Celtic will face Maribor from Slovenia in the Champions League play-off round. Maribor, of course, played a critical part in the death of Rangers, when they eliminated Ally MsCoist’s team from Europe a few months after Craig Whyte took over from Sir David Murray. Having heard the 6-1 aggregate result against Legia, they are already celebrating the draw.
Maribor gave Wigan two hard games in last season’s Europa League, winning their home tie and causing the FA Cup holders more trouble than expected in England. They progressed to the knock out round before going out 4-3 on aggregate to Sevilla – a feat Celtic would not have been capable of. Right now, they should be slight favourites.
If you missed it, today’s earlier article on Lady Luck, HMRC and money is here.
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SydneyTim
04:51 on
9 August, 2014
Macjay. Think those last 4 paragraphs make it quite clear that he is a PL puppet. Why on earth would you spin the Lawwel line at that point
Shame
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Maybe you`re right,Syd.
I don`t think so,but maybe you are.
We`ll both still be Tims while we wonder about it.
My Internet crashed after I asked Google how to spell peadophiliac o_O
NSAGCHQCSC
What a load of tripe some fellow bloggers are typing tonight the Season has not even started In earnest yet & some would try & make us believe that we are in total melt down
So long term financial stability does not come into ones equation & we should approach every turn with spend-spend-spend attitude & head towards financial rack & ruin & one or two signings is all of a sudden walk into our team without a bedding in period & produce the magic when in actual fact football is about successful teams who perform well as a unit spending untold amount of money does not guarantee success for example when was the last time Chelsea won the E.P.L. & they have spent over a billion pounds on transfer fees the hoops @ present are going through a transitional period & the word patience springs to mind not wanting certain individuals hung-drawn & 1/4 due to a couple of bad results in Europe even before the Season has properly kicked off or by not going out & throwing money around like it’s going out of fashion to win domestic trophies Europe is a bonus for the hoops we should really take a reality check as regards to Europe how does one expect to compete against Club’s who have millions @ their disposal via TV Money while we can’t really financially compete even against Clubs in the English Championship let alone the English First Division wake up & smell the coffee beans instead of rambling on about doom & gloom HH
Syd.
You think this is the Lawwell line:
Of course, we do need some new players and we will get them before the play-off round.
What a load of tripe some fellow bloggers are typing tonight the Season has not even started In earnest yet & some would try & make us believe that we are in total melt down
So long term financial stability does not come into ones equation & we should approach every turn with spend-spend-spend attitude & head towards financial rack & ruin & one or two signings is all of a sudden walk into our team without a bedding in period & produce the magic when in actual fact football is about successful teams who perform well as a unit spending untold amount of money does not guarantee success for example when was the last time Chelsea won the E.P.L. & they have spent over a billion pounds on transfer fees the hoops @ present are going through a transitional period & the word patience springs to mind not wanting certain individuals hung-drawn & 1/4 due to a couple of bad results in Europe even before the Season has properly kicked off or by not going out & throwing money around like it’s going out of fashion to win domestic trophies Europe is a bonus for the hoops we should really take a reality check as regards to Europe how does one expect to compete against Club’s who have millions @ their disposal via TV Money while we can’t really financially compete even against Clubs in the English Championship let alone the English First Division wake up & smell the coffee beans instead of rambling on about doom & gloom H.H
AKBW1888
05:06 on
9 August, 2014
Whoa! I feel like I’ve just ran a 400 metre race reading that.
J.A.T.
Did you read it twice?
My own random thoughts on the short term plan adopted by PL, DD and the board.
This was to be a season of transition.
Financial budgeting was for revenues from Europa League.
With a new manager there would be a hiatus in player purchases while the new manager settled in and identified those who would follow and fit in with his football philosophy.
Revenues from anticipated players sales, FF, VVD and Declan Sanchez, would be banked to allow the manager to invest in the January window.
Hopefully the signings would help attract crowds in the event of no further participation in the Europa League.
In the highly unlikely event we were struggling in the SPFL then these signings would also ensure we would win the league and give us a reasonable chance of qualifying for the CL group stages.
This would also put further financial distance between ourselves and the South Side Lazarus.
It now seems we have been handed the possibility of a reprieve and a golden lottery ticket.
Maybe the second part of the master plan will be moved up a transfer window and Ronny will get the investment he needs to compete in Europe through to Christmas.
