Comments from Duff and Phelps yesterday that they were not in favour of changing the SPL voting system were intriguing. Kilmarnock chairman, Michael Johnston, was pretty blatant about his agenda when speaking to the BBC on Saturday, suggesting the actions of the Gang of 10 was a “pro-democracy movement” similar to the Arab Spring, saying:
“It might make it easier for the [Rangers] administrators to get whatever they are going to try to achieve whether it is a CVA or new company to be informed and re-joining the SPL and SFA.
“The support of the 10 clubs might be needed at some point.”
Too right the support of the other 10 clubs might be needed at some point if a new company is to join (not re-join, for goodness sake!) the SPL and SFA.
Back in October last year we predicted Rangers would be liquidated, a Newco would be formed and would be voted straight into the SPL, with only Celtic arguing the need to maintain sporting integrity. Everything we have heard since has reinforced this view.
The debate among the Gang of 10 has matured so far they see no issue in openly offering to support a Newco’s entry into the league in return for money (which we predicted earlier this month), mostly generated from Celtic fans, as it happens.
We await Johnston responding by sticking to his high-minded principles and telling any Newco they will not enjoy Kilmarnock’s support.
Duff and Phelps still have an enormous amount to achieve before they will even be in a position to apply for entry to the SPL on behalf of a Newco but if they do, they will surely offer the Gang of 10 a take-it-or-leave-it proposition. The Gang of 10 will take it. This debate is not about democracy, it’s about directors at clubs like Kilmarnock, who I believe now have debts of over £10m, finding a way to deal with their years of unchecked overspend.
The debate around St Mirren director, Ken McGeoch, would surely outrage sensibilities in any country in the world so I’m pleased his fellow directors have called for his resignation. In November last year McGeoch invited Rangers company secretary Gary Withey to a meeting at the St Mirren boardroom where he revealed player contract details.
St Mirren are up for sale and could be purchased for what previously amounted loose change at Ibrox; McGeoch met Withey to discuss him purchasing the club from his fellow directors and shareholders.
For a Rangers director, influence like that should be impossible to acquire.
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By JOHN SHIELDS
Published: Today at 00:08
RANGERS fans will pay off the club’s debt to Dunfermline tomorrow.
A total of £22,000 will be handed over to Pars by Gers legend Sandy Jardine front man for the Rangers Fans Fighting Fund.
The RFFF say the Fifers deserve to have the debt wiped out because they are a “club of honour”.
But Dundee United, who are owed £70,000, won’t get a penny.
RFFF chairman Andrew McCormick said: “Rangers fans were angry when Dundee United levied an extra charge on Rangers ticket holders if they wished to attend an abandoned game at Tannadice.
“Dunfermline are suffering because of a situation that was not of their making.
“It also demonstrates to the Scottish football authorities that Rangers fans not only have an allegiance to the club — but are aware of the impact the club’s situation is having elsewhere in the game.”
Meanwhile, Gers are set for a £250,000 windfall after FIFA ruled Tromso owe them compensation for the sale of Thomas Kind Bendiksen.
Tromso director Stig-Ove Sandnes said: “Rangers weren’t interested in a transfer fee because they thought they would get more money in compensation. Now we know why.”
Did one of the two not sit in court and tell how they went about buying stuff and built the parcel bomb and now charges are being dropped!
If they walk away with a slap on the wrist, how can any Catholic/Irish put an X in the box for independence.
Do you really want this bigoted shoite hole to have free reign over us?
That last comment tells you that Rangers have friends in very high places within UEFA … that will not change with or without an existing Rangers
HAil Hail
loose lips sink ships……could the RFFF be in cohoots with yorkston all the time? RFFF are actually buying tickets for Dunfermline games, not giving cash so not to break admin rules? Just a thought( from a good source)
If the attempted murder charges are dropped for assault charges just go and speak to any Scottish person and see what they think. I´m willing to bet the VAST majority will see it as only fair.
Hail Hail
ASonOfDan on 29 March, 2012 at 11:05 said:
So we will continue with the present set up which is being part of the Union which oppressed Ireland for 800 years, i can see your logic?
