I’ve heard some utter tosh from politicians over the years but never anything so blatantly untrue as the comments from our First Minister, Alex Salmond, reported today. This clown is telling people Rangers need to be saved for the sake of Celtic. He said:
“The most diehard Celtic supporter understands that Celtic can’t prosper unless Rangers are there. The rest of the clubs understand that as well. Therefore you have to have cognisance of these things when you’re pursuing public policy.
Keep our name out of it you incoherent fool.
If our prosperity depends on the survival of Rangers it’s time our values and priorities changed. You of all people should know this after your lecturing last year. Celtic have not been well served by their association with Rangers, nor vice versa. As a combined entity, the ‘Old Firm’ have not been good for Scotland.
I’m keen to hear what his “public policy” on the matter is. Salmond goes on to say:
“We’ve certainly been arguing to HMRC on one hand, and indeed to Rangers, to for goodness sake get a settlement, get a settlement and a structure over time whereby Rangers can continue because Rangers must continue for the future of Scottish football and for the fabric of the country.”
How dare you argue with HMRC? Even Rangers admit the potential underpayment could be £75m. How many nurses, teachers and policemen would that employ, Mr Salmond? This is the true cost of his position.
This sorry business has nothing to do with Celtic, I hope our club make this clear to provocative politicians. All you die-hard Celtic supporters out there better let this man know he has no right to speak for you.
“Fabric of the country”. He got that bit right, alas.
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Lawdy, I wish that I were able to spill regarding Soapy, but it is toxic.
hen1rik says:
16 February, 2012 at 17:08
Hope it’s pure nuclear.
That guy is only interested in feathering his own nest. End of.
Why the hell did Neil Lennon have to enter the fray with his Twitter comments. I love Neil to pieces but will he ever learn? There are millions of Tims making all the necessary comments on his behalf. He needs to keep his comments to himself as far as the rabid mob are concerned.
Re Ticketus and the Rangers group.
Did Ticketus money go to Rangers plc or did it go to the investment group? Are these two treated as separate entities under the law?
Surely if it went to the group, then even if Rangers FC goes into liquidation (or agrees a CVA) then the money is still owed to Ticketus by the group?
This, from an ESPN link
“Whyte said the deal, which built on an existing relationship between the club and Ticketus, was fully underwritten by one of his companies.” http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/1016652/craig-whyte-says-ticket-deal-is-no-risk-to-rangers-fans?cc=5739
So which ever of his companies that is is liable for the 24m regardless of what happens to the football club?
Or does putting the money into the group rather than the club allow him to waltz away with it while the club goes under?
I am very confused by all of this.
I just cant see Whyte ringing ticketus saying guys I need a loan of 24 Million and the only security I can offer is the next 4 years season ticket monies and ticketus saying no problem Craig gives us your bank acc details and we will deposit the money before the close of business. Ticketus to have 24 million to loan out in the first place must be a fairly sizeable company run by you would think proffesionals now what we are being told about the 24 million is far from proffesional no company can afford to gamble 24 Million.Something here stinks and its just not rotten salmond.H.H.
hen1rik says:
16 February, 2012 at 17:11
Bhoys I think we should all write a letter to Celtic advising if Huns lose the taxcase then the trophys gained by cheating must be wiped from their records.
Think of the embarrassment this will cause them, shows to the world they are cheats.
If the MBB hasn’t been paying tax since he took over.
At what point last season did he take over at the huns.
Had the mib already won them the league before the tax evasion started.
Headtheball says:
16 February, 2012 at 17:07
‘That press conf was well dodgy.’
My impression is that Buster Merryfield was sitting in a Robin Reliant outside waiting for a quick getaway.
Final episode of Hustle on BBC1 @ 9 tomorrow night. Anyone think wee whytey will be making a guest appearance?
Alex Salmond
A fish out of water
Out of his depth
A bottom feeder
Between the Devil and the deep blue sea
Needs to be reeled in
A red Herring (or maybe blue)
any other fishy references?
gsu
The memory of a goldfish
Doing himself up like a kipper
——————————————–
i’ll plump for the simple, but effective…
R’ SOLE
Naismith on a sicknote getting paid £26K a week First to go (or should be)
Oglach
“Will any Celtic supporter even consider voting for the SNP now”
Not in a million years. The little Runt (sorry about the spelling mistake) is using this opportunity to grab votes. Shameful and says more about the real character within than any party political broadcast he ever makes in the future will. Sees an opportunity to sieze the hun vote. and is in like Flynn.