Macjay. I fear once again they will be once again bench sitters from other teams or haveneverbeens who will sit on our bench
AKBW1888
05:06 on
9 August, 2014
Whoa! I feel like I’ve just ran a 400 metre race reading that.
Yeah I know how you feel but talk about D&G after reading some post’s
on here tonight it’s like oh its time to get out the prozac tablets & the
Lenard Cohen CD’s & drown my head in sorrow :-( :-(
macjay1 for Neil Lennon
05:11 on
9 August, 2014
I don’t think my heart could take reading it twice
Night all, I’ll leave you with a song from a sexy bird and a bearded dude
HH
Phantogram – When I’m Small
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28tZ-S1LFok
AKBW1888
05:13 on
9 August, 2014
lol!
Just Another Tim
05:16 on
9 August, 2014
Night all, I’ll leave you with a song from a sexy bird and a bearded dude
HH
Phantogram – When I’m Small
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28tZ-S1LFok
What about a song by Simon & Garfunkel entitled
Bridge Over Troubled Water
macjay1,
I reckon you are really wrong about Ronny, n, Johnny.
When WGS was taking over from Martin I had a lot less confidence.
My concern was that the guys who got close to Neil as a person would not run through the same brick wall for Ronny, I just saw a clip and there was hesitancy between Scott and Ronny as they went through a door.
Anyone who thinks Scott will make a difference to the Ronny D team right now, is Bonkers, IMO…. and I don’t use that term lightly.
Ronny has a big job on his hands.
Just Another Tim
05:17 on
9 August, 2014
AKBW1888
05:13 on
9 August, 2014
lol!
No wonder one wants to laugh one would end up crying if we where all to believe
that our Club is in total melt down on the no way back road heading towards oblivion as some would try & make us all believe yeah it’s all D&G aye right. H.H.
Ronny Deila is outrageously good on the training field – Scott Broonie.
I don’t buy this SHITE.
Neil Lennon left Scott, So, Grow up.
You are playing for the Celtic Support, SORT yer Men oot and wipe the floor, with Maribor.
Good Day/Night All & Hail – Hail & Keep The Faith Everything Will
Work Out Fine In The End Later’s :-) :-)
I’m still laughing, what a day it’s been.
Droning mineshafter meltdown was the biggest chuckle of all.
Imagine we go on and beat Maribor now, the CQN detractors will blow a fuse!
Lovely.
petec
05:19 on 9 August, 2014
macjay1,
I reckon you are really wrong about Ronny, n, Johnny.
When WGS was taking over from Martin I had a lot less confidence.
My concern was that the guys who got close to Neil as a person would not run through the same brick wall for Ronny, I just saw a clip and there was hesitancy between Scott and Ronny as they went through a door.
Anyone who thinks Scott will make a difference to the Ronny D team right now, is Bonkers, IMO…. and I don’t use that term lightly.
Ronny has a big job on his hands.
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And what should that say about the this group of footballers?
All are, or will be, millionaires who live a plush, cushy lifestyle only most of us could ever imagine.
Shape up, or ship out. Get fitter, get more professional and get on board with the new ideas.
petec
05:19 on
9 August, 2014
Re.Scott, My feeling in the Legia games was that there was a lack of fight in the team.
I think Scott will provide that when he returns.
Is it coincidental that Charlie, who was given the captaincy for these game did not,according to many,perform well?
Any new Celtic coach has to hit the ground running,not stumbling.
I very much hope that Ronny has got what it takes.
We`ll see.
The thing that strikes me about this whole Legia debacle is the player himself.
He knew he was suspended for 3 games.
He sits out 2 games and then agrees to be a sub in the 3rd.
At what point in time did he think this was OK?
Maybe he had been chatting with some of those nice Sevconians who think rules etc… don’t apply to you if you don’t happen to agree with them.
Legia should definitely ask for their appeal to be heard in Edinburgh.
GG
Apologies I mistook your rogic for rogne!.
Doh! Lol
Is rogic not on loan in oz
:-)
HH
Lads.
Tom Rogic
http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/celtic/rogic-desperate-to-impress-new-celtic-boss-deila-170531n.24714885
Rogic was injured in Australia’s warm up for the World Cup.
He is not still on loan at Melbourne. He probably had an operation and is recuperating.
