Comments from Duff and Phelps yesterday that they were not in favour of changing the SPL voting system were intriguing. Kilmarnock chairman, Michael Johnston, was pretty blatant about his agenda when speaking to the BBC on Saturday, suggesting the actions of the Gang of 10 was a “pro-democracy movement” similar to the Arab Spring, saying:
“It might make it easier for the [Rangers] administrators to get whatever they are going to try to achieve whether it is a CVA or new company to be informed and re-joining the SPL and SFA.
“The support of the 10 clubs might be needed at some point.”
Too right the support of the other 10 clubs might be needed at some point if a new company is to join (not re-join, for goodness sake!) the SPL and SFA.
Back in October last year we predicted Rangers would be liquidated, a Newco would be formed and would be voted straight into the SPL, with only Celtic arguing the need to maintain sporting integrity. Everything we have heard since has reinforced this view.
The debate among the Gang of 10 has matured so far they see no issue in openly offering to support a Newco’s entry into the league in return for money (which we predicted earlier this month), mostly generated from Celtic fans, as it happens.
We await Johnston responding by sticking to his high-minded principles and telling any Newco they will not enjoy Kilmarnock’s support.
Duff and Phelps still have an enormous amount to achieve before they will even be in a position to apply for entry to the SPL on behalf of a Newco but if they do, they will surely offer the Gang of 10 a take-it-or-leave-it proposition. The Gang of 10 will take it. This debate is not about democracy, it’s about directors at clubs like Kilmarnock, who I believe now have debts of over £10m, finding a way to deal with their years of unchecked overspend.
The debate around St Mirren director, Ken McGeoch, would surely outrage sensibilities in any country in the world so I’m pleased his fellow directors have called for his resignation. In November last year McGeoch invited Rangers company secretary Gary Withey to a meeting at the St Mirren boardroom where he revealed player contract details.
St Mirren are up for sale and could be purchased for what previously amounted loose change at Ibrox; McGeoch met Withey to discuss him purchasing the club from his fellow directors and shareholders.
For a Rangers director, influence like that should be impossible to acquire.
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hamiltontim on 29 March, 2012 at 09:53 said:
”Why would Yorkson be stupid to take the cash from the ‘fighting warchest’?”
It would be stupid because
1. he will be open to allegations of favouritism
2. it will drive a wedge between Dunfermline and the rest of the gang of ten and
3. Dunfermline would in any case receive payment from the SFA of the amount they’re due from the huns.
Ernie
3. Why ?
The SFA are refusing to pay Dundee Utd for a SC tie against Rangers telling them that they need to get the money from the huns.
Dunfermline game was an SPL game
Hail Hail
“means the disgraced owner still technically clings to enough power”
And the chickens come home to roost admist the PR guff.
There is nothing “technical” about it. Whyte OWNS Rangers. He OWNS Ibrox. D&P cannot force him to sell to anyone. They could try taking him to court to get the takeover annulled but I imagine he won’t roll over on that and that sort of court case would take considerably longer than an afternoon at the Court of Session.
Tick Tock
Whyte has ALL the cards and hasn’t played a single one of them yet…..
The MSM spin on the RFF is no more than can be expected.
They still will not take them to task lest they be cut off. Rancid kebab rather than succulent lamb but still propaganda to fill their columns.
The fact that they are preferencing specific creditors over other should not be within their control and D&P should distance themselves from it. But nothing in this soontobeliquidation is following rules.
The rules on how, who what can sell, buy etc are very much in the public domain. If the MSM do not have access to it then the RTC and Scots Law thoughts shine a torch in the right direction. But multiple buyers and saving der Hun sells more.
There is so much that has to be looked at. There is still no follow up to Paul Murrays claim that HMRC showed him the Ticketus deal as part of an enquiry.
1. This information was confidential.
2. PM was not a director at that time
3. It’s legaility or otherwise does not principally concern HMRC or it’s investigation.
4. As a director and an accountant PM would have known what the EBTs where for and how they should be used.
5. As a non-ex he should have flagged up any problems and demanded to see any other paperwork.
Yet the Blue Sh***s remain the fans favourites so no bad words allowed in print.
