Malcolm Murray, the newly appointed chairman of the Newco club Charles Green hopes to establish, yesterday entertained us with his comments on punishments served on a football team suspected of cheating you for over a decade. He said:
“We’ve had giant punishments already – a European ban, a 10-point deduction, the emotional trauma everyone has suffered. I think, for the good of Scottish football, it’s much better Rangers in the SPL.”
There has been no European ban. Newco will not be eligible for European competition because it is a Newco and Uefa requires three years accounts from participating clubs. They are simply not eligible, they have not and will not achieve the qualification criteria for European football for three years.
The 10-point penalty imposed on Rangers last season for seeking protection from creditors by going into administration is hardly a “giant” punishment. It changed nothing. Rangers were second in the league when it was imposed and remained so. They released no players and went on to defeat Motherwell twice, ensuring they finished the league in second place, earning £900k in additional prize money.
As a punishment, it is the equivalent of banning Ally McCoist from this year’s 100m Olympic competition. Pointless.
Which leaves us with “the emotional trauma everyone has suffered”. Compared to the emotional trauma suffered by Dundee, Motherwell, Gretna, Third Lanark fans, recent events have been nothing more than a focus for some robust rallying calls.
Don’t even start me on the emotional cost of losing the league in 2003, 2005, 2009, 2010 and 2011, all to a team of cheats. How do you measure that? Think back to each day we lost those titles and tell me how you felt about them then and how you feel now, knowing you were cheated.
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RobertTressell on 16 June, 2012 at 18:57 said:
Would be funny if they blagged their into SFL1 only for SFL1 to be disbanded in the new structure :)
Pens
RobertTressel
Also our plc will campaign for exactly that outcome. Behind closed doors of course
HH
Hamiltontim
Feck’s sake,I bet you remember that Gerry still owes you 2 strawberry bon bons from P5!!!!!!!!!!
You’re also forgetting that I’m asking the questions…… no you.
But, I shall indulge you………….
I make no assertion that buying tickets for Pittodrie or Tannadice helps fund der hun, nor was that my intention. You did though mention our greatest rivals and/or competitors in the plural. I therefore had to infer that you meant more than wan.
I therefore conflated this into all competitors in our league and factually….
every time you purchase an away ticket you benefit that rival/competitor.
You’re defence of supporting Celtic in relation to Ipox is judged as deflection and, whilst understandable, is nontheless ruled as irrelevant to the matter at hand.
4/10 D (do they still have competitive scores in tests or is it all neutral shapes and colours now).
themaninchargecsc
HH
Awe_Naw
One from Poland vs. Czech will play against Germany, I think.
Zbyszek
Ok Poland it is then
HH
Awe Naw
It’s a dilemma
Poland – Czech game, basically winner goes through, Poland will really go for it, with Russia likely to be though in the other game, only needing a point
Greece-Russia, as I said Russia are practically through, but then again the Greek God Samaras is playing
HH
Cambpell Ogilvie on 16 June, 2012 at 19:02 said:
That’s the wan. Am no George. Ah did the phone calls, but ah thought it wiz you on the other end, ya big jessie.. :)
Blazer
Aw Naw
has to be Polski. Straight footballing decision. Better game. However, if it’s crap after 10 minutes I’ll try switching.
HH
Awe Naw
Interesting comment from you last night regarding how you saw the future for football in Scotland if the cheats are admitted to the SPL next season.
Care to expand on that?
Awe Naw – I don’t know what the PLC will do. I would be inclined to be finished with fitba. It’s not just the Newco nonsense it’s the billions of £££’s pumped in to the EPL again, the skewing of Euro competitions with access to teams who have won nothing, the general corruption.
I am losing my love for it.
Celtic feel like innocent victims in all of this. Many other clubs have been run well, have not screwed the rest of the football world.
There shouldn’t even be a debate here about Div3, SPL, Div 1 – it should have been a given from the start that a liquidated, dead club cannot be replaced by a new club. It should be written in to the constitution of the game that a dead club be replaced in it’s league by the highest ranking team in the league below and their place given to highest placed non promoted team (in this case 2nd in SFL)
That is the simplest easiest way to sort that out.
But I’m preaching to the choir here. What’s the point?
Hey, Campbell Ogilvie…..
How dare you post on here. I mean, how can you sleep at night?
Wi they goats horns jaggin’ intae ye an’ everythin’
Blazer
Ok bud, no worries, all square, all square.
Must dash, got rules to change and documents to shred.
#masonicdistresssignal
67Heaven. I’m sure BFDJ actually believes that the title belongs at whatever the newclub is called.
Of course, since it’s a new club which at present has no league to play in, it would be difficult to incorporate a sense of belonging to anything or for anything.
All peepel like The Balloon have to give them succour is a residual sense of entitlement based on nothing but an increasingly dimly remembered nostalgia about how they believed things used to be.
