Comments from Duff and Phelps yesterday that they were not in favour of changing the SPL voting system were intriguing. Kilmarnock chairman, Michael Johnston, was pretty blatant about his agenda when speaking to the BBC on Saturday, suggesting the actions of the Gang of 10 was a “pro-democracy movement” similar to the Arab Spring, saying:
“It might make it easier for the [Rangers] administrators to get whatever they are going to try to achieve whether it is a CVA or new company to be informed and re-joining the SPL and SFA.
“The support of the 10 clubs might be needed at some point.”
Too right the support of the other 10 clubs might be needed at some point if a new company is to join (not re-join, for goodness sake!) the SPL and SFA.
Back in October last year we predicted Rangers would be liquidated, a Newco would be formed and would be voted straight into the SPL, with only Celtic arguing the need to maintain sporting integrity. Everything we have heard since has reinforced this view.
The debate among the Gang of 10 has matured so far they see no issue in openly offering to support a Newco’s entry into the league in return for money (which we predicted earlier this month), mostly generated from Celtic fans, as it happens.
We await Johnston responding by sticking to his high-minded principles and telling any Newco they will not enjoy Kilmarnock’s support.
Duff and Phelps still have an enormous amount to achieve before they will even be in a position to apply for entry to the SPL on behalf of a Newco but if they do, they will surely offer the Gang of 10 a take-it-or-leave-it proposition. The Gang of 10 will take it. This debate is not about democracy, it’s about directors at clubs like Kilmarnock, who I believe now have debts of over £10m, finding a way to deal with their years of unchecked overspend.
The debate around St Mirren director, Ken McGeoch, would surely outrage sensibilities in any country in the world so I’m pleased his fellow directors have called for his resignation. In November last year McGeoch invited Rangers company secretary Gary Withey to a meeting at the St Mirren boardroom where he revealed player contract details.
St Mirren are up for sale and could be purchased for what previously amounted loose change at Ibrox; McGeoch met Withey to discuss him purchasing the club from his fellow directors and shareholders.
For a Rangers director, influence like that should be impossible to acquire.
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Mort, guarantee the gang of 10 have put less work in than you have :-)
Get my email of Paul do we can arrange something for Sunday re taxis, or alternatively put a dot between my forename and surname at yahoo co uk :-)
SffS
Awe_Naw
I’m guessing that the most important of these might be:
“A2.7 The Board may in its absolute discretion waive, relax or grant a period of grace in respect of any Club’s or Candidate Club’s requirement to comply with any part of the Membership Criteria and/or Rules A2.6 and H6.1.”
FF
ernie lynch – A conspiracy of shape-shifting space-lizards would explain a lot about Scottish football. (thumbsup)
From previous thread re goals from corners..
I seem to recall standing in the OK Coral when Dariusz Wdowczyck scored from a corner in a midweek match against Hearts at Minas Morgul and being ordered to retake it, where he duly scored again.
Did I imagine this?
David Icke is regarded as a Masonic Prophet by those who move in lodge circles.
I don’t really care if that’s true or not,but in the Mason infested sludge that passes for news in Scotland today,it might as well be.
I would believe anything of those depraved,corrupt cretins.
The alternate theory is that the SFA and its bungling minions are descendants of the telephone sanitisers, hairdressers, and management consultants who landed here from the Golgafrincham B-Ark. (thumbsup)
philvisreturns on 28 March, 2012 at 13:40 said:
ernie lynch – A conspiracy of shape-shifting space-lizards would explain a lot about Scottish football. (thumbsup)
>>>><<<<
have you seen them? lol !!
gebhoy, 13:28
Rest assured. It is
Shouldn’t there be some sort of investigation by the SPL or SFA into why a Hun Director was in the St Mirren boardroom looking at St Mirren player contracts ?
What will those immoral, repugnant reprobates get up to next ?
ernie….,
what has david icke got to do with anything ?
maybe you can explain your reservations then
you seem to know a lot more about this than most
youv dismiss it like a hun
explain yourself
Henriks Sombrero on 28 March, 2012 at 13:45 said:
No doubt it will be only be investigated IF a complaint had been made just like it would only be investigated IF the Hearts players complained about not being paid.
Talk about having a lack of cajones.
Come to think of it, isn’t there some kind of privacy laws restricting anyone not connected with the employer looking at a players contract ?
I wouldn’t be happy if my employer was showing my contract to other companies.
Seven Fishes Four Steaks
No bother, will do. If you’re on twitter you can send me a message through there but I’ll try to get your email.
Mort
Anyway…apropos of nuthin’: I’m excited at the prospect of seeing The Waterboys ra morra ; “An Evening with Mr. Yeats.” That’ll take my mind off all the orange ordure.
Good to see St Ants & St Berts getting a mention on CQN……
From an Ettrick Terrace Bhoy
O G Rafferty,
apologies if you have been asked before,but have you seen the documents
concerned or are you passing on info received
werent the SFA, or someone there hawking aroud big bobs contract ?
from ET
Wanyama suspended for 2 games and UEFA fine is £17k for offensive banner at Udinese game
Henriks Sombrero on 28 March, 2012 at 13:48 said:
werent the SFA, or someone there hawking aroud big bobs contract ?
gordybhoy64, 13:53
No problem. I have seen it.
Feck uefa
St Mirren urge director to consider resignation after boardroom row at Scottish Premier club
St Mirren have presented Ken McGeoch – the Paisley director who recently tried to mount a takeover of the club – with the choice of resigning or facing an extraordinary general meeting.
