There is no outrage louder than moral outrage, so I ignored this week’s stupidity by Kilmarnock chairman Michael Johnston, adding volume seemed moot, but if you look below the bonnet of this decision you’re likely to find the real story. Kilmarnock FC is in a critical condition.
They need your money this week, probably even more than they need the goodwill of their own fans. Mr Johnston’s most damaging folly has not been to offer Celtic fans a better deal than his own club’s supporters, it has been the failure to address the club’s financial imperative over a long number of years. Like another club I can think of, getting cash in the door is the only game in town, as a failure to do so would bring enormous consequences.
It is the Killie fans who suffer as “Speaking as a solicitor” Johnston clings to what passes for power at a busted flush. Don’t apologise for this week’s self-harming insult, instead be contrite about the actions which brought about the problem.
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Masty,
No bother maybe I worded my post wrong about the display! No harm done.. Hail hail
The other day I suggested that perhaps lots of teams had looked at Finnbogason but shyed away was they felt he might only be so successful due to the way Herenveen play and maybe wouldn’t be quite so good playing a different style of football.
He’s now got more goals than the rest of his team combined. So they’re either right or he really is going to be one of the greater goalscorers in his generation.
McDowellcelt god bless wee oscar
no harm at all, mo chara…
Evening,all.
Just had a lovely meal in Glasgow with a large chunk of my family,which necessitated missing out on same with some of our finest on here (Apols,fellas.)
Ingram Wyndham once again recommended,btw.
Off for a beer with another of our finest,PEDROCARAVANECHIO67.
Lot to be said for holidays,you know. I should try it more often.
Then men,
The said nightclub owner , gangster, Hun, married to Arthur THomsons sister had TB open 29 with the cardigan. Of course good friends with Fergie.
V
A local secondary school when I was at a ‘rival’ school, was Victoria Drive. Long gone, but it still makes me smile :)
BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS forza Oscar and Mackenzie
wont be able to partake in the wee soiree on Saturday, mrs masty has other plans for us, deffo make the next one..
TBB@15.15
“Of the 12 clubs in the top division in Scotland, 10 are solvent and cash positive.”
Many 10 year olds with a piggy bank are solvent and cash positive. Both David Murray and Craig Whyte only needed to be cash positive to the tune of £1 in order to buy Rangers.
” Of all the countries in UEFA, Scottish top flight football has most embraced financial prudence, and done so considerably earlier, albeit the imperative to do so was born of individual necessity rather than collective virtue. ”
I don’t disbelieve you but there is no accompanying data for that assertion. We have seen Airdrie, Gretna and Rangers liquidated in recent times and we have seen Motherwell (2002-4), Dundee (twice in 2003-4 & 2010-11), Morton (2000-1), Clydebank (2000), Airdrieonians (2002), Livingston (twice in 2004-5 and again in 2009), Gretna (2008), Clach (2009-now), Rangers (2012-??) Dunfermline (2013-??) and (Hearts 2013-??) all have Administration events or worse. That is 11 clubs and 13 admin events leading to 3 liquidations.
Now some took place a decade ago but 7 have occurred in the last 5 years. It may come out statistically as a smaller proportion of total senior clubs but that is due to Scotland having an inordinate number of senior clubs relative to population in the first place, which is also part of the problem. We have a very fat tail wagging a thin scabby dug.
“The clubs are not bankrupt as you put it. They are (relatively) skint. There’s a world of difference.”
True, they live but they are not a company that a thriving go-ahead club would want to keep.
“Related to the above, Scotland is a marginal consumer market, and as such, does not have the critical media mass to matter to the buyers of content. If you want to be number one in the UK media market, you need to be number one in England, and therefore the English game is the battleground for rights. Scotland is no more relevant to media rights buyers than the East Midlands, indeed, less so.
The logical step for Scotland is to acquire scale – media mass – by joining up with those nations similarly marginalised. I have written about it at quite some length previously and won’t bore you with a repeat, but a counter-balance to the media weight and thus the football gravity of the big leagues in Europe is long overdue. However, as with earlier ideas such as the Atlantic League, new ones such as the Balkans federating, Russia and Ukraine merging, the Czechs and Slovaks similarly, there remains deep resistance within the game at large and no progress.”
I agree with the above but voluntary changes by associate clubs or FAs are not going to be immediately attractive to TV and sponsor markets. Meanwhile the fat cats get fatter and the super rich corner the market.
It is logistically easier for Celtic to gain entry to a pre-existing richer league and, unfortunately, the EPL is nearest,, than it is for several conflicted FAs to overcome their differences and form an agreed new league structure.
I don’t particularly want Celtic in the EPL or English lower league but it may be the only offer on the table when the juncture comes. I pray for some more big clubs in big leagues to go bust to accelerate a fairer market for football for clubs such as ourselves, Anderlecht, Benfica, Ajax etc;
“On the matter of youth development, again related to the above, all top clubs in Scotland now have fairly extensive and effective talent development programmes. All of these clubs, with the exception of Celtic, find that their investment in these programmes makes little discernible difference to either their business or their football team because they cannot afford to keep the kids they develop beyond their 2nd season as a professional. The financial return from selling a Fyvie or a Fraser aged 20 barely pays for the structure that developed them, while the team never gets the impact of their talent as it matures through the early 20s into football performance.”
That is true and a simple change to the minimal value set for stealing a player developed by another club should be set up to age 21, to more than compensate this sum lost.
After all, I believe students can be bound to an employer who pays for their tuition (Armed Services) unless they pay back the costs incurred. A similar rule initiated to justify the cost and preserve the future existence of club youth academies would surely get widespread support, if there was a will.