It has gone forever and for GOOD, and like some old demented jaikie, Johnston and his ilk cannot bring themselves to face reality, preferring instead to wallow wallow in past imagined glories that only really existed in their stupid deluded hun brains.
” If ye wake up in the mornin’ and the rangers have gone ……chirpy chirpy cheep cheep cheep!!”
Still lovin’ it….I call this KARMAGEDDON!!
and we can bet our bottom dollar that the dirty stuff hasnt even started to come out yet!!
Starting a Fitba TV show with The Pink Faries…
Excellent! SFA Do It…
Glendalystonsils
Am merely keeping in with you internet bampots.
I sleep fine at night. What is this stuff about goats you bampots keep referrin to??? I only wear goat leggins to keep ma jambees warm, comprendez?
What school did you go tae?
Sorry Co , it begins wi’ an ST.
Gazza has just appeared at the place where Rangers used to play with a five year plan and a cynical yet effective hedge fund strategy.
Oh, sorry, misread that – Gazza has just appeared at the place where Rangers used to play with some five alive and a hedge…
Fact!
U
EDB
I think a few clubs might go bust.
I reckon all the SPL clubs are suffering ST sales.
I dont believe that Celtic ST sales are up.
There are many neutrals who pay TV to watch football. Scottish game being corrupt will chase quite a few off.
If Newclub is in the SPL this year or next. Many who bought ST will feel diddled.
The problem being how the Scottish Football authorities are perceived.
I predict a MASSIVE turn off if they are not seen to clean up the game. Which they are not capable due to the qaulity of these administrators
Celtic too suffer the most if they dont at some point hold a hun to their heads.
Those days are over or are they ?
HH
MICK11 on 16 June, 2012 at 19:15 said:
“and we can bet our bottom dollar that the dirty stuff hasnt even started to come out yet!! ”
Yer no kiddin ! Mumblin George is the Patsy when the proverbial hits the fan – though he reckons that’s just for tonights soirée de chèvre ! Heh heh, stupid George.
All square?
Yours in dignified deniability,
RCO.
GREECE GAME ON BBC3 FROM 7-30
Hun=gun
Sorry any guns out there
HH
Mah deer deer deer friend Green Lantern.
Oh Shit ah furgoat tae revert tae mah alternative post name
Doh!
Aw Naw
You call it as you see it.
I’ve not yet renewed and it looks increasingly likely that I won’t.
We’ll continue to have the same cheating, anti Celtic organisations as before.
I’ve had it to be honest.
RobertTressel
First class post sir.
To even pretend that the SFA and SPL are fit for purpose to continue is an insult to anyone that walks upright
HH
Teuchter ar la
How goes it m8? Haven’t seen you post for a while, u been on a bender since liquidation day?
Henrick Larsson…………The king of kings!
Fat Sally……..complete fud!
row z
Oh deary me D- for comprehension skills!!
…and at best D+ for understanding of singular and plural nouns…
The competitors reference was to the huns alone and in my opinion we should not be helping to fund them directly by giving money to Dougie Park.
Sir politely requests that we continue this on a school night? :-)
67Heaven … I am Neil Lennon..!!..Truth and Justice HAS prevailed on 16 June, 2012 at 18:55 said:
Did you hear BFDJ on SSN “Sally will bring back the title to rankers, where it belongs” …….. He actually said that 10 minutes ago…….. There is now collective insanity / denial in the big hoose…….
Surely someone somewhere will confront such an appalling statement…. Deiko, He cannot bring it back to where it belongs because NFL has done it already….. What he should have brought home was his EBT loan which he has not repayed “according to a close source off Ally’s”**** Which may have helped protect his British troops by buying armoury
Zombies walk upright – so does that not count as overnight evolution for my glorious bears??
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The media contributed to the demise of RFC as much as avarice.
Discuss
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EDB
I agree with you.
I dont buy a ST per se
I help finance some family and friends with their ST.
Which I demand to use when I’m home.
Without prompting they all told me to hang on to my cash for now
And that too me is highly significant.
We find out pretty soon.
HH
Hector will do the job the hopelesslessly conflicted SFA wont do…………Expose the dual contracts by issuing formal demands for EBT repayments.
Wattie, Campbell, The beast, bazza…..et al , hope u haven’t spent it?…………………Canny wait?
Poland-Czech Republic – ref Craig Thomson. Oh dear.
Mon Poland
Aw Aye, meant to tell you all, couple of ma pals refereeing the Poland game. Shuggie sorted that oot for the great work done in recent seasons by wee Willie and big Craig to stop you lot fae winnin.
Willie Colum arggggggggggghhhhhhh
Craig Thompson. I.bet the holy goalie is uppermost in his tiny mind.
HH
Wee Willie’s a great ref….eyes in the back of his heid that boy!