By Roddy Forsyth11:53PM BST 27 Mar 20121 Comment
St Mirren’s actions come in the wake of Telegraph Sport’s revelation that McGeoch took Gary Withey into the boardroom in November and allowed him to inspect players’ contracts.
Withey was – and remains – Rangers’ company secretary, although he has gone to ground since the Ibrox club went into administration – and was a partner in the London law firm of Collyer Bristow, who acted for Craig Whyte when he assumed control of the Scottish champions last May.
Withey quit Collyer Bristow two weeks ago and the company has said he acted as Rangers’ secretary in a purely private capacity, but when he approached St Mirren again on behalf of McGeoch and his business partner, Paul Davies, in January, it was in his role as a partner with the legal firm.
The Telegraph also revealed that when he visited New St Mirren Park in November, Withey quizzed the club’s general manager, Brian Caldwell, who did not recognise him.
A statement from St Mirren on Tuesday night read: “This meeting was attended by Mr Ken McGeoch, Mr Paul Davies and Mr Gary Withey, company secretary of Rangers Football Club Limited.
“During the meeting, Mr Withey had sight of and inspected commercially sensitive documents of St Mirren Football Club. At one point during the meeting, the club’s general manager was brought into the meeting and asked various questions, including whether or not the club used Employee Benefit Trusts.
“As a director of the company, Mr McGeoch had every right to inspect such documents. The board, however, consider that his decision to show these documents to an office holder of another SPL club is a serious breach of trust and an error of judgment.
“In light of the information available to the board, they have asked Mr McGeoch to resign his position as a director of the company with immediate effect.
“Should he fail to do so within the next 48 hours, we regret the company shall be forced to call, at the club’s expense, an extraordinary general meeting of the company to consider this matter further.”
Neither the Scottish Premier nor the Scottish Football Association have rules that prevent the secretary of one club acting in regard of another, but a senior SPL source said: “It would be highly unusual, to say the least, and we certainly cannot think of an example of such an action taking place.”
What Would Gerard Depardieu? (thumbsup)
O G,
should i be watching channel 4 news tonight with a large
bowl of jelly and ice cream
Relationship between Clubs and the League
A3.1 In all matters and transactions relating to the League and Company each Club shall behave towards each other Club and the Company with the utmost good faith.
philvisreturns on 28 March, 2012 at 13:58 said:
Mon Dieu!!
The stars have came together at this point to give us the Scottish game in our hand. The Huns are bust, the Gang of Ten are issuing empty threats and the SFA and League bodies are being examined like never before.
If there is no place for us at the Premiership table or in a Pan Eoropean league we can dictate the terms for the SPL here.
Tell the Gang of Ten to go. Issue a welcome to other clubs in Scotland to join the SPL with equally shared home TV revenue. Celtic keep the rights to overseas TV, internet etc.I could even be persuaded to allowing NEWCO in under certain conditions. Form one central body to run Scottish football made up from clubs out with the 10. Head it up with an Executive from Europe. A new refereeing body with increased training and penalties for poor performance.
Seize this moment Celtic.
Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire on 28 March, 2012 at 13:47 said:
David Icke was one of the first to publicly raise the whole thing.
I assume you weren’t aware of that.
There’s been an awful lot of conspiracy built on the statement of a vulnerable and suggestible witness who is entirely dependant on her mother who was involved in a bitter and acrimonious marital breakdown.
I’m sorry if you think that being rational and logical makes me sound like a hun.
I’ve always regarded gullibility as being one of their predominate traits.
starry plough – Mange Tout, Rodney! (thumbsup)
From DR today:
‘The extraordinary saga of Rangers’ financial meltdown could now rumble on until the start of the new football season.
Assuming that happens, the administrators in charge of the club are likely to have run up a bill in the region of £3million by then.
To put that into context, that amount would wipe out three months’ worth of the wage cuts agreed to by players to keep the club going.’
Funny.
philvis – Isabelle Huppert
gang of 10 goodbye and good
ridance, celtic join another leauge,
any leauge let them fight it out
over the 50p between them
More importantly, others have seen it too and they will move the story on
philvisreturns on 28 March, 2012 at 13:58 said:
What Would Gerard Depardieu? (thumbsup)
++++++++++++
He’d Wear A Brand New Jersey!
gordybhoy64, 13:59
Lawyers being consulted, so not tonight.
o.g. rafferty
How do come about these
snippets ?
dirtymac \o/ on 28 March, 2012 at 13:43
I think I remember that but in my addled mind it was Hibs? Had a hell of a paper round and was gubbing too many jolly ranchers in those days
HH!
Paul67 et al
I stated last week that we should at least offer an alternative to the “ten”, but that Celtic PLC’s first choice was, ironically, a return to the original ten team league, with an “Old Firm” veto on any major decisions. Peter Lawyell’s statement on Friday, appeared to support my view, but I appreciate that his apparent change of mind re the size of the league may be seen by some as a form of opening gambit. That said, a 14 team SPL simply does not add up. Still, if the “ten” want to follow the leadership of Yorkston and Johnson, and place their faith in a newly bankrupt Rangers FC then so be it. Let us then unilaterally offer our own resignation to the SPL, state that we will use that two year period to help, with others willing, to form a new league, if necessary under the aegis of the SFL. At this point I would settle for the SJFA, or the Highland League. It is obvious to me that both Dunfermline and Kilmarnock see the Bankruptcy route as their salvation, but Yorkston at least, is missing the point, a new voting system designed to save Rangers will not save Dunfermline.