Karagandy manager on Celtic and his own players

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Shakhtar Karagandy Russian manager, Viktor Kumykov, gave an interview after their elimination of the Albanian champions in the last Champions League qualifier.  He talked about his team, which, unlike some in former Soviet countries, does not have an oligarch benefactor or rich sponsor.

Kumykov thought four of his potential opponents were of equal standing, although he clearly respects Celtic’s recent achievements in the Champions League.

He said, “Getting through to the play offs round is historical achievement for the club and for Kazakh football. We hope this is for the start and we would play in Europe regularly. Even if we don’t go to the Champions League, we will play in UEFA Europa League, which means we will be in the elite of the European football.

“We have made it to the group stage of one of the European competitions, which was our main target. It does not mean we can rest now and say we will not fight for more, but our main target is Cup of Kazakhstan. We have never won it before.

“From a football perspective, I think it might be better for us to be in the Europa League than the Champions League. If we go through to the Champions League we will play against much better teams, where we can meet giant clubs. For this we would need to buy few players to strengthen the team. We short of depth and players I have at the moment would not cope with big competitions. I have no experienced players.

“It’s difficult to say who against I want to play. All five teams are better than us. Celtic is different story, they are apart from the others. That team played in the Champions League last season and got through to the knock out round. They beat Barcelona. They beat Spartak Moscow away and at home.

“The Other four are all similar class one to each other but they are all stronger than us. Each of them play at a higher level. The team God gives us will be the team we will play against. It makes no sense to say who we want.”
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  1. Le Kazakh

     

     

    You may have been to, and enjoyed, Glasgow.

     

     

    But have you ever been to Kilwinning, Greenock and Port Glasgow?!

     

     

    HH!!

  2. If anyone would like to write for the new issue of CQN Magazine please get in touch. In particular I wanted to mention the issues re the closure of Section 111 – we have received a few features on this topic and it is such a controversial subject that we really want to ensure that all the various positions on this are covered. Maybe we could get a number of CQNers to state their position on this in 500 words? We can add them all together into a feature covering the range of supporters’ opinions. Email to celticquicknews@gmail.com

  3. “No wonder we can afford to ‘smash’ the irksome GB”

     

     

    A Celtic supporter wrote that!!!!!!

  4. I'm Neil Lennon (tamrabam) on

    67 of course its all part of the basket

     

     

    but I perhaps mistakenly though you had applauded jedi at (17.33) who did suggest that we pay 50k per week for 5 seasons and pay it now out of the 30 million

     

     

    which of course, we ALL know is not the case

  5. DUSHANBE BHILLY BHOY on

    desertbhoy….you didnae get the joke….

     

     

    “PaL” is dog food.

     

     

    now do you geddit?

     

     

    yes, Dushanbe is a fine city, but not as developed as Astana.

  6. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    BMCUWP

     

     

    Personally I am not negative at all. Enjoy watching Lenny going about his work. I just wish he could do it unfettered. Same for us watching the product.

     

     

    HH

  7. Dushanbe .. Didn’t , but not sure I want to prolong active life.. Getting a bit too old in the tooth for all the candy here.

  8. I’m Neil Lennon

     

     

    ‘Smash’ was a tad cliched.

     

     

    But it would be downright silly to say we’re moving the GB to another section, for health and safety reasons, then they would all be together again in another section doing daft lateral movement.

     

     

    Yes, smashed, dispersed, refunded and those that renew randomly placed in every other section of the ground (there’s plenty) available.

     

     

    The ‘smashing’ includes all of 111 non lateral movers, and lifelong Celtic supporters in the Grey Brigade.

     

     

    A massive damaging long term blunder with serious misunderstanding and mistakes, in negotiations whether your in the Celtic board, or in the health and safety breachers.

     

     

    JustMyOpinion CSC

  9. Tallybhoy

     

     

    Undortumatelly not, as I have a limited time. I visited Glasgow, Edinburgh and Aberdeen though. I also visited Dunnottar Castle in Stonehaven.

     

     

    I enjoyed a live band playing in Glasgow. BTW, maybe you know the name of the band. There are two guys, one playing guitar and another one – drums. T.G.F. in Glasgow is my favorite so far)

  10. TallyBhoy

     

     

    How aboot.. callin you,pal..

     

     

     

    Goombah?

     

     

    That’s whit Ma fair Gabriella Calls Me… Sometimes!

