Surprised at the success our former (very successful) managers, Martin O’Neill and Gordon Strachan, are having on the international stage? Perhaps a bit surprised they’ve figures out how to collect points away from home in Europe.
Martin O’Neill will always be royalty at Celtic but after a couple of well-financed seasons at Aston Villa his star fell, eventually leading to an ignominious departure from Sunderland, who managed to replace him, and improve, under Paulo DiCanio.
A decade earlier Martin was the hottest property in management in the UK. Campaigns were run by Liverpool fans to tempt him, he was tipped for the Manchester United job when Alex Ferguson retired, but the absurd reality that Di Canio was able to stop the decline of O’Neill’s Sunderland team damaged his brand considerablty.
Gordon Strachan had a claustrophobic four years at Celtic. He became only the third manager in our history to win three consecutive league titles, and broke new ground in the Champions League, but Celtic’s commercial competitiveness declined during this era, making Gordon’s life harder than it would otherwise have been.
The Ireland and Scotland jobs both looked like poisoned chalices. Ireland reached Euro 2012 but came home pointless, looking like a team in decline. Scotland had fallen so low they were hardly in decline when Gordon Strachan took over from Craig Levein last year, but it seemed shifting demographics had consigned our interest to club football only.
Martin may have found his niche. His teams have always known how to defend and how to score goals, issues like ball retention always appeared trivial to him. Gordon is an example of a manager who is always learning. He was an excellent Celtic manager but it should surprise no one that he is a better manager now than he was when he left five years ago.
I’ve absolutely no idea which side is going to win the bun fight for control over Newco Rangers, but, there is some interesting form to consider……
Just when people with money and a plan (on this occasion Ashley with the Easdales) look to have things sorted, the cabal, previously known as the Blue Knights, pitch up without the wherewithal to take control and drive a poisoned wedge between fans and club.
It’s a master-class in subversion. Based on his previous exploits my money’s not on the tax crook (the one convicted in South Africa, that is) succeeding.
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MIGHTY TIM
Just catching up. Is St Leonard’s in Govan a church?
i hate posting on my phone
TET
Just caught up from last night , mail sent , as yet no reply .
HH
Glorious morning here.Sea like a sheet of glass.Walked the dog on the beach.A great to be alive morning.
No doubt that will change when the usual suspects come on here,with their doom and gloom.
Congrats to wee Nicola.She has all the makings of a right wee firebrand.Good for politics.
BMCUW morning M. I hope so mate as going with the Mrs to a funeral tomorrow. Might be closer to the palace of art mate or Paisley road west.
HH
KTF
I’ve just read On Fields Of Green (James Forrest) ……. Something needs to be one about all this, if we are to restore any credibility at all to Scottish Football…….it is utterly scandalous …..
Judge for yourselves ……
http://www.onfieldsofgreen.com/unfit-and-improper/?ct=t(Unfit_and_improper_10_15_2014)
TET tried twice last night to send email from phone it never went. Probably more to do with my lack of techy stuff. Will send today from proper laptop.
HH
KTF
hoop doggydog
08:44 on 16 October, 2014
…and I hate predictive text …… Hahahaha
Batsman,
Thanks for the article on Borussia Dortmund. Very interesting read.
If Lennon’s Passion is lurking, can I ask you to read On Field Of Green’s latest article, then ask me why I don’t want sevco anywhere near Celtic Park ever again….
Twists n turns
Tried to call you at Musselburgh races but phone wasn’t accepting calls, tried three times,but I ended having to go home after the second race,blood +sugar levels fell to quick for my liking.
Put a tenner on your tip At 9/1,just now, B/T must have got same price, With all the medication he’s taking the 9 must have looked like a 7.
MIGHTY TIM
Googled St Leonard’s,only one that comes up is in East Kilbride.
I’ll text the site taxi-driver,see if he knows.
“We are a football club,” Cramer adds. “If the football doesn’t run properly, the rest of the business would not work. The business is part of a train, but not the engine.”
From Dortmund article
kitalba.
I think you should ask Gordon if he has a spare ticket,he’s usually good for one.
Oldtim
Geez I assumed you were not there! I was using my phone all day so dont understand wh you didnt get me. Yeah 9/1 now. Value at that price. It was 7/1 earlier.
67 Heaven….me too mate
Westies/Batman
Can you give me the link to Borussia Dortmund article
Cheers
Kikinthenakas
BMCUW I think the chapel is actually called St.Leo. I know St. Leonards in EK. Could be that Mrs has got the name wrong haha. I would not put it past her.
HH
KTF
BMCUW got it mate. It’s St.Leo the Great. Beech Ave next to Bellahouston mate. Thanks for helping anyway M.
HH
KTF
Was over in Munich last year went to the Bayern v Augsburg match…great matchday experince featuring excellent beer & hot dogs with a superb atmosphere created by the Bayern (standing) ultras unfortunately it cost me € 170 for my son and i so i didnt get to feel the glow of cheap admission.It was well worth it though.
