
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Aberdeen’s opponents are 1 point off the top of the Swedish league, and are 20 games into their season. They underestimated Klaksvik from the Faroes (as did a couple of others) and paid the penalty. Learned their lesson and hammered Zalgiris in both legs.
Villa will prioritize Europe over the LC, Emery loves a Europa League trophy. I’d imagine the Hibs defence are already having nightmares about facing Bailey, Diaby & Watkins alone. Villa will wrap the tie up at Easter Rd imo.
Turkeybhoy, the mooted move for Vata is a perm, not a loan…
Or were you suggesting a loan move as a wiser alternative? Soz, may have picked you up wrongly…
TURKEYBHOY @ 1:19 PM,
My understanding is the young players that Celtic think are good prospects were offered a new contract and went out on loan.
Rocco wanted to go put on loan but refused the new contract.
Presumably The Bens and Bosun went with a high level personal development plan from Celtic to work on in their loan spell.
Why should Celtic do this for Rocco if he wants to walk away buckshee or sign a pre-contract in January.
Hail Hail
SAINT STIVS on 18TH AUGUST 2023 1:12 PM
“oh and the back pass rules, the keeper being the out ball cos he could pick it up and waste another minute, and their offside traps.”
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Hence the nickname Maurice Backpass.
Suppose Dundee made it up to us just 3 years later.
Glad Brendan has brought Stephen Welsh back into the fold, on merit. CCV Nawrocki, Lagerbielke and Welsh could be the four competing for two berths. Kobayashi needs more time and expect Liam Scales to rejoin Aberdeen.