     

     

    That is when she is No Calln Me..

     

     

    Ah.. Pasquale!

     

     

    Kojo

     

     

    Still, still Laughin’

  11. Clashcitybhoy on

    Dushanbe ,

     

    We all crashing at yours?

     

    If if was a bit more accessible I would be up for it.

     

    A previous employer, had big interests in Kazkstahn,and all my colleagues who visited spoke very highly of the country and people vs other parts of former Soviet bloc

  12. I'm Neil Lennon (tamrabam) on

    Sorry bourne

     

    I think I misinterpreted you,and I agree that its a blunder by the club

     

     

    just like failing to speak on the hun/sevco issues is turning out to be

     

     

    if some folks think that makes me a board basher then fair enough, but personally I don’t think my view is unreasonable

  13. 67Heaven ... I am Neil Lennon..!!.. Ibrox belongs to the creditors on

    i’m neil lennon (tamrabam)

     

     

    18:06 on 9 August, 2013

     

     

    Patience …… We’re getting there…… Hopefully with the GB ever-present…. Get it sorted out GB / Celtic Board…..

  14. 67Heaven

     

     

    We shall see, we got lucky with CL qualification so far IMHO we’ve a long way to go, for a serious attempt at a repeat of last year’s efforts which was helped by being in the same ‘one horse race SPL’.

  15. theBHOYfromU.N.C.L.E on

    Hen1rik

     

     

    Never believed the reports of over 100 seats broken in the past few months…………..if it were true photo evidence would have been published to substantiate their claims.

     

     

    Indeed the GB have repeatedly questioned the figures quoted.

     

     

    Keep at it my friend

     

     

    UTLR

  16. Debt fear

     

     

    Signing anyone is a gamble

     

     

    Players don’t want to come to the SPL

     

     

    We must guard against insolvency …look at oldco

     

     

    Four legs good two legs bad !!!!

  17. I’m Neil

     

     

    I’ve on the fence, with a good balance.

     

     

    Yes, it’s a blunder not to be able to control wee bhoys other than by closing an entire section.

     

     

    There are better Bloggers than me that critique the Sevco silence better than me, and doesn’t mean I disagree.

     

     

    HH

  18. kojo

     

     

    Been called worse than that.

     

     

    What about ‘guinea’?

     

     

    …or ‘dago’?

     

     

    …or ‘wop’?

     

     

    A primary school teacher – many moons ago – asked me my name.

     

     

    I was about 8 or 9 at the time.

     

     

    I told her – being a polite child, even ‘tho we had not long moved from Greenock.

     

     

    It’s an Eyetalian name.

     

     

    To which she replied – “That’s a funny name!”

     

     

    Went home and told my mammy.

     

     

    She was NOT pleased.

     

     

    A wummin not to be trifled with.

     

     

    She was round there first thing the following morning.

     

     

    Refused to leave until she had had a wee word with the teacher.

     

     

    My mammy was an ex-teacher herself.

     

     

    Take care Pasquale.

     

     

    HH!!

  19. 67Heaven ... I am Neil Lennon..!!.. Ibrox belongs to the creditors on

    bournesouprecipe

     

     

    18:20 on 9 August, 2013

     

     

    It was never going to be easy for us to qualify for the CL……but, each year, it will get easier if we are as careful / professional as we have been under (the blessed) Neil …… onwards and upwards…!!!!

  20. 67Heaven ... I am Neil Lennon..!!.. Ibrox belongs to the creditors on

    ….pfayr

     

     

    18:24 on 9 August, 2013

     

     

    It’s a dog’s life…!!

  21. 67Heaven ... I am Neil Lennon..!!.. Ibrox belongs to the creditors on

    the exiled tim

     

     

    18:27 on 9 August, 2013

     

     

    It has indeed…..CL Football…(hopefully every season)

  22. Another statement from

     

    the Green Brigade

     

    released on

     

    @huddleboard – On

     

    Monday we announced

     

    that the Green Brigade

     

    block within 111 was

     

    due to close at the

     

    behest of Celtic Football

     

    Club. Apparently under

     

    advice from the Safety

     

    Advisory Group of

     

    Glasgow City Council the

     

    Club arrived at the

     

    abrupt decision that

     

    they could no longer

     

    facilitate our section in

     

    the corner of Celtic Park.

