Appointing a manager is an incredible gamble but the risks can be mitigated, especially at a club which is successful or even pointing in the right direction. In this case, clubs should look to build upon whatever platform they have. Bringing in a new guy with a team development strategy which is completely different from the existing plan accentuates the risks.
This is why the boot room strategy is successful over any extended period. Build on what you have, sign players needed by the squad and who have been scouted extensively. The new man may or may not prove to be the world’s best coach but at least he’ll have a successful infrastructure to insulate the club from lurching into oblivion.
When Gordon Strachan succeeded Martin O’Neill, Gordon picked up a scouting folder, flew to Poland and got on with the development project, much as Martin would have, had he stayed. Celtic were technically no less successful when Tony Mowbray took over in 2009 but the team, and strategy, were tired. A change of direction was appealing, we couldn’t continue to sign Hibs players, although the execution of the new strategy was flawed. The writing was on the wall from the moment we signed £3.9m Marc-Antoine Fortune.
Neil Lennon was an enormous gamble when he was appointed in 2010. He was a rookie, had never signed a player, won a trophy (as manager), or deployed a game plan in anger. There were a few facts in his favour. He’d worked with the other coaches at the club, as well as chief scout, John Park, and Peter Lawwell. For years, they shared a development vision. Celtic retreated into a strategy closely aligned to the vision of the remaining technical staff.
Despite the Scottish Cup semi-final debacle against Ross County Neil got the job, spent much of the next year learning a few painful lessons and hasn’t looked back since. The club gambled on the guy with ultimate responsibility, but they knew he was not about the step out on a ledge.
The time to have a root-and-branch clear-out is following a John Barnes-type season. The manager was wrong, as was tactics, scouting and team development plan. Martin O’Neill brought with him radical and necessary change. This worked at Celtic but, if anything, it is even more risky than appointing a rookie. The lower leagues of England are full of clubs who have gambled unsustainable money on a manager only to come a cropper.
There are gems out there, Pochettino and Simeone, for example, but finding them is a challenge. Pochettino pitched up at Southampton after being sacked by a hugely underperforming Espanyol, and Simeone got the Atletico Madrid job after several years of average-to-poor returns.
Big Davie Moyes was a good manager at Everton but watching him at Manchester United was a bit like watching him 30 years ago in a Celtic shirt. He started by dismantling whatever platforms were in place and served notice he would be following a Haphazard and Wasteful player recruitment policy on the final day of last summer’s transfer window by blowing all his pocket money on a guy he didn’t need and refused to sign for less money a few weeks earlier. He had to go.
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Maggie
Your posts are a wee bit acerbic tonight.
In line with the barbs thrown earlier at some posters offering prayers for people suffering illness.
We can be a cruel cynical group at times.
But I will pray for you all, as I’m sure I’ll need all yours in time
Vhman 0.15
The aim was never to recover what was lost – it was nothing compared to what would be gained by the changes now put in place.
Whilst changes in personel would satisfy emotions, without structural change it would be replacing Ferry with a Peat or Ogilvie.
The changes now agreed between SPFL and SFA are so significant I would be amazed if Paul did not draw attention to them.
I have long advocated that SFA/SPFL membership should be conditional on meeting licensing criteria.
It looks like that is now the way of things and you can rest assured it is something Celtic would have been arguing for because it makes sense.
Ernie, ,class move bringing in big gordi, so what does 2tone heid Darling do not?:-)
Are you new or old labour?
HH
Auldheid, the Alloa chairmanmike milraney(sp) on shortbread on monday.sharpguy hh
Auldheid
I interpreted the changes as SFA conceding a little to maintain the status quo.
They still have the old guard in control and old attitudes still prevailing.
Where am I going wrong?
‘GG
00:55 on
23 April, 2014
Auldheid
I interpreted the changes as SFA conceding a little to maintain the status quo.
They still have the old guard in control and old attitudes still prevailing.
Where am I going wrong?
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Yep – but there is no other way of effecting change than infiltrating somehow. It wouldn’t be possible to set up a new SFA from scratch – EUFA would not recognise the new entity. The only way of cleansing the SFA is to get inside and start a process of change. Well, that’s how I see it anyway.