Celtic fc should respond.
Fat Sally on SSN shortly.Says he absolutely trusts Whytey.We bet you do,Sally.
Does this all mean that any old con-man can come to Scotland,do what they please & expect to get away with it? Coz that’s what this is looking like,for now.
amadeus says:
16 February, 2012 at 16:52
“I wouldn’t worry about Soapy Salmond, certain papers are sitting on a story that will blow him away. He knows it too.”
Pray tell? We could all have it out there in seconds and finish his day off perfectly!
Paul what i was trying to say was , i feel we the celtic support should, if we can by twitter, facebook .txt or whatever other method
get the message conveyed out there to the wider public in the uk , what is happening up here . government ministers backing tax evaders . MY god we didnt expect any fair play from the laptop loyal or scottish football HQ , but how many of us expected government minister siding with tax evaders . If enough of us contact the media down south ,then there is a chance this will be acted upon by the big boys down there , because we sure as hell wont get fair play up here .
hail hail
jimtim
Smoked Salmond.
Whyte Fish.
Hun-gry.
sixtaeseven. Yes its a home game but the ground holds 50,000 and they dont have that number of season ticket holders so there will be pay at the gate also Kilmarnock supporters will have to pay.They will generate some income.H.H.
A very astute post from the Huns Media site
‘The mhanks from tlb and liewell down are absolutely ragin as the Establishment gets behind us, if the taigs didn’t know they are second class they do now.’
Amadeus?….do tell.
Just been thinking about the issue underlying one of Paul’s pieces earlier in the week.
Strathclyde Police were Rangers first creditor to ask for a payment guarantee from Rangers’ newly appointed administrator, saying, “Strathclyde Police is a public body and has a duty to make sure public resources are used appropriately. We are seeking an urgent meeting with the administrators to ensure that any payment for policing costs at future Rangers games is guaranteed.
“Until we have such a guarantee we would not be in a position to commit public resources to policing an event unless we had a reassurance that our costs would be met.”
There were of course subsequent assurances given and as we know the game is supposed to go ahead.
However given Whyte’s cavalier attitude to bill payment generally and public service bill payment in particular I started to think it’s unlikely the the police force bills are payed up to date when so many others are not.
That made me look at the words again and sure enough they only talk about costs for “FUTURE rangers games”.
So any money on a scenario that there are outstanding Police bills unpaid….. no guarantee……probable x% in the pound, but new bills which will be paid or at least are so promised. Who knows.
If the police was a commercial organisation (and not establishment focused) do you think they would provide their services on Saturday in those circumstances??
No. Thought not.
Now don’t you think that we as tax payers should insist (from both the Police authorities and the Administrator) on assurances that past bills have been cleared before any new services are provided.
I certainly do. Warszawa.
Excuse my ignorance on this lads,see this Tax Tribunal that makes the decision is it based in Scotland or England and how many people does it consist of?
Original sadiesbhoy
I follow Neil Lennon on twitter and he has said nothing this afternoon, only Ledley saying they have just left Cameron House, somebody is up to no good.
Stories about stories about Salmond?
We should be above that.
Argue and condemn for his statements, his politics and matters of substance.
PAUL67
I very much doubt if this is the first post along these lines,but today’s article is SIMPLY SUPERB!
Well done,that man.
Rankers winding up the sectarian rhetoric…..plums.
ernie
Based on an interesting conversation I’ve just had, who actually owns Murray Park and who owns the land on which it stands?
TimJim says:
16 February, 2012 at 17:17
‘Naismith on a sicknote getting paid £26K a week First to go (or should be)’
Might his wages be covered by insurance?
Aasmah Mir on radio five sounding very unconvincing on the huns demise……….she’ll be back at ther top of the huns hated list.
Very funny actually.
AM Will cousin play for the huns?
FatLL no I don’t think so.
AM Oh dear thats terrible……………………..:-)
Ernie
My recollection was that another company owned Ibrox and murraypark, the assumption being that Whytey had transferred it.