     

    After only one home

     

    game into the new

     

    season (v Cliftonville)

     

    the Green Brigade and

     

    those within our section

     

    were issued with an

     

    impromptu warning over

     

    our behaviour and

     

    threatened with bans.

     

    Given that there was

     

    little misconduct at this

     

    fixture the direct,

     

    confrontational

     

    approach from the Club

     

    took us by surprise. In

     

    the wake of this match

     

    an amicable meeting

     

    was held between Green

     

    Brigade and Club

     

    representatives, with

     

    dialogue being

     

    maintained almost daily

     

    since. Health and Safety

     

    concerns were and

     

    remain the source of

     

    dispute with the

     

    following issues being

     

    key:

     

    – Overcrowding

     

    While we accept that

     

    this is an issue needing

     

    addressed it is not the

     

    responsibility of the

     

    Green Brigade to enforce

     

    ticket checks and ensure

     

    fans are in the correct

     

    seat or area. This is the

     

    responsibility of the

     

    match-day stewards

     

    and ultimately the Club.

     

    While we will accept no

     

    blame in this regard we

     

    have, from the outset,

     

    done our utmost to help

     

    the situation. We have

     

    done so by discouraging

     

    the migration to our

     

    section both on our

     

    website, other websites

     

    and in person; while

     

    also co-operating with

     

    stewards on match-

     

    days with their ticket

     

    check routines.

     

    – Moshing (mock

     

    fighting/jostling causing

     

    crowd disruption)

     

    Despite the fact we

     

    regard this as a

     

    relatively harmless

     

    action and one which

     

    those participating in

     

    seemed to particularly

     

    enjoy, we did concede

     

    that it was unnecessary

     

    and causing unneeded

     

    and avoidable issues –

     

    particularly damage to

     

    seats. As such we

     

    agreed to refrain from

     

    doing this going forward

     

    and the Club were made

     

    aware of this intention.

     

    – Body Surfing

     

    Similarly to the above

     

    we felt that the safety

     

    concerns attached were

     

    being exaggerated.

     

    However, again we felt it

     

    necessary to drop this

     

    action given some of the

     

    risks attached and more

     

    importantly as a sign

     

    that we would not be

     

    stubborn and are open

     

    to co-operation and

     

    compromise. Once

     

    more, the Club were

     

    aware of our intention to

     

    stop this action.

     

    – Broken Seating

     

    The damage to seats

     

    within our section is one

     

    we cannot shy from nor

     

    deny. However we will

     

    not accept the Club lying

     

    or, at best, being

     

    disingenuous with the

     

    truth over their reporting

     

    of this issue. Given the

     

    energetic and boisterous

     

    style of support

     

    emanating from the

     

    section it is regrettable

     

    that there would be

     

    accidental, collateral

     

    damage to seats which

     

    aren’t used and can get

     

    in the way. The

     

    insinuation from the

     

    Club though is that

     

    seats are damaged

     

    intentionally – not only

     

    is this not true but it is

     

    something which we

     

    would not tolerate.

     

    Additionally, we believe

     

    that the figures of

     

    broken seats spoken of

     

    have been deliberately

     

    manipulated in order to

     

    smear those in the

     

    section. The original

     

    numbers used seemed

     

    extremely exaggerated

     

    and we are confident

     

    that the claim of 35

     

    seats being broken at

     

    the last game – when

     

    the one action which

     

    affected the seats most

     

    was dropped – is a

     

    complete fabrication. We

     

    have the following post-

     

    match footage which

     

    shows no clear sign of

     

    damage: http://

     

    http://www.youtube.com/

     

    watch?

     

    v=hBpBv…A2tOKswod6PrUQ

     

    – Bangers

     

    The use of ‘bangers’ at

     

    the Cliftonville match

     

    was regrettable and

     

    unwelcome. While our

     

    Group wasn’t

     

    responsible for these

     

    being used we cannot

     

    shed the responsibility

     

    for them being used

     

    within our section.

     

    Despite accepting some

     

    responsibility we would

     

    like to state that since

     

    the formation of the

     

    section the Green

     

    Brigade have controlled

     

    ticketing therefore would

     

    be responsible for each

     

    individuals presence

     

    (unless migrated). This

     

    privilege was removed

     

    this season however

     

    which obviously dilutes

     

    our Groups

     

    accountability for those

     

    occupying the area. It

     

    could be said that this

     

    has also effected

     

    overcrowding. We have

     

    dealt with the matter of

     

    ‘bangers’ to ensure that

     

    there is no repeat by

     

    warning the offenders

     

    and others from a repeat

     

    and the Club are aware

     

    of this.