Gerry Braiden @GerryBraiden
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Former @RFC_Official Rangers chief executive Martin Bain has dropped his legal action against the Ibrox club. See The Herald for more.
As a football club we have max 4 games to win. St Johnstone, Kilmarnock, Hearts and the final.
As a football club we need we need to focus on preparing for the champions league qualifiers as they will be the next 4 most critical games. We need to strengthen further ( even with Lustig and the Polish CH).
We need to manage the SFA assault on Lenny ( in some ways it is priority no 3 ) ; In every negative there is a positive and the SFA attacks have helped bolster the Celtic support behind Lenny and the Team which will help in our pursuit of the double.
Finally Dermot and the board need to manage our clubs interests as the rudderless ship heads to the rocks. Next season we could have thee champions league money including the £3m extra for no other Scottish team. If we need to play hardball and use walking away from the sky deal as leverage we would have a significant financial buffer with CL qualification.
If Peter Lawwell and the board prepare and plan well there is only going to be strong club in Scotland for the forseable future.
Ha, Ha Stupid huns. What did they expect? Paul67 nailed this one again.
Frustrated Blue Knights leader Paul Murray has revealed that he may have to pull out of his bid to save Rangers.
Despite claims from administrators Duff and Phelps that Craig Whyte is an irrelevance the man that put Rangers into administration remains in control of 85% of the clubs’ shareholding.
Whyte is showing no sings of giving up his stake in the club forcing Murray to consider the prospect of pulling out of his bid to save the club.
“There have been conflicting reports in recent days about the validity of Whyte’s position,” former Rangers director Murray told the Daily Record.
“I’ve spoken to the administrators about this today and been told by them that Whyte is not prepared under any circumstances to sell his shares to my consortium.
“The administrators have told me they are prepared to take legal action to deal with this issue.
“While I was pleased to hear them say that, as things stand the Blue Knights cannot be successful. I have little choice but to consider our position.
“What is the point in us presenting a bid we know will not be accepted?
“Unless I can legally obtain Whyte’s shares I cannot enter into discussions about how best for the club to exit administration through a CVA (Company Voluntary Arrangement).
“This is fundamental to our plans to stop the club going into liquidation. While I am hugely disappointed in Whyte’s actions I can’t say I’m surprised.”
In case the bares forgot, this is what they are still up against.
The focus on Rangers will today switch from the search for a new owner for the club to its fight with the Scottish Football Association’s judiciary panel at Hampden.
Following an independent inquiry into the administration-hit Scottish champions, which was led by former judge Lord Nimmo Smith, Rangers’ owner Craig Whyte was issued with notices of complaint over breaches of two disciplinary rules.
Rangers were also served with notices of complaint over five alleged breaches of rules, including failing to abide by SFA regulations over the ‘fit and proper person’ test.
The cases will be heard along with a previously announced notice of complaint over the club’s failure to pay Dundee United money owed from February’s William Hill Scottish Cup clash at Ibrox.
The SFA’s three-man judiciary panel will deal first with Celtic defender Cha Duri’s claim of unfair dismissal in Sunday’s Old Firm clash at Ibrox and after that Whyte and Rangers’ charges will be addressed.
Whyte, ruled unfit by the SFA to be a club official, has been invited to attend but is likely to be represented by a lawyer.
Rangers will be represented by lawyers Biggart Ballie, Andrew Dickson, head of the football department at Rangers, and one of the Duff and Phelps’ Administration team, although not Paul Clark or David Whitehouse, who will continue speaking with prospective buyers.
The three-man panel will be chosen from over 100 members of the SFA’s ‘cab rank’ system which includes former managers, players and referees but in this instance, it will have a heavy legal flavour.
Rangers claim there are mitigating factors and will hope to persuade the panel to distinguish between the actions of one man and the actions of the club.
The club and Whyte have both been hit with two identical charges – allegedly breaching rule 66 by bringing the game into disrepute and rule 71, which decrees that clubs and officials should “act in the best interests of Association Football and shall not act in any manner which is improper”.