“Something that is within the gift of the clubs and supporters of the game in Scotland can be done to address this. That something needn’t require seismic change in the wider playing environment or media market to effect meaningful and positive change.”
OK what is it and how would it help us?
“We are a little too apt sometimes to view matters solely through the lens of our own club. Perhaps, if we reground ourselves as Football Supporters rather than Celtic Fans, we might find that what’s good for the Game in Scotland is pretty good for us too.”
I love football but without getting too hippyish about my neighbours. The aims of other clubs are to be more successful in Scottish competitions. For them to achieve that end, we would need to be less successful in Scottish competitions over a longer period. I cannot see what is in it for us.
You hint that the 80s and previous periods were a golden age that may return. I still see it as a suicide note because, without tied contracts, without TV and sponsor steroid money and profile, Scottish clubs are not any more likely to be challenging at significantly higher levels in Europe than are Polish clubs, Slovak clubs, Bulgarian or Belgium clubs.
The Stone Age is past, The Iron Age Gone, The Steam age is comically old. We must evolve with the changing environment or die like dinosaurs who are trying to recapture the climate of their youth.
Weefra
Good evening. Hopefully no sickening slurs on society’s most vulnerable tonight. He scunnered me last night.
I hear the Barca display is an outing of the SFA for their backing of the zombie franchise. Or was that a dream?
Mad couple of nights at the weekend, anniversary, booked a night in Stirling hotel, so……………… does anyone know any good bars in Stirling?
Fastbhoy @ 19:10,
“Regarding the sevco story in the Bisiness Insider,it seems sevco 5088 has been airbrushed out of the equation.Green publicly said he shafted Craigyboy over the switch to sevco. ….”
The thing in the correction to that article that I had forgotten.
The Ranger’s shareholders voted for the Newco to use Rangers in the New Club.
The major shareholder was the Whyte Knight, so knowing Craigyboys M.O. he did it for a reason and he’s taped/documented the quid pro quo.
Hail Hail
Spartak Moscow in talks with Fulham, Aston Villa and Everton. Aiden McGeady contract expires in June 2014. Transfer expected to be effective in January 2014. Spartak demands is 7,5 m GBP, while only one of above three oferred 4 m GBP.
Ffs, up or down the west side of the country’ and then try yer east coasters no one likes us, sounds like Huns, but they say that cause they get protected by the knuckle crunchers, we are holding the SPL or what ever it’s called , till they come back, you may not like it (cause I don’t) but they WILL be back, and why will they be back , because it’s the bigoted country we live in, shame really , time Tim’s stood up for themselves .
Valentinesday,
Minded.
Never crossed my mind.
I was putting ye alongside big Virgil :)
Delaneys Dunky
20:10 on 26 September, 2013
V
A local secondary school when I was at a ‘rival’ school, was Victoria Drive. Long gone, but it still makes me smile :)
my rival school too….. and they were only ever VD
Stairheedrammy
Now, that would be a powerful political masterstroke. :)
Magnificentseven
And now their only flats! :)
Zybszek,
£7.5m is a bit steep for 3 months contract.
Can’t see anyone paying much for a free agent in Jan. Bargain though.
BMCUWP, dont let that wee bro of mine lead you astray:-)). He,ll get you in all sorts of bother and you,ll miss yet another train.
Say hello to PC67 for me and enjoy your evening.
HH
not been past there for a while….didn’t know that
Geordie Munro
20:26 on
26 September, 2013
Valentinesday,
Minded.
Never crossed my mind.
I was putting ye alongside big Virgil :)
Better off wae big Efe…..I’ve lost a yard of
pace in my old age.
BBC Sporf @BBCSporf 53s
VIDEO OF THE DAY: A German 4th division side pretend to mess up a freekick & end up scoring! Absolutely genius!…http://bit.ly/1eHIc5w
I believe we had 27 corners on Tuesday night, need some innovation and inspiration like the video above
DD
Good evening to you too. Been decorating all day so not in the best of moods. So, hopefully, no more shoite against our more vulnerable as I am right in the mood to ATTACK. :))
Weefra HH supporting Wee Oscar.
On Earth wherever there is water there is life. Apart from Govan.
Horizon BBC 4..
That’s what the narrator said.. honest.
HH
Magnificent7
You haven’t been by this century then :)
It’s a jug cup.
tonydonnelly67
They will not be back!!!
Unless you realise they are dead, never tire of telling them.
Something may come back. If you accept that as the same thing then that is your fault
Weefra
Haha. Thats the spirit!
lionroars67
20:34 on
26 September, 2013
How about trying the “rugby throw in ploy” and have a couple of players lift another player higher up to meet ball coming in from corner kick?
Geordie Munro
I think that Spartak need to watch Allen’s “Take the Money and Run” and buy Aiden cello for goodbye supper.
DD
The “spirit” is now the order of the night. Lol.
Weefra HH supporting Wee Oscar.
Paulsatim
I seem to remember Henrik using his own players to get leverage, to great effect, on occasion.
You’re not allowed to gain an advantage by climbing on anybody, including your own team mates.
Goodnight Timland.
Peaky Blinders about tae start on BBC2….fantastic.
Scotland’s Ladies are doing well. 6-0 up against Bosnia, after 64 minutes. If only our men were anything like that…..
….beddie baws calling.
Good niteTimland…… play nice
HH
TBB
My local CSC has virtually no under 16’s who regularly travel with them.
You make great point.
Celtic must either get into the EPL or
Find a way for SKY to reinvest the money that Scots spend on subscriptions back into Scottish football.
We Scots are feeding a neighbour who is killing us off.
TT