     

    – Lateral Movement

     

    On the face of things,

     

    this rather trivial and

     

    harmless action appears

     

    to be the one sticking

     

    point which we find

     

    utterly ridiculous and

     

    difficult to comprehend.

     

    It is an action which

     

    occurs for no more than

     

    2 minutes out of the 90

     

    and one which we have

     

    yet to witness cause any

     

    injury or risk. Indeed, we

     

    have asked time and

     

    time again for the Club

     

    to provide us with an

     

    Accident report to prove

     

    us wrong in this regard

     

    yet none has been

     

    forthcoming.

     

    If the concern here is

     

    the blocking of

     

    stairwells then we would

     

    like to make it clear that,

     

    in actual fact, the

     

    stairwells are not

     

    blocked in the manner

     

    that is being portrayed.

     

    As you can tell from the

     

    following video from the

     

    Ross County match (

     

    http://

     

    http://www.youtube.com/

     

    watch?

     

    v=k90i2…A2tOKswod6PrUQ )

     

    for the most part most

     

    of the stairwell isn’t

     

    actually blocked. Where

     

    it can become blocked is

     

    further back into the

     

    section where the issue

     

    of overcrowding is

     

    prevalent, therefore

     

    surely a product of the

     

    stewards/Clubs failings.

     

    Regardless, we question

     

    why straying onto a

     

    stairwell for seconds is

     

    deemed drastically

     

    unsafe while a

     

    congested staircase pre,

     

    during or post-match is

     

    not. We’d also like to

     

    point out that 8

     

    stewards stand in a

     

    fixed position on the

     

    stairwells either side of

     

    our section – 4 on each

     

    side – for the duration of

     

    the match thus causing

     

    a permanent blockage.

     

    The claim that this

     

    movement leads to an

     

    increased risk of falling

     

    and injury is ambiguous:

     

    so does an enthusiastic

     

    goal celebration and

     

    even the ever popular

     

    ‘Huddle’ in the stands.

     

    We believe that it is

     

    clear that there are

     

    efforts to not only

     

    sanitise our Group but

     

    supporters in general

     

    and we believe that this

     

    sanitisation will not stop

     

    with lateral movement.

     

    Accusations of

     

    sanitisation are fairly

     

    tame and not misplaced

     

    when you consider it

     

    wasn’t so long ago that

     

    the Club were holding

     

    private meetings with

     

    other fan bodies where

     

    they smeared our group

     

    and section in a pathetic

     

    attempt of divide and

     

    conquer – events which

     

    were well documented at

     

    the time ( http://

     

    http://www.youtube.com/

     

    watch?

     

    v=Z7yKQZaeSew ).

     

    In summation it is clear

     

    that we have been fully

     

    co-operative with the

     

    Club. Since the

     

    Cliftonville match we

     

    have addressed the

     

    majority of the safety

     

    concerns outlined and

     

    eradicated three

     

    completely. One other is

     

    not our responsibility

     

    and the major issue of

     

    ‘lateral movement’ we

     

    believe can be

     

    challenged in a

     

    constructive and

     

    sensible manner. When

     

    we last met with the

     

    Club (after the

     

    Cliftonville match) our

     

    thoughts on all issues

     

    were made clear and our

     

    position has not

     

    deviated since. As

     

    previously touched

     

    upon, the meeting was

     

    amicable and the Club in

     

    particular stated their

     

    satisfaction with the

     

    progression being made

     

    both in terms of

     

    dialogue re-commencing

     

    and with our efforts to

     

    address the

     

    aforementioned safety

     

    concerns. We therefore

     

    find it frustrating and

     

    disappointing that their

     

    attitude appears altered

     

    for an open forum.