RogueLeader on 29 March, 2012 at 11:02 said:
However in light of the evidence you wouldn’t get a conspiracy to murder charge to stick. It would be like posting somebody a box with a ticking clock on it, with bomb written on the outside, that was as likely to kill somebody as the stuff they sent according to the expert bomb disposal witness
Nope, they used hydrogen peroxide, nails, timer but no detonator.
Their stupidity or lack of knowledge in building these devices shouldn’t come into play.
RogueLeader on 29 March, 2012 at 11:02 said:
Not sure how appropriate it is to be discussing a live criminal trial.
The maximum sentence for conspiracy on indictment is, I think, life.
Awe_Naw – I was stunned they were never charged with Terrorism offences to start with. If the Police had been serious from the outset and charged them under that, they could have really messed them up. Held for any length of time they want etc.
The way this has been handled from the start highlights this pit of a country.
Why did the PF proceed with a conspiracy to murder knowing the expert bomb disposal guy was going to say non-viable device? When they 2 pipe up with the same, as they did, no way could you get a conspiracy to murder to stick.
Complete joke.
Kit – I was thinking of Lennie’s response. He is unlikely to walk but I would perfectly understand it if he did. If you cannot rely on the judicial system to protect you then you are in grave danger.
The Honest Mistake – whatever we think an expert bomb disposal witness said the device was non-viable. These 2 cretins pipe up with “we only meant to scare them and deliberately made it non-viable” means you couldn’t persuade a jury they were trying to kill those 3. How could you?
As I said I think big mistakes have been made here regarding what they were charged with.
greenjedi on 29 March, 2012 at 10:53 said:
So sending a bomb to someone that fails ISN’T Attempted Murder!!!!!! FFS If they done what they where intended to do it would have been Murder so how is it not Attempted Murder???????
The legal system in this country is almost begging for a Catholic uprising!
The legel system in this country is just letting every inbred bigoted hun that it is open season on anybody regarded as Irish, catholic or Celtic.
I have said to the wife from day 1 of this farce that the scum would walk.
This country no can no longer surprise me.
Had it been Lord Walter Smith or Sir Alistair McCoist facing these thugs, things would be very different. These guys would be facing life sentences.
ernie – we aren’t talking about anything other than what is already in the public domain
RL
somebody leaves a non viable device that contains hydrogen peroxide, nails, timer in the wrong place it doesn´t need a detonator
Hail Hail
Muirhead & Mckenzie have been found guilty of nothing yet, even the reduced charge of ‘conspiracy to assault’.
If they constructed a home-made bomb that was later deemed ‘not a viable a device’, but contained hundreds of nails, then it should be conspiracy to murder. The fact they were incompetent at building a working bomb should be neither here nor there. They believed it would go off.
If the case is that they believed it wouldn’t go off, then it’s judged to be a sick practical joke, and they will be acquitted of all charges.
RogueLeader on 29 March, 2012 at 11:13 said:
‘As I said I think big mistakes have been made here regarding what they were charged with. ‘
Sounds familiar.
lionroars67
You seriously think we will be better off under a Nationalist Party.
How did the jewish minority in Germany fair under one of those?
Rogue-leader
As I said I think big mistakes have been made here regarding what they were charged with.
Really I think it is deliberate. Prosecutor gets mouth watery .. defender knows he has a better chance
funny handshakes all round
HAil HAil
lionroars67 on 29 March, 2012 at 11:08 said:
”So we will continue with the present set up which is being part of the Union which oppressed Ireland for 800 years, i can see your logic?”
1.The Union hasn’t existed for 800 years.
2. Prior to the Union Scotland took an active part, on its own initiative, in colonising and oppressing Ireland.
3. Following the Union the Scots were to the forefront when it came to dishing out treatment to the Irish.
Captain Braveheart
http://www.colinhendrylies.com/
Oh the dignity ……
Awe_Naw – we both know that, persuading a jury of intent to murder would be different. We saw how jury’s behave in this stinkhole with that Hearts thug….