Good morning CQNers,
Ronny is reportedly looking for some quick acquisitions and just for a bit of fun I’ve listed those I like to see shipped out to make room for them – just a bit of idle speculation.
Forster – Let him go (Goneeeeeee!)
Has peaked and is looking frustrated, good shot stopper but loses marks for not commanding his area. He’s served us well but he’s beginning to show arrogant traits that’ll diminish his worth to the team.
Matthews – Keep and review next summer
Was progressive but injury has set him back – In contention for the right back position with Lustig but he hasn’t sparkled recently and question emerging about his commitment, although the question could be answered by a lack of sharpness following his injury.
Izaguirre – Keep and review in January
Defensively he has failings but offers an attacking option. His defensive frailties compromise the team and for that reason his place in the team has to be questioned, although he just might flourish under Melia’s new regime.
Ambrose – Let him go
He is definitely not a centre half and we already have enough cover at the position he plays for his country. There is no doubt about his commitment but lacks composure and a football brain.
Van Dijk – Keep and review at the end of the season.
Progressive and has ability but concerns have surfaced recently about his attitude. He appears unsettled and the question remains about what is unsettling him, just speculating but could it possibly be a personality clash with the new manager?
Mulgrew – Keep for a defensive role.
Inconsistent on a scale from the sublime to the ridiculous – not a captain and not a midfielder but can be utilised at centre half and left back.
Lustig – Keep
Progressive and improving with each season both defensively and with his forays forward.
Bitton – Keep and review at the end of the season.
Shows promise and will need more game-time before making a judgement.
Brown – Keep
Matured into a decent player, limited but decent. Solid captain and will be needed in the transition period for this team.
Boerrigter – Keep and review in January
Has taken time to settle and has shown little promise. New manager may be able to encourage him to improve.
Commons – Keep
Lacks pace but his creative contribution has been recognised far and wide and for that reason we are more likely to see him marked out of more and more games, however he’s still one of the few creative players in the team and more importantly he scores goals.
Berget – ??
Rogic – Keep and review next summer.
Promising early career and won plaudits – showed some promise in his few appearances but if he’s not capable of getting into the Australian world cup squad you’ve got to question whether he’s ready to play for Celtic. Youth is on his side and he just might flourish under Melia with Jim McGuinness’s influence.
Johansen – Keep
Progressive and displaying signs he could compliment Scot Brown in midfield.
Kayal – Punt immediately
Disappointed on too many levels and on too many occasions.
McGregor – Keep
Has played himself into the team very quickly and not over-awed in the least in Europe.
McGeouch – Review next summer
Industrious but hasn’t produced much of note. Early days though.
Forrest – Keep
Progression interrupted by injuries and temperament also questioned at times. Nonetheless he’s young and with Jim McGuinness working on his mindset I hope to see his early promise flower into something greater.
Stokes – Let him go
Still difficult to work out his best position and he hasn’t a goal scorers instinct, there are also questions about his attitude.
Balde – Let him go
An enigma and won’t fit into the Melia’s proposed pattern of play.
Pukki – Review in January
Has shown a bit more confidence in the pre-season and making increasing contribution, he could fit into Melia’s plans and another candidate for Jim McGuinness.
Griffiths – Let him go
Hasn’t shown too much to recommend him on the park and his off-field activities are a distraction, all-in-all a poor return.
If my wish list were to materialise we’d have somewhere in the region of £11m to spend on new acquisitions without touching the current cash reserves.
Just had a strange dream. Dreamt we had been given our place back in the CL, which had the added bonus of sending FF into meltdown, and that I caught the first 2 winners at Ayr races, called Paddys Rock and swift approval. Ah if only dreams came true eh….
…..will go and check the papers now and find out who we drew in the Europa League and have a look at the horses….
Murdoch
Griffiths – Let him go
Hasn’t shown too much to recommend him on the park and his off-field activities are a distraction, all-in-all a poor return.
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Agree with many of your assessments,but not Griffiths.
Very confident that he`ll be a good`un in spite of your justifiable concerns about his extra-curriculars.
Hurting Hun?
Vladimir Weiss was not pleased with the decision to allow Celtic back in the Champions League.
Celtic were comprehensively beaten by Polish champions Legia Warsaw in the Champions League qualifying third round this week, an aggregate score of 6-1 proof enough that they dominated proceedings in both legs.
