Malcolm Murray, the newly appointed chairman of the Newco club Charles Green hopes to establish, yesterday entertained us with his comments on punishments served on a football team suspected of cheating you for over a decade. He said:
“We’ve had giant punishments already – a European ban, a 10-point deduction, the emotional trauma everyone has suffered. I think, for the good of Scottish football, it’s much better Rangers in the SPL.”
There has been no European ban. Newco will not be eligible for European competition because it is a Newco and Uefa requires three years accounts from participating clubs. They are simply not eligible, they have not and will not achieve the qualification criteria for European football for three years.
The 10-point penalty imposed on Rangers last season for seeking protection from creditors by going into administration is hardly a “giant” punishment. It changed nothing. Rangers were second in the league when it was imposed and remained so. They released no players and went on to defeat Motherwell twice, ensuring they finished the league in second place, earning £900k in additional prize money.
As a punishment, it is the equivalent of banning Ally McCoist from this year’s 100m Olympic competition. Pointless.
Which leaves us with “the emotional trauma everyone has suffered”. Compared to the emotional trauma suffered by Dundee, Motherwell, Gretna, Third Lanark fans, recent events have been nothing more than a focus for some robust rallying calls.
Don’t even start me on the emotional cost of losing the league in 2003, 2005, 2009, 2010 and 2011, all to a team of cheats. How do you measure that? Think back to each day we lost those titles and tell me how you felt about them then and how you feel now, knowing you were cheated.
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•-:¦:-•** -:¦:- sparkleghirl :¦:-.•**• -:¦:-• on 17 June, 2012 at 12:36 said:
£££££££££
Me? I think it’s obscene that a time of forced austerity and the most disadvantaged in society being financially whipped by Murdoch’s cronies in our millionaire’s row travesty of a ‘government’ that £3 bn. pounds is being lavished by vested interests on football.
Financial fair play? I don’t think so.
The game is being turned into a preserve of the well-off,and everyone else can scrabble around in the dirt.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quokka
Robert Kelly took a well deserved knighthood.
He ticks most boxes as a ‘right good Celtic man’.
Am I the only Dad in the world that was browbeaten into cutting the lawn on Fathers Day ?
With the mother of all hangovers !!
Madra
Yes
Commiserations
U
Good afternoon gents and Sparkleghirl.
A very happy Father’s Day to you all (not Sparkleghirl)
:-))
Kitalba
A heart warming tale from the southern hemisphere, thanks for that update.
Any reliable transfer news or is that an oxymoron ?
I’m thinking it might be time for the cognitive dissonance article repost.
Gordon J
Not wanting to rehearse the court case but the word used is ‘club’ not ‘member’. sevco is a legal entity holding certain physical assets that could be used by a ‘club’, but as it stands it is not a ‘club’. There is nothing that I can see that explicitly states that being a ‘member’ of the SPL necessarily makes you a ‘club’.
If the SPL are to uphold the standards required by the SFA then they may admit sevco to membership but they’d be lying to describe that ‘member’ as a ‘club’.
HH
Invercelt
While you make some good points.
Whether you agree with the Merkel led policies they are just a reincarnation of Miltons policies. Discredited and brought back at the 1st opportunity.
Bit like the Huns.
¡ǝsoɥ ǝɥʇ ǝɯ ssɐd ‘sʞɔıʞ ʎןɟ ɥbnouǝ (o) /o\ z ʍoɹ,
It all becomes a bit circular here. To be in the SPL you need to be a club. I can’t see how they could become an SPL member without actually being a football club, however that is defined.
But I would agree that Sevco is not a football club right now and neither is Rangers (ia). So neither should be SPL members – something that tomorrow’s Board meeting should ensure!
According to poster ‘Madra Rua’ on CQN, we’re in for a player ‘Oxy Moron’.
More news when I have it.
The BBC is being briefed by Darryl Broadfoot that is why Lamont and Spence have been made to look like clowns this weekend.
When are the likes of Broadfoot and shorthouse going to get their baws toed ?
HH
•-:¦:-•** -:¦:- sparkleghirl :¦:-.•**• -:¦:-• on 17 June, 2012 at 12:36 said
Two things from that.
1) Bang goes the theory that player wages in the EPL will drop and as long as TV income is a legitimate source under FFP (and it is) it simply means a further drop off in the standard in Scotland.
2 ” As BT’s CEO Ian Livingston, says: “BT is already investing £2.5bn in fibre broadband. Securing Premier League rights fits naturally with this, as consumers increasingly want to buy their broadband and entertainment services from a single provider.”
Ian Livingstone is on the Celtic Board and I would hope we are tapping into that expertise and contacts to make Celtic TV and Celtic games more widely avaiable on all mediums with the majority of the income flowing our way.We absolutely MUST find a way to stop being dependent on ticket sales for our livliehood or just keep trading water whilst the water level keeps on rising.