WG happy birthday auld yin.. bring back the saints day
natknow
Thanks for responding. It’s not often anyone responds to me, particularly as I live at home with 5 women. Thank God for the dog.
Unless the whole structure is torn down and rebuilt from scratch we will still have the vermin in the the walls. A facelift will only paper over the defects and still leave the fundamental problems, personnel like Sandy Bryson, in place.
I don’t see anything that will change the prevailing attitudes and inbred bigotry.
‘GG
01:14 on
23 April, 2014
natknow
Thanks for responding. It’s not often anyone responds to me, particularly as I live at home with 5 women. Thank God for the dog.
Unless the whole structure is torn down and rebuilt from scratch we will still have the vermin in the the walls. A facelift will only paper over the defects and still leave the fundamental problems, personnel like Sandy Bryson, in place.
I don’t see anything that will change the prevailing attitudes and inbred bigotry.
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Haha! If you have 5 women in the house then I’m surprised you even get to ask the question that gets ignored! :-)
Yes – it would be great if the whole thing could be torn down – but I can see no way that can happen. The turkey’s won’t vote for Christmas and anyone trying to set up a new SFA will be rebuffed by UEFA/FIFA etc. I think the only way anything can change is to get some good people on the inside and to introduce a more professional culture. At present it is run by hobbyists – or blazers.
Gg
The question is why did SFA make those concessions now?
The term “caught bang to rights” seems applicable.
Boa noite,
5mins played. Bolivar 0 Leon 1.
Some game (so far)
Natknow
You can take it to the bank that Celtic wanted a more professional governing body without bringing the house down.
Only in Scotland would that objective need to be worked towards under the radar.
Anywhere else and those advocating the case for change would not have been portrayed as obsessive Rangers haters.
An tearman
He was one of the guys who got the evidence that the LNS Commission had been misled.
Obviously the sought for changes would have already been in train but the revealed material would not have harmed the cause.
Auldheid
Unless there is an acknowledgement that the rules were ignored to benefit Rangers to facilitate their entry into the bottom tier and prior to that to gain a CL spot, then superficial changes will be meaningless.
They obfuscated on the going concern issue before and will do so again.
How do they view the current going concern issues from Sevco’s current accounts?
Bolivar square it. Good game this
Couldn’t care less about Man U or Moyes………the entire EPL is just a big franchise with no soul.
The Glazers took control of Man U using a technique not a million steps removed from what Craig Whyte did with the orcs and it was allowed i.e. borrowed money against future revenues (or am I wrong?)
They need return on investment (ROI) to keep their brand of hedge fund managers happy too.
The next manager in will get his ersse felt too IMO.
SKY keeps peddling the “EPL greatest league in the world” bullshit….out with the top four its an appalling spectacle really. Just lots of minimum wage trolls subscribing to pay over inflated salaries to average players.
So long as the trolls keep subscribing then we can expect more of the same…….
Red card (Rafa Marquez) for Leon. Bolivar goal chalked offside. Bolivar thru if it stays this way.
….. It’s all over the wee pan pipe playin, poncho wearing, oddly colored woollen tammied , llama molesting, thin air breathin, people are on the pitch.
Bolivar first team in the quarter finals. Who’d a thunk it!
Boa noite
Riskorrie
You killed me at llama molesting.
Rio 3.08
Googled Bolivar to see where they came from.
Peru,at a guess?
Came up with this.
Seems like we are “flating” against thunder.
Simone Bolivar
Freemasonry[edit]
Similarly to some others in the history of American Independence (George Washington, Benito Juárez, José de San Martín, Bernardo O’Higgins and Francisco Miranda), Simón Bolívar was a Freemason. He was initiated in 1803 in the Masonic Lodge Lautaro which operated in Cadiz, Spain.[36] It was in this lodge that he first met some of his revolutionary peers, such as José de San Martín. In May 1806 he was conferred the rank of Master Mason in the “Scottish Mother of St. Alexander of Scotland” in Paris. During his time in London, he frequented “The Great American Reunion” lodge in London, founded by Francisco de Miranda. In April 1824, Simón Bolívar was given the 33rd degree of Inspector General Honorary.
