Media and Spartak take hit for underestimating Celtic

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Celtic’s win in Moscow on Tuesday has caused an interesting introspection in Russia, with both Spartak and some in the Russian media coming under scrutiny.  The pre-match tone was set by comments we reported from former Spartak player and coach, Andrey Tikhonov, who, on the day of the draw, said:

“Barcelona are favourites from the group. We and Benfica will be fighting for second place.

“Celtic are outsiders. The Champions League competition is about very good technical football.  It has nothing to do with running after the ball that somebody kicked forward.”

Another former Spartak player and Soviet international, who now works as a technical analyst and all-round raconteur , Aleksandr Bubnov, had a completely different take on Celtic, Spartak and the Russian and Scottish media.

Bubnov told Russian television:

“Spartak players thought they could push Celtic defenders around like toys.  They played long crosses forward like the idiots.  Celtic defenders knocked back everything.  It was like training for Celtic, they were on holiday.

“When Celtic attacked for the first time, de Zeeuw thought that Insarualde would stop the Celtic player, Insarualde thought Pareja will stop him.  When Celtic scored de Zeew asked, ‘Where was Pareja ?’  Pesjakov answered de Zeeuw, “You forgot?  Pareja is still at the lunch, he will be back for the second half.”

Bubnov criticised TV analysts who before the game debated whether Celtic would survive in the bottom half of the Russian premier division or a lower division.  He added:

“We were told by the experts that Spartak will shut Celtic out, kill them and bury outside the stadium.  They are experts, they watch games, they take money for this kind of analysis.  They told us Celtic are one story heroes.

“They talked about Rangers relegated to the fourth Division for financial cheating.  You see how they do things there?  What fantastic salvation. You are cheaters Rangers?  OK, go and take long rest.  Those in charge are professionals, nobody would help Rangers. They don’t go to the president, or the prime minister.

“Cherdantsev (TV expert) never played football.  You heard him, Spartak players and all these experts. ‘No problem, champions of Scotland?  Who are Celtic, who are Scotland?

“Experts?  Did they watch Celtic against Benfica? Benfica are top in Portugal, Celtic drew with them.  Even the stupid Scottish experts came here and told us Spartak would win 2-0.”

When asked how Spartak should play in the return game against Celtic, Bubnov suggested:

“You need to close wings and play carefully at the back. Celtic will not perform like Spartak did against Barcelona. They played and let the other team play.

“Neil Lennon was very smart coach.  He closed Spartak options on the wings.  Emeri (Spartak manager) should close Celtic wings.  Emeri’s tactics was move wingers to the centre to leave more room for attacks from left and right defenders.  But, our defenders were poor and slow.

“Emeri was stupid, he moved Aiden McGeady and Dmitri Kombarov to the centre because Neil Lennon closed wings.  What happened? They both played out of position and Kombarov scored an own goal.”

“Spartak were open on the wings and there was a brothel at the back.  Neil Lennon did what he wanted to do with Spartak”

Conversational Russian is apparently rich with imagery.

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  1. I’d keep the back 4 together for Sunday but bring in Forrest & Ledley for Brown & Mulgrew. Can afford a more attacking line up at home in SPL.

     

     

    —————-Forster——————-

     

    Lustig Ambrose Wilson Izzaguirre

     

    ———Wanyama Ledley————

     

    —Forrest Commons Samaras—-

     

    ————–Hooper——————–

     

     

    Subs Miku Watt Kayal Brown Matthews Mulgrew Zaluska

  2. philvisreturns on

    Was Joe Ledley saying that “I-Can’t-Believe-It’s-Not-Rangers” are like Craig Whyte’s wealth? (thumbsup)

  3. Charlie Mulgrew signs new deal til 2016,well done big man,given a 2nd chance and grabbed it with both hands.

  4. T4 could be just a need for a riding fee but I see mr spencer leaves Yarmouth to travel to ascot for one ride in the last…..

  5. Congratulations to glendaly & family

     

    Welcome to the celtic family Glen junior MAY ALL YOUR DAYS BE BLESSED.

     

    HAIL HAIL

  6. Finally the zombies know their place…

     

     

    SportTimes columnist Johnstone believes Rangers had no chance of beating their city rivals with so many players out injured.

     

     

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    retail

     

     

    Big Derek said: “The last thing Rangers would have wanted was Celtic. If we are being perfectly honest, they can compete with any other side in the SPL on their day at the moment. But Celtic would have been too much for them with the experience and the good players they have got.

     

     

    “I am sure Rangers fans would have been dreading getting Celtic while Hoops supporters would have desperate to get Rangers.

     

     

    “I think Ally will be delighted to get a home draw and delighted to avoid Celtic.”

