The statement released by Duff and Phelps last night revealed the substance to the lobbying that had taken place since the original punishment handed out by the SFA judicial panel:
“The decision by the appellate tribunal to uphold the sanction, namely the suspension of registration of players for one year, is not competent in the view of the club and its legal advisers.
“Such a sanction was not available to the tribunal”.
The suspension of player registrations was not one of the suggested punishments on the menu for the judicial panel but the rules allowed them to vary from guidance and choose whatever punishment they believed appropriate.
The appeal correctly found that the judicial panel were not were not subject to an exhaustive list of possible punishments. Duff and Phelps main hope was that the SFA rules were unclear and poorly constructed, as they were before an overhaul last year.
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Sweating like a Hun reading the result of the FTT.
hen1rik on 18 May, 2012 at 08:44 said:
Take the chill pill Mate, the huns are being investigated by everyone and their granny and if there is a criminal case to answer no detective or copper or taxman is going to rush into a decision where they might get off.
The hole is deep and dark wherein the huns are desperately trying to shovel their way out.
More to come from Mark Daly soon..
KTF
Sweatin’ like ole Chick Young tryin’ to complete a sentence.
He handles the English language like a man trying to push a large squid into a small suitcase.
SIXTEEN ROADS TO GOLGOTHA 0845
Apparently,Persil will do the trick….
Sweatin’ like a 22 stone hun in the Benidorm sun.
Sweatin’ like ole Mark Dingwallie when he realises he’s got 1871 yards left to walk.
BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on 18 May, 2012 at 08:56 said:
Lol very good Bobby! :)
maccargo on 18 May, 2012 at 07:53 said
“There are two ways out of that — one is a newco, one is a CVA.
“Of the six administrations which have happened down south in recent years two went with a CVA and a newco — Crystal Palace and Plymouth — and there were four where there was no CVA and a newco.
“But the distinction between the two is relatively fine. I am baffled as to why such a distinction is drawn.
“When Livingston were relegated to Division Three did they cease to exist and start again? Of course they didn’t.
“It’s not OK to waive £90million of debt, of course it’s not. But it happens. In football as in business.”
Sounds like a man still trying to muddy the waters, to allow a newclub in.
hen1rik at 08:34:
Does anyone else think HMRC are doing dodgy deals behind closed doors it would explain why they are so quiet.
HMRC never comment on live cases. In any case, they have no more info on the first tier tribunal than anyone else.
HMRC issued a bill to Rangers re EBTs.
Rangers appealed the bill
Case heard in private at the First Tier Tribunal
Chairperson and panel of tribunal are in process of writing up findings.
The more complex a case is, the longer it takes for the findings to be released. The chairperson and panel members will have heard the evidence from both sides and will have had to consider what the law says and any case law relevant to the case before making its judgment.
re Not payment of VAT/PAYE/NI contributions etc. Administration protects the company from creditors and so HMRC will have to wait until a CVA is proposed and presented to creditors before being in a position to comment.
Just because HMRC are quiet, doesn’t mean a deal is being done in secret.
Mort
A wee word for any of THEM who reads this and is contemplating a protest at tomorrow’s Cup Final.
Any such action, especially if it turns violent, will be the worst PR exercise in your club’s history.
A wee word for any of THEM who reads this and is contemplating a protest at tomorrow’s Cup Final.
Don’t listen to quonno. A protest will do wonders and will show the SFA what you are all about and they will rescind all punishments and let you start off with a clean slate.
:-)
Mort
Serial lurker and occasional poster here with an occasional post.Thanks Jobo for the birthday wishes and enjoy ur afternoon out. Don’t do anything etc etc ………
EDASD
Do you really think the orcs will turn up at the cup final at Hampden tomorrow ? they can hardly muster a large number of fans for there protests so why would this one be different? I think any triuble from the orcs will be by individual nutters or very small groups and will be alchol driven so imo there possible violence is more likely to be in pubs and clubs. H.H.
Grand Spring Morning here in The Chilterns,
Who will Smite the Defiant Delinquents?
Not Mr Doncaster – Quelle Soopreeese!
Hail! Hail! To The Champions.
quonno on 18 May, 2012 at 09:03:
“A wee word for any of THEM who reads this and is contemplating a protest at tomorrow’s Cup Final.”
They will be nowhere near Hampden. They are all talk. A bunch of mummies boys giving it the big one.
Enough is Enough 11 – the sequel
This time we’re, erm … really, really, really angry.
There’s no way Thems will march on Hampden tomorrow. Hampden will be busy tomorrow and Thems only march to shout at empty buildings.
The Planner on 18 May, 2012 at 09:14:
“There’s no way Thems will march on Hampden tomorrow. Hampden will be busy tomorrow and Thems only march to shout at empty buildings.”
Which is pretty fitting as they could start an argument in an empty room.
maccargo on 18 May, 2012 at 07:53 said
“We are happy everyone is positive in looking for the best for Rangers and the SPL.”
I think I see Doncaster’s angle of approach here. Luckily he’s out of his depth and thick.
Sweating like Sick young sitting on Fat Traynors knee talking about things that pop up
Hail Hail
Aw hen1rik!
stop trying to spreading gloom and sowing seeds of doubt and uncertainty!
You can do better than that!
Celebrate all the titles coming our way!