As I said there surely would have been something far more appropriate to charge them with than intent to batter somebody when they have sent this stuff, and caused this carnage and terror.
I am expecting the charge to be reduced to threatening behaviour or breach …… after all, nobody got hurt.
RFF then announce that these are honourable men and give them a few quid.
Henriks Sombrero – it sounds far too familiar
Paul67 et al
Interesting topic coming up on Radio 5, phone-in too, a discussion about mass singing at football grounds and how it could or should be dealt with. Let us see what clubs get a mention!
Is the Rangers Fighting Fund, (Fighting for Oversees donations) going to award Celtic the £2million pounds we will apparently lose due to the new Sky deal going south because of their inability to carry on.
ASonOfDan on 29 March, 2012 at 11:16 said:
lionroars67
You seriously think we will be better off under a Nationalist Party.
How did the jewish minority in Germany fair under one of those?
Take a deep breath, let some oxygen in
The SNP have many faults, comparing them with Hitlers Nazi party is ludicrous
Presumably both conspiracy to murder and conspiracy to assault would both require the device to be intended to go off, so whether it was viable or not is neither here nor there. How can you assault someone with a deliberately non-viable device (as seems to be the defence)?
Murder charge dropped in the Lenny nail bomb trial by order of judge at Glasgow High Court. Surprise. Surprise. This is taking the same pattern as the Swinecastle assault case.
RaRaRasputin @ 11.21 – Bingo!
I think we need to prepare ourselves for this pair walking…..
It is effing scandalous.
Dunfermline famously lay down at the pyjama party back in 2003 to help the huns to one of their tainted titles.
Debt settled.
Dundee Utd complain about mccurry trying to cheat the huns to another tainted title.
Debt not settled.
So if you want YOUR money from the huns.
Bring your pyjama’s to ibrokes, assume position and keep your mouth shut when you get shafted.
Or just copy m’well.
Two men accused of sending improvised explosive devices to Celtic manager Neil Lennon and other high profile supporters of the football club are no longer charged with conspiring to murder them due to insufficient evidence.
Trevor Muirhead and Neil McKenzie now stand charged with plotting to assault Mr Lennon, former MSP Trish Godman and the late Paul McBride QC, as well as various people at the premises of Cairde Na hEireann, by posting devices they believed were capable of exploding or igniting.
At the High Court in Glasgow, trial judge Lord Turnbull directed the jury, telling them the term “and murder” had been deleted from the charge.
Lord Turnbull said: “You can only be asked to adjudicate on evidence which, as a matter of law, would be sufficient to entitle you to reach a decision.
“The evidence led in this case, no matter what you decide to make of it, would never be sufficient in law to entitle you to conclude a conspiracy to murder has taken place.”
He told the jury the development had arisen during legal debate on Wednesday afternoon.
the court news, so far, really does beggar belief. Quite frankly i’m speechless.
RogueLeader on 29 March, 2012 at 11:19 said:
When does coincidence become a pattern ? I.E. Let’s pick a charge we know won’t stick.
If these bottom feeders get off with this we should be organising a protest outside the Scottish Parliament and Downing street.
Celtic Mac
What as
in Walk with me Oh Mc Coist
through the darkest jail and passage way
that kind of mass singing ?
Hail Hail
Ciao ——
Lovely sunny day way down south.—— hundreds of migrating Ruffs are resting on my stone dyke walls .
Note that the fact that Whyte owns 2 things called Rangers and owns Ibrox is beginning to be acknowledged..
As time goes by , the price of him walking , rises and rises..
Lovely —
Back to planting cacti -way down south.
lionroars67 on 29 March, 2012 at 11:20 said:
‘The SNP have many faults, comparing them with Hitlers Nazi party is ludicrous’
Aye right enough.
I can’t imagine fat Eck being able to paint an entire apartment in one afternoon.
Henriks Sombrero – if 2 loyalists in Belfast had posted these devices to 3 Republican public figures what would they have been charged with? Conspiracy to murder?
They conducted a terror campaign….the charges in no way reflect their actions