MadraRua@13:41
Robert Green will sign for QPR + Jan Vertonghen will join Spurs ;)
The SFA will make 5% on any player that they sell.
HH
Quokka thread…
We go to Rottnest when we can, it is called Rottnest because the Dutch sailors who discovered Western Australia decades before any Brit came close thought the animals were oversized rats and Dutch for rat is rott so there ye go.
When the Brits finally arrived and colonised WA they turned Rottnest into an Aboriginal prison and the wee museum on the island tells a sorry tale of what went on during this time.
HH
DBBIA
As ever opinions will always differ as can be drawn from the link
http://www.thecelticwiki.com/page/Robert+Kelly
I am in the school of thought that the Kelly dynasty was one that acted out of self interest and almost brought the club to its knees
Enter stage right ‘league reconstruction’. My main fear at this point is that the stage will collapse under the sheer weight of deflective players set upon it.
If such were to be achieved, let’s say within a period of a fortnight (no laughing in the upper circle) then the three bodies SFA, SPL and SFL would have had to gain agreement of sufficient of their members by now to have any chance of working this year.
Whilst the ‘professional game board’ (I told you in the upper circle to stop it!) has been chewing the cud on this for more than a year, the idea that a working possibility has not leaked out is frankly beyond comprehension. It would also make the Board of CFC complicit in this ‘solution’, delivering sevco into the second tier.
However, to date what the resisters have needed is a bit of time to build momentum which has so far undermined every fly move proposed. So let’s be vigilant on the ‘reconstruction’ agenda. The big danger with this one is it might give ‘other chairmen’ the fudge they think they need to escape the noose.
HH
new article posted.
So if Dundee get the place will the fixtures be rearranged to keep them and utd separated
There is no msm journalism left in Scotland. The ‘journalists’ are just p.r. oinks for the masonic establishment and their favourite wee non-existent bigotfest that tries to pass itself off as a football club.
(Jim Spence & Mark Daly are the exceptions that prove the rule.)
It’s a pointless exercise to give any of the yellow rags any credence or money.
It’s becoming pointless to pay a license fee either as the Murdoch gang ‘own’ television in UKplc.
¡ǝsoɥ ǝɥʇ ǝɯ ssɐd ‘sʞɔıʞ ʎןɟ ɥbnouǝ (o) /o\ z ʍoɹ on 17 June, 2012 at 13:22 said:
Does SPL membership ‘confer’ automatic SFA membership? That’s not my understanding?
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It does, see
http://www.celtictrust.net/index.php?func=d_home_article&id=373
enough fly kicks @13.42 yesterday,
Someone who crosses a picket line is a strike-breaker: a scab is someone that you hate. This blog shouldn’t do hatred: please explain why that doesn’t apply to you.
By the time of the Scargill strike, the Thatcher government had won 2 general elections, i.e. the populace at large had chosen them to govern the country on 2 separate occasions. Mr Scargill & his colleagues had been elected to administer the NUM, a very much smaller body: they were not in the same position as the government. The war between government & NUM was started by the latter trying to usurp the functions of government in deciding policy :if one doesn’t like government policy, then in a democracy, one should challenge it at the ballot-box. The NUM could have fought aganst closures pit-by -pit, without challenging the authority of the state, & might very well have won many of those battles: the government could have afforded to “lose” in individual cases, as no principle would have been at stake. Instead, urged on by the egomaniacal Arthur, the NUM declared a war which the government could not allow it to win – & which proved suicidal for the miners. Mr Scargill kept his job, but his members – his cannon-fodder, as someone remarked – lost most of theirs.
What on earth have the – presumably IRA – hunger-strikers to do with the miners’ strike, other than in your fantasies?
I would not be surprised to learn the motivation behind council house sales, as I already know it. The notion that all strikers or potential strikers lived in council houses and that all council houses were occupied by actual or likely strikers is too absurd to require an answer.
Thatcherism gone? Show me where I said that – but first, read what I wrote.
Whatever the “values of the 70s” are or were, feel free to hold them – but please get rid of the hatred which is evident in your post.
You assume that I’ve never dug coal. Please explain why you do so, then explain why you ask whether I have : surely you don’t believe that only those who’ve dug coal are entitled to an opinion?
mickbhoy1888 on 17 June, 2012 at 13:31 said:
If Jock Stein wasn’t good enough to receive
a knighthood ,then no is…….imho.
Evenin all.
Serious request !
Good ideas for a present for the burds burfday this week after being graciously permitted viewng of all football since last week!.
Muchos cheeros in advance! Just lookin for nice romantic ideas.