     

    The Green Brigade

     

    intends and hopes to be

     

    able to reach a positive

     

    outcome through

     

    dialogue with the Club

     

    and other necessary

     

    bodies. However, this

     

    will only be possible

     

    should the relevant

     

    parties believe that each

     

    other are being honest

     

    and forthright regarding

     

    the full circumstance

     

    and unfortunately

     

    doubts do remain. We

     

    were offered a copy of

     

    the dialogue between

     

    Celtic FC and the SAG

     

    however nothing has

     

    been provided yet. We

     

    hope that these

     

    documents, as well as

     

    submitted FOI requests,

     

    can provide all with a

     

    better understanding of

     

    the situation. We have

     

    already had informal

     

    correspondence with

     

    members of Glasgow

     

    City Council regarding

     

    this predicament and

     

    their well placed

     

    thoughts do not quite

     

    add up with Celtic FC’s

     

    extraordinary decision

     

    and action.

     

    We find it hard to believe

     

    that an institution as

     

    powerful and influential

     

    as Celtic FC finds itself

     

    backed into a corner

     

    over such a trivial issue

     

    with little scope for

     

    challenge. Should the

     

    Club believe that their

     

    hands are tied then we

     

    ask them to engage with

     

    their fan bodies in a bid

     

    to explore possible

     

    solutions as opposed to

     

    carelessly landing at

     

    unnecessary and

     

    provocative ultimatums.

     

    Considering the Club

     

    advised that they are

     

    still open to dialogue in

     

    hope of resolving the

     

    issue, we were surprised

     

    to learn that all season

     

    ticket holders have

     

    already been relocated

     

    and assigned alternative

     

    seats without warning

     

    nor consultation. The

     

    absurdity of this full

     

    episode is exemplified

     

    with one member being

     

    relocated to a different

     

    stand from his 4 year

     

    old son. The current

     

    Celtic hierarchy have an

     

    embarrassing track

     

    record when it comes to

     

    defending our Club and

     

    especially its fans. We

     

    stress to them that this

     

    does not need to be

     

    another example for the

     

    list and suggest that

     

    they re-assess the full

     

    situation whilst

     

    consulting the relevant

     

    parties.

     

    Finally we’d like to

     

    thank, as always, the

     

    Celtic support who have

     

    flooded us with positive

     

    sentiment and support.

     

    Once again we’d like to

     

    stress to those within

     

    our section to refrain

     

    from any action until we

     

    have had the

     

    opportunity to discuss

     

    the situation fully and

     

    explore all possible

     

    options for moving

     

    forward.

     

    Until the last rebel

  23. DUSHANBE BHILLY BHOY on

    Tallybhoy….only one “h” in “Kazakhstan” or indeed “Kazakh”.

     

     

    Granted, there are 2 “Ks” in both.

     

     

    But a Kay isnae a Haitch/Aitch, irrespective of whether there are 2 of them

     

     

    So there.

     

     

    Bit like Kojo/Singing Dick.

     

     

    I’m off “outwith”

  24. googybhoy ♥ Celtic

     

     

     

    17:27 on 9 August, 2013

     

     

     

    Was the ASA decision today about the complaint they were deid or another one. People on FB say it is another case.

     

    ————————

     

    The original decision based on hun friendly advice was withdrawn after it was challenged (by better letters and continued emailsthan i can muster)on the grounds that it was based on hun friendly adice :)))) e.g SFA & ECA, and a review of the true fact were to be sought by ASA.

     

     

     

    sevco or whatever they are called today panicked and withdrew the claim before it was looked at how a one year old club could make such deluded claim.

     

     

    Every time they are challenged their claims turn to dust I just wish someone with clout in Scottish football would say enough is enough of this charade lets get down to fact, unfortuneatly it does not look like our own board are prepared to do it (IMHO) and Ogilvie and his cohorts will continue to bend and break any rule that helps hunlands newest club,

     

    So it is left to internet bampots to keep up the fight, an email or a petition signed may not seem like much but it is all i have so I will keep asking and challenging when they make deluded ,ludicrous lying statements.

     

     

    So Hail Hail to the Two people whose persistence paid off and that mob scurried back under their stone before they were found out again.

  25. Just back from a meeting where we found out the food processing factory next door to us is submitting a planning application to build a refrigeration unit with a 16 metre high and 20 metre wide end about 3 metres away from our little bungalow.

     

     

    Our home is the most affected and the company have space in their ground to build this massive shed away from any residential units.

     

     

    Any advice on how to proceed to object would be most welcome as I am sure our wonderful D&G Council will give them permission to go ahead.

  26. 67 heaven

     

     

     

    Please explain why CL qualification will get easier year on year

     

     

    This year we have sold our best payers and not replaced them ….how on earth can that be construed as making qualification easier

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