The inquiry had already judged that Rangers should face disrepute charges on four counts – obligations and duties of members, official return, financial records, and division of receipts and payment of expenses (Scottish Cup).
Rangers have not submitted audited accounts, required by the end of last year.
The Scottish champions have also been accused of failing to comply with the laws of the game’s governing bodies – specifically rule 10.2(g) of the SFA’s own articles of association, which highlights club officials who have been disqualified as a director within the previous five years.
Whyte was disqualified for seven years in 2000 and did not declare this until November 31 – six months after buying out Sir David Murray’s majority stake and six weeks after the penalty was publicly revealed in a BBC documentary.
A separate rule potentially breached states that member clubs shall procure that officials, team staff and players act in accordance with the above Rule 1.
Rangers have also been accused of a breach in relation to their descent into administration.
Rule 14(g) states that membership may be suspended or terminated, or a fine may be issued, where a club suffers or is subject to an insolvency event.
Rangers still await the outcome of a Scottish Premier League investigation into the alleged non-disclosure of payments to players since 1998.
Wee Pat takes his seat at pre derby press conference. RFC PR man announces “it’s super Ally !!! !. We Pat jumps up “I’ll have Ally any day of the week”.
He still had the soup.
Any similarity to real characters in this piece is purely co incidental.
A few things
Whyte would prefer the huns went into Liquidation over anyother scenario!
Celtic should cancel all Press confrences forthwith and all information issued with copyright notices on the website and Celtic View.
When we get the League Trophy we should the podium with Flags to hide the sponsor logos. In fact we shouuld go further and accept the trophy in the Boardroom with no fuss and then Bankier should walk on the Pitch and hand it to Neilly.
Refuse all away tickets from now on!
Squeeze them till the pips squeak!!!!!
CelticResearch@CelticResearch
Conspiracy to Murder & Assault charges against Trevor Muirhead & Neil McKenzie dropped. Now conspiracy to assault. #horriblypredicatable
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Ah – man in eye of storm tells me SFA and High Court hearings postponed. Will check.
rodow1
Is there any other info?
Rodow1 – is that true mate?? Good grief.
Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on 29 March, 2012 at 09:01 said:
Can you whistle it and I will join in?
It is coming from James Cook at the BBC who is in court
googy
I can play it on my one man band kit bud !!! ;-)
Hail Hail
If that is so and true what chance has Neil Lennon or Celtic in Scotland.
I know people will talk about the technicalities of the case and the fact that we haven’t heard all of the evidence etc etc….. but it stinks.
Rodow1 – I thought the charges were attempted Murder. Are we really saying in this country that you can now run onto a pitch and attack a football manager, then have someone else send him a real letter bomb, and no-one is found guilty of anything other than a ‘conspiracy’ or a Breach of the Peace ?
Kitalba – if it wasn’t for the fact that “they” would win I would hope Lenny walks.
If they had the wrong people all charges would have been dropped and the case dismissed.
I’ve tweeted James Cook for more info, I am only getting it from his twitter so I can’t confirm beyond that. I am absolutely sickened.
rodow1
Having followed the press coverage of the evidence presented in this case, this development does not surprise me.
Where has ‘conspirancy to murder’ come from ? Conspirancy is two bigots sitting in a room discussing sending a bomb. Attempted Murder is surely that bomb actually being sent and not going off ?
If this is true, I am ashamed to be Scottish.
No longer conspiracy to murder, just conspiracy to assault. Assault with a bomb??
Paul Murray in to days media
“Unless I can legally obtain Whyte’s shares I cannot enter into discussions about how best for the club to exit administration through a CVA (Company Voluntary Arrangement).
What about all those discussions that were reported to have taken place between Paul Murray and HMRC and the CVA? indeed apparently HMRC had clearly indicated to Paul Murray that the blue knights would get a CVA arrangement in place at agreeable terms, or was that all spin and as Paul Murray himself says UNLESS he legally obtains Whytes shares he CANNOT enter discussions.
So sending a bomb to someone that fails ISN’T Attempted Murder!!!!!!