SPL SFA
Fit and proper test
Whytey disnae pay his taxes, banned director branded unreliable in court
Rangers, tax dodging cheats
Of course he is fit and proper for them, Thayer are a match made in Hades!
• From now on Income must exceed expenditure
That’s a £10m swing by the Huns own admission. There is no way on God’s green earth that they can do that, espcially with reduced season book revenue, no Europe (certainly not Champignons League) and keeping even the threadBEAR squad they have.
Cheerio cheerio cheerioooo, Cheerio cheerio cheeri-ooooo…
Neil Lennon says NO to BESNA!! says:
16 February, 2012 at 17:14
hen1rik says:
16 February, 2012 at 17:11
Bhoys I think we should all write a letter to Celtic advising if Huns lose the taxcase then the trophys gained by cheating must be wiped from their records.
Think of the embarrassment this will cause them, shows to the world they are cheats.
If the MBB hasn’t been paying tax since he took over.
At what point last season did he take over at the huns.
Had the mib already won them the league before the tax evasion started.
share
Was it not may.
GrantHolt twitter today
So glad I didnt go to Rangers, what with them going into Administration. Much prefer playing football and Im rubbish at typing letters #ncfc
Timmy7
I heard that too. Wee’d masel. I don’t think Traynor or Peter Allen got the joke!
neil Lennon 16 58
laffatime no a true tale about him not a nice human being
Was concerned that Celtic PLC (Trading in the black) would not comment on what wide boy salmond said, good on them for being quick to distance us from this shambles.
When the brown stuff really hits the fan it will hit more than just rangers I am starting to think!
Vaultbhoy
Just in and hadn’t seen this when I posted;
Celtic have hit back at Scottish First Minister Alex Salmond’s comments they would not be able to survive without rivals Rangers.
Salmond, in response to the Scottish giants’ financial plight, claimed on Thursday that Celtic would be unable to thrive without the Ibrox club in the Scottish Premier League.
Administrators Duff and Phelps took over Rangers on Tuesday following a dispute with HM Revenue & Customs regarding an outstanding tax bill of £9million.
Celtic chief executive Peter Lawwell spoke out earlier this week in confidence that the Hoops would be as strong as ever should Rangers have to depart the SPL.
Disappointed
“We are very disappointed with the First Minister’s claims that Celtic ‘need’ Rangers and that Celtic ‘can’t prosper unless Rangers are there’,” the club’s official Twitter account read.
“This is simply not true. In a series of interviews given just three days ago, we made it abundantly clear Celtic has a well-defined strategy and a business plan independent of the fortunes of any other club. That remains absolutely the case.
“The predicament of Rangers is clearly a serious and complex matter with a whole range of possible outcomes.
“However, we are extremely well qualified to make our own position clear and have no wish to see that being misrepresented for political reasons.”
hamiltontim says:
16 February, 2012 at 17:22
‘ernie
Based on an interesting conversation I’ve just had, who actually owns Murray Park and who owns the land on which it stands?’
From memory the land is a leashold title the landlord being some war dead memorial trust connected with Kelvinside school.
So technically it depends what you mean by ‘owned’. In effect it’s a huns asset and is included in the accounts.
My dear,dear,dear,friend.. Jungle Jim
Hiya,pally..?
Nice tae greet… and meet..
Why didnae somewan ask..
“Seeing that The Club is Bleeding .. tae the tune of Losing..
Ten Million Pounds, per Annum..this fact, being recently divulged by Mr. Whyte, himsel.
And the reason fur that sorry state of Affairs..is .. Simple.
Income Flow,does not Meet the Total
amount of Expense/Expenses which is/are Needed, in order Tae Run an Enterprise such as that of The G.A.Fitba’ and Goat Rearing Agricultural Club.
Then, that being said…
that begs this Question..’
How do the Administrators plan to Staunch that Bleeding???
If… as you have jist informed…
That , The Administrators do not have any Stated Plans tae
Reduce.. those aforementioned Expenses.. in any shape or Form?”
Right?
Right.
No Expense Reduction Plan, was Eethur Mooted or Booted, By the
Administrators..
From whit Ah could Gether…. fae the reports of the Conference by
Ma Fellah Subscribers on this Blog.
Kojo
yer pal.. who likes ye aloater