However, the three minute cameo of an ineligible substitute when the game was as good as dead has seen them get a last minute reprieve, and Celtic are back in the competition.
Today they entered the play-off round stage of the competition as a seeded side, budging Bulgarian outfit Ludgorets Razgrad into the unseeded section in the process. They then went on to receive a favourable draw, NK Maribor of Slovenia standing in their way of a place in the Champions League Group Stages.
And for some it was a decision that rankled – including one former Rangers player. Slovakian Vladimir Weiss spent the 2010-11 season on loan at Ibrox from Manchester City and now plays in Qatar for Lekhwiya, where Michael Laudrup is the manager.
And he released a foul-mouthed rant at the decision on Twitter just after the draw was announced, stating:
“Un f***** believable.. Got r**** 6:1!!! Should never be allowed to play champions league after that.. Embarrassing #f***celtic.”
The meltdown has caused a serious storm on Twitter, mostly for some of the language he used in the Tweet.
True Celtic’s reinstatement is definitely unfair, most Celtic fans themselves would probably admit they have gotten off lightly, but take it on the chin Vlad.
Murdoch
Foster. Love to sell him but no back up with recent 1st team experience
Efe. Taxi
VVD keep
Matthews keep
Izzy. Sell
Mulgrew. Keep as back up
Kayal sell
Biton keep
Lustig keep
Commons keep
Forest. Sell quick before he is back at doc
Mcgeogh. Is he still here. Jesus
Derk sell
Pukki sell
Balde sell
Stokes sell
Griffifths. Play him as a striker
Mcgregor keep
Good morning from a rather wet Nordrhein Westfalen.
For those short-termists who are looking for instant success and want Ronny Deila sacked with immediate effect, what makes you think he won’t walk out on the club because of lack of investment in the team. The problem with football fans, especially Celtic fans is they expect a new manager to win every game.
No, I’m not happy about our performances or the results against Legia but the guy is settling into a new job with a new team in a new country. Plenty of the moaners on here would have had Henke out the door after his first game with Celtic.
I wonder how this new manager would have fared on here with the usual suspects when he first started with his new team in 1965?
Third Lanark (H)
Sat, 3rd Apr 15:00
League Division 1
1:0
Hibernian (A)
Wed, 7th Apr 15:00
League Division 1
4:0
Falkirk (A)
Wed, 14th Apr 15:00
League Division 1
2:6
Partick Thistle (H)
Sat, 17th Apr 15:00
League Division 1
1:2
Dunfermline Athletic (H)
Sat, 24th Apr 15:00
Scottish Cup
3:2
Dunfermline Athletic (A)
Wed, 28th Apr 15:00
League Division 1
1:5
Granted a wee Scottish Cup win helped his cause and the rest as they say is history :-))
TWISTS
Once a hun,eh? Wee nyaff.
I don’t think they paid Man City for his loan either,so he knows a bit about cheating.
Any idea for the horses,bud?
I’m just off nightshift and need help reading the form!
POGMATHONYAHUN.
I knew about the poor run of results as Jock tinkered wi formations looking for the right blend.
But I didn’t realise our 5-1 loss to Dunfermline was AFTER the final!
Any idea what our team was for that one?
Bobby,
John Fallon
Tommy Gemmell
Willie O’Neill
John Clark
Billy McNeill
Jim Brogan
Jimmy Johnstone
Bobby Murdoch
John Hughes
Hugh Maxwell
Bobby Lennox
Morning bobby
Ach my bhoy is off to Ayr tonight ( envious) so asked me to go through the card for him. Sent him my thoughts and those two were my best bets, esp the 2 nd one.
Not studied the big meetings yet but got told Highland Acclaim will take a bit of stopping in the 3 50. Took it at 9/2.
Pogma
Deila and Jock.
Deila and Jock?
Jock.Runs on the board.
Deila?
Murdochbhoy,
Agree with just about all of your assessments. Only one I’d query is keeping Boerrighter…..has shown far too little so far!!
Would selling Kayal, Boerrighter and Balde raise us another 3-4m to be reinvested?
POGMATHONYAHUN
None of those players should ever grace the Hoops again!
Bloody disgrace.
Truthfully,I’m gobsmacked at that team taking a pummelling,Jock must have worked wonders in the close-season.
Shows the benefit of patience,methinks.
Btw,thanks bud.