Football in France is also very inexpensive compared to Scotland went to a few Monaco matches in the late 90s/eerly 00s cost for admission was £2 for a seat behind the goals.
Was talking about admission prices in the pub. Any idea how some big leagues can charge so little compared to the UK?
twists n turns.
When I arrived in Edinburgh heading into Musselburgh I stood at the platform where the Musselburgh train usually leaves from,there was a train there but it seemed dead not a single person going on board stood for about 5 mins then went to the main board and read that there was no trains running into Musselburgh that day,I had to walk up to the street where the bus was leaving from,two flights of stairs finished it for me,I started to get a bit angry by then,and even more angry when the driver wouldn’t stop the train when we passed the racecourse I asked politely if I could get of and he come up with I have to take you to where I drop you off, Wallyford isn’t far from Musselburgh but the driver took us the long route round,I was demented by this time,I wanted to bet the horse in the first race,I missed that by ten minutes,a blessing in disguise really,it got humped, not in the first three so I probablly saved 40-50 quid but that was the start of me feeling that I was getting yukky,had £20 on the 2nd race beaten into 2nd place,by then I was near in a trance so decided to eff off back to Edinburgh, I called you three times and I coldn’t get through.That’s the reason I went back to Glasgow to meet all those bampots at the hootinannie.I’m not checking this post if it’s all mixed up it’s because my heads all mixed up at the moment.
The exiled tim email sent mate.
Bhoys please email these scumbags info@coastalsoftware.co.uk it might not get TET his money back but might stop others from being scammed. Also put there name on any other forum or social media that you use. Scamming bassas.
HH
KTF
67heaven … i am neil lennon ….the angels are with wee oscar in heaven.. ibrox belongs to the creditors
09:08 on 16 October, 2014
Not read the article Mr Forrest doesn’t do it for me sorry. Give me the highlights please.
For the record I don’t want zombies back either. But when they get back I will still go and watch Celtic regardless of who they are playing.
MIGHTY TIM
Well done,mate.
That’ll teach you to take directions from the fairer sex,haha!
KIKINTHENAKAS
bawsman
08:29 on 16 October, 2014
Could we fill our stadium?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/29624410
Morning Tmland from a damp hun free mountain valley.
Thanks for the help re them scammin bassas.
Was back at the bank today, we will get our cash back, but it will take a couple of months, just as well we are no that strapped for 100 quid.
I just want them hassled, everytime they open an e mail, it takes up some of their time.
info@coastalsoftware.co.uk
Please mail them, make their life a pain.
Many thanks bhoys.
HH
Email sent
HH
THE EXILED TIM
Already done,mate.
Spam the scammers,I say!
TET
Email sent and advised mates to do same!
Take care Bud!
oldtim67:
I’m sorted with tickets, I was after a couple of seats on a supporters bus. No big deal if I have to drive though.
Lennon’s Passion
In short the game is corrupt.
This is my last season of involvement of any kind if nothing changes to tackle the corruption.
I’d be paying them to cheat me.
auldheid- you can add that coward Regan’s compliance with King to any list shortly.
Auldheid
Why do you think so many supporters have already drifted away.
The five way agreement borders on the criminal if it wasn’t actually criminal.
roy croppie
20:32 on 15 October, 2014
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Dalglish v Dundee
HH
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Roy, thanks for posting that pic fella.
It’s from the game were a young KJ was getting his pic taken in the tunnel before the start of ‘that’ game with my favorite player of that time – Big Shuggie.
Shuggie was my fovorite at that time as, he was the last Celtic player to score v’s the huns :)
I had the copy of the edition of ‘that’ weeks Celtic View in my late mothers house and when she passed away, some things were misplaced.
I checked a few times over my remaining editions of the CV and I came across a young Bernard Ponsonby who I used to see quite a lot when I had a SB in the Jock Stein Stand
and his pic was taken round about the same time.
The tunnels are being dug as I speak to try and retrieve ‘that’ editon of the CV.
If I’m lucky enough to get a hold of it – I’ll get the bhoy or, KJ(junior) to post on here for ye.
Btw….the game in the pic was a 3-3 draw.
Oh, and another wee milestone was reached ‘that’ day as, KJ was the first ‘ever’ Celtic-Bhoy to be pictured with his hero wearing the hoops as my parents were running late.
I was wearing a duffle-coat and some folk said that I looked like the young Damien from the Omen :)
Maybe they were right? :)
Hail Hail
Bye.
kitalba.
There must be some people on here that travel in the supporters buses,surely if they read you want a couple of spare seats and they have a bus that’s running with a few seats spare they’ll offer you them.
Kitalba
I could probably get you a couple of seats on my own bus that leaves from the Gallowgate, let me know.
TET
Email sent mate.