‘GG
00:41 on
23 April, 2014
You are going to pray for me because I think the current Celtic custodians are a bunch of self serving hypocrites. ok? Go ahead.
MARGARET McGILL
I’m quite happy to take any help I can get!
The dawn chorus may be a wonderful thing in nature but…
IT KEEPS WAKING ME UP….GRRRR!
jamesgang and derbyshirebhoy, so very sorry to hear your news and in no way am I being patronising, but where there’s life there’s hope, and where there’s hope there’s faith, god bless and keep the faith
Question
IF the vote for independence is YES……………What would happen to the SKY fitba deal.
Would the SFA / SNP be in a position to tell the SKY fella’s to renegotiate a new deal, whereas, with a minimum 10% of their subscibers, they would expect the new deal to be comensurate (sp) with geographic subsciptions…….
Paddy T
And it’s braw weather down here this morning.
Good morning friends from a damp underfoot but dry, calm and pretty bright looking East Kilbride. A bit of a quiet moonlighting shift there, less than a page. Not sure if that’s good news or bad ;-)
Morning folk’s,
Prayers to all needing them, and thoughts to their families. Was speaking to a fellow yesterday, known him for year’s, his 80 year old mother was knocked down and killed a few weeks ago.
Cherish the time we have good or bad.
Ayrshire is Green and White
‘GG at 01:34
I agree with your sentiments. If future governance of the game is ever to command respect and deserve supporters’ confidence it is absolutely essential for there to be total exposure, exhaustive examination and unequivocal condemnation of the extensive wrongdoing of the past. Nor should this stop short of criminal prosecutions if sufficient evidence emerges. Nothing should be swept under the carpet, not least because the media also need to be shamed and brought to book for their part in enabling this fraud to continue for so long.
Having said that, I wholeheartedly applaud Auldheid and many others whose sterling work continues to provide a basis for believing that there is hope for a way forward.
It’s vitally important to construct a viable, alternative framework that can be ready to adopt when the rotten, corrupt one is torn down.
These are two separate processes, each of which requires colossal amounts of relentless effort, and I’m full of admiration for those who have dedicated themselves to either task.
Morning all. Overcast down here. Mind you, we’ve had our fair share of lovely weather recently.
Big Johan will always be a hero to me. Hope he has success in the next phase of his career.
Good morning CQN from a foggy damp Fife
I see Mc Moist has put himself up for big Johan’s job
As he will always be second best to Lenny
Ha Ha
God bless wee Oscar and his family
Keep The Faith
Hail Hail
auldheid
00:28 on 23 April, 2014
BRTH 18.51
Yup. Game set and match to the SPFL and Celtic.
Do you think we helped?
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Do you think Res. 12 was used as some sort of leverage in negotiations?
If so is that mission accomplished, or can you see this going further?
Will it be made public by the SPFL or Celtic?
MorequestionsthananswersCSC
neil lennon should follow johan out the door , had his time good and bad, time to move ,and make stevie Clarke the next manager ,along with john Collins and john kennedy as his assistants,
Whither the cash strapped scrofulous hillbillies the day?
At glasgow airport.
eary wiggin on some posh business man becoming quite agitated and animated on a call.
i thought i heard him mention Charles green. So that caught my attention .
yip he said it again.
and the snippets i got.
only four months ago he got 178%.
cant be right as he gave an address for register and he doesn’t live there.
Charles green .
any columbos join the dots.
timbhoy2
John Collins play second fiddle, aye good luck with that!
‘ In April 1824, Simón Bolívar was given the 33rd degree of Inspector General Honorary’
– still not good enough to cut it as a linesman for the SFA.
timbhoy2………………Have you broke into the meds cabinet?
Lenny got us to the last 16, the spine of that team were sold for near £20 Million and not replaced with the same quality in time for this years attempt.
We are now (IMO) stronger in every department for this years CL.
Of the 3 replacements you mention, what level have they achieved?