FFS If they done what they where intended to do it would have been Murder so how is it not Attempted Murder???????
The legal system in this country is almost begging for a Catholic uprising!
tomtheleedstim
I don’t think it is a case of winning or losing, it is about the safety of a family and the sanity of a good man, it is also about the worth of a nation’s justice system.
Look lads the masons recruit two dangerous dafties to send a bomb to Neil on behalf of Rangers Football club promises of free drink down the lodge etc.
They are just cleaning up their mess
I AM ABSOLUTELY as sally would say NOT SURPRISED AT ALL
Hail Hail
Have they been acquitted yet?
What’s keeping them?
Bhoys as soon as Paul McBride RIP died,the floodgates were opened again, they felt safe.
Celtic plc, must get us out of Scotland. Will not be suprised if Lenny decides enough is enough.
They will stop at nothing to take the joy of Lenny winning the SPL away from him.
KTF
gerryguk7 @ 10:21
Thanks for your reply , I know it’s a lot more complicated than I made out but my concerns are due to the bigoted little backwater that we stay / play in . I dont trust the authorities (football or otherwise) in this country to come to the right conclusions .
Lodge over legal every time with that lot .
EXCLUSIVE
By ROBERT GRIEVE
Published: Today at 00:08
CALUM MURRAY claims Neil Lennon told him to ‘get a f*****g grip’ in their Old Firm tunnel bust-up at Ibrox.
Murray and fourth official Iain Brines have filed their reports to the SFA.
They detail the half-time clash — and SunSport can reveal those are the words they insist were used by the Hoops boss which led to him being sent off.
Lennon — who also now faces a THIRD SFA charge for comments he made ahead of Sunday’s clash with St Johnstone — was not punished for swearing.
Murray opted to take action because Brines told him Lennon continually stepped out of line throughout the first half.
Lennon insisted in the after-match press conference that he did NOT swear during his conversation with the match ref.
But that version of events is different to the two accounts filed by Murray and Brines.
They claim he said: “Get a grip, get a f*****g grip.”
It’s understood Rangers staff witnessed the exchange and are ready to back up the officials’ report even though they have been lying to their own support about the very existence of their club for three years.
Lennon has until Tuesday to reply to the misconduct charge with a hearing scheduled at Hampden for April 19.
He and Murray also faced each other in the referee’s room before the start of the second half, where another exchange took place before the Celts boss was told he was banned from the touchline for the rest of the game.
He was offered the chance by Rangers to sit in the directors’ box.
But Celtic security staff advised him to sit in the press room instead.
Lennon could also be asked to explain comments he made this week ahead of the St Johnstone game.
He said: “It will be nice just to be able to go and think only about a game of football — and maybe have a decent refereeing performance into the bargain.”
Such statements are outlawed in the SFA’s new code of conduct drafted up in the wake of last season’s refs’ controversy.
The punishment can be up to a three-match ban.
Meanwhile, the Celts boss has until tomorrow to reply to ANOTHER SFA charge relating to comments he made about ref Willie Collum after the League Cup Final defeat.
If he refuses to accept any wrongdoing he’ll be given an opportunity to explain himself — most likely on April 19 at the Hampden hearing for the case involving Murray.
So, in the previous case, assault was downgraded to breach of the peace.
And now the conspiracy to murder becomes conspiracy to assault.
What a lovely little country we live in. It stinks to high heaven if you are Irish, Catholic or associated in any way with Celtic. If you are all three then it’s open season.
I imagine this decision has came from the fact the bomb disposal expert has said it wasn’t a viable device and the accused have also said they were deliberately sending non-viable devices.
I would like to have thought they could have came up with a better charge than conspiracy to assault. Something under the terrorism act for instance as this is pure and simple terrorism.
However in light of the evidence you wouldn’t get a conspiracy to murder charge to stick. It would be like posting somebody a box with a ticking clock on it, with bomb written on the outside, that was as likely to kill somebody as the stuff they sent according to the expert bomb disposal witness.
The pair of bigoted cretins should be getting a Terrorism charge though, does anyone know what the max sentence for the new charge is?
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Interview with Regan
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