One thing that I cant follow in the Rangers continueing saga there must be somone who is responsible for paying salaries and dealing with the Inland revenue at Ibrokes.Now shortly after Craig Whyte took over they stopped paying tax and national insurance now the person or persons who deal with salaries must have realised they were not paying the tax and yet this went on for months and he/she did not raise the alarm or go public with the information and then they say we werent complicit we just didnae know.H.H.
Mort on 18 May, 2012 at 09:05 said:
A wee word for any of THEM who reads this and is contemplating a protest at tomorrow’s Cup Final.
Don’t listen to quonno. A protest will do wonders and will show the SFA what you are all about and they will rescind all punishments and let you start off with a clean slate.
:-)
Mort
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I concur old chap (thumbs vertical)
V
Sweatin like a laptop loyal waiting on Alex T’s next blog.
Sweating like MacGregor on a night oot with his bird.
Sweating like Sebo’s ball boy.
Joe Filippis Haircut on 18 May, 2012 at 09:22 said:
One thing that I cant follow in the Rangers continueing saga there must be somone who is responsible for paying salaries and dealing with the Inland revenue at Ibrokes.Now shortly after Craig Whyte took over they stopped paying tax and national insurance now the person or persons who deal with salaries must have realised they were not paying the tax and yet this went on for months and he/she did not raise the alarm or go public with the information and then they say we werent complicit we just didnae know.H.H.
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Financial controller was Ken Olverman whose deeds are clearly attributable to the club, viz:
“Generally speaking, as a matter of law, actions of a single individual can be attributed to the company as a whole. This was a matter considered in the case of McNicholas Construction Co Ltd v C&E Commissioners (2000) STC 553:
This case is authority for the proposition that the acts and knowledge of all employees who have a part to play in the making and receiving of supplies may be attributed to the employer company for the purpose of a penalty for dishonest evasion; and that the purpose of the legislation would be seriously undermined if the only persons whose acts and knowledge might be attributable to a company were those responsible for running its affairs and those involved in its VAT affairs.”
HH
Monaghan
in CL, it would be terrific to see Aiden help tear Motherwell to shreds
i see they enter the comp at the same stage as us (3rd qual)
question…
of teams in 3rd qual round, can we be drawn (20th July) against those who are NON-champions ? e.g spartak, fenerbahce etc
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012%E2%80%9313_UEFA_Champions_League
Sweating like Craig Whyte on This is your life.
hen1rik on 18 May, 2012 at 08:44 said:
HMRC were quick enough to get their cash off Hearts but not the Huns.
Something stinks and i wouldn’t depend on HMRC putting their light out.
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HMRC cannot do anything about RFCIA as they are in administration at the moment. Cast your mind back to 13th Feb, where HMRC had actually had enough and were indeed about to pull the plug, or at least put der orkenkind into administration.
There were a number of subtle, but very telling, differences between Hearts situation and that at Rangers:
Hearts are quite openly insolvent. And indeed are insolvent by such a margin that should their debt underwriters pull the plug, they’d immediately be liquidated. Immediately. As such, HMRC had to apply for winding up orders each time they went after payment.
Rangers were different, in that their ‘booked’ assets more than covered their levels of debt ergo they were not openly insolvent. As such HMRC could only apply for administration for recovery of debts in the face of continuous non-payment. HMRC would have had no way of knowing the full level of debt and even though the BTC is still a debt (the penalties, as yet, are not), the debts of the club were still covered by assets. It would not have been in HMRC’s best interests, under the perceived knowledge at the time, to do a winding up order on them.
As stated, now that the orcs are in admin, there’s very little HMRC can do but wait it out and pounce on any proposed CVA, rending it sheet from sheet. At that point, the administrators, in lieu of a CVA will do the winding up order in place of Hector and Co.
To paraphrase TET: Nodealshere
Hen1rik,
If it makes you feel any better, If the first tier tribunal had found in favour of the huns we would most likely have heard by now.
The longer it takes them to report suggests more doo-doo for the taxdodgers.
Sweating like Campbell Ogilvie.
“There are two ways out of that — one is a newco, one is a CVA.”
Wrong Neil. There are two ways out – one is liquidation, one is a CVA.
Sweating like Mark hately trying to form a sentence in that not unsubstantial
cranium.
TopCorner,
In short – no. There is a Champions route and a Non Champions route into the Group stages – and the two are totally seperate.
TopCorner on 18 May, 2012 at 09:30 said:
TC someone posted a great link the other day about the qualification process from our old mate Bert Kassies, all being well and we win our two games we will be in pot four if I remember correctly.
His website is http://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert/uefa/
Starry
Sweatin’ like the sect114 diehards when wee Christina does the ole Paradise Windfall.
Huns marching to Hampden tomorrow?
I very much doubt it, bearing in mind the very large group of the ol’ CCS that are heading to Glasgow tomorrow
Aan Yung Suu Kyi and Nelson Mandela are lobbying vigorously for Sandy Jardine to be awarded the Nobel Peace Prize.
Warning, rant.
This morning’s news the taxpayer is £2b worse off after propping up capitalism is really teeing me off. How the f— does this capitalism work?
I’m sick and tired of getting gubbed by grubby little entrepreneurs raising their prices to make up for the loss of business during the recession – I was led to believe market forces would determine prices. My arse……..
Rant over, I thank you.