     

     

    Johnstone, though, thinks Rangers will have a slim chance of beating Celtic if they overcome Inverness Caledonian Thistle in their quarter-final at Ibrox at the end of the month.

     

     

    McCoist is without forward Andy Little, winger David Templeton and striker Francisco Sandaza at the moment due to a injuries.

     

     

    He is hoping to have Ian Black and Dean Shiels, who both missed the William Hill Scottish Cup showdown with Forres last weekend, back for the Saturday’s game against Stirling Albion at Forthbank. Johnstone added: “If Rangers get through this game there is a one-in-three chance they will get Celtic in the semis.

     

     

    “They would be better placed to beat them then. They could have all their players back by that stage and would have a chance.

     

     

    “But at this stage, no. Just look at the Celtic side. They have the best squad of players in Scotland by a distance. In fact, their second team would probably be good enough to win the SPL this season.

  7. hebcelt

     

     

    11:56 on 5 October, 2012

     

     

    Cail Bruich

     

     

    and ….PFayr

     

     

    your better half has the details of that Tuscan wine do at Wisharts.

  8. Paul Lambert

     

     

    loved him at celtic,met him a few times,great guy too

     

     

    he,s suing norwich for breach of contract?

     

     

    did he not walk away?

     

     

    i thought he jumped ship from every club he managed?

     

     

    bb

  9. Congratulations Charlie Mulgrew. One of a select band (him and Bertie Auld) who came back and was better 2nd time around.

  10. whitedoghunch T4 pfayr thanks for the responses.Cail Bruiach has been on my radar for some time,decisions decisions. Hail Hail Hebcelt

  11. South Of Tunis on

    Ten Men Won The League ——

     

     

    Miccoli ——- Yes —– a player .

     

     

    Wears an earring that used to belong to Maradona . Paid 25 k euros for it at a public auction . Story was that the Italian tax man confiscated Diego’s earring at Napoli airport as a wee part payment of the millions of euros that Maradona owes the Italian tax man .

  12. TODAY the new £113million Emirates Arena in Glasgow’s East End threw open its doors to the public for the first time.

     

     

    Over the weekend thousands of people are expected to visit the dramatic new building across from Celtic Park, which will be one of the main venues for the 2014 Commonwealth Games.

     

     

    It will offer superb facilities for elite athletes but will also be used on a daily basis by local people.

     

     

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    Hobbies and general interest

     

     

    Cyclists will be able to train in the Sir Chris Hoy Velodrome while the arena complex offers a gym, dance studio, sports halls, outdoor floodlit five-a-side pitches and an indoor sports park.

     

     

     

    Zombies will have their casino right enough…:0)

  13. hebcelt

     

     

    If you fancy a trip down to Troon (!) and you have never been there before, I would recommend ‘McCallum’s’ at the harbour.

     

     

    Finest seafood restaurant in the area imho.

     

     

    HH!!

  14. Bom dia,

     

     

    A few days ago I posted a link about a poor, unfortunate Tim who made the mistake of wearing the hoops to last Sunday’s Corinthians v Sport game in São Paulo.

     

     

    Seems like now Corinthians are desperate to get a hold of the guy to make ammends

     

    http://esporte.uol.com.br/futebol/campeonatos/brasileiro/serie-a/ultimas-noticias/2012/10/04/corinthians-tenta-achar-escoces-de-verde-expulso-do-pacaembu-para-presentea-lo-com-uniforme.htm

     

     

    I’ve done a rough translation of what the article says, but the closing chapters are a belter. Dunno where the guys got their info from, but guess it wasn’t the Larkhall Tourist Board !!

     

     

    Corinthians tries to find “Scottish green” expelled from Pacaembu to present him with uniform

     

     

    Corinthians are trying to find the Scottish tourist who was wearing a green top and was removed from the VIP area at the Pacaembu match against Sport, Sunday. Corinthians marketing department began their search on Monday, but could not succeed in locating the tourist, whose identity has not yet been discovered. Their idea is to find the “gringo” and offer him a Corinthians uniform as a way to minimize the embarrassment caused.

     

     

    “We’re trying to locate this Scottish guy. We are tracking him. It was clear that he did not know of the rivalry and ended up being harassed by fans. But Corinthians want to find him to show that he will be welcome. If he is to stay longer in the country, we invite you to know the CT (training camp), the players. But we hope to find him” said the marketing director of Corinthians, Ivan Marques.

     

     

    The tourist visited the Pacaembu in the uniform of Celtic, Scottish club that has horizontal stripes in green and white shirt. The combination in Brazil refers mainly to Palmeiras, Corinthians archrival.

     

     

    The presence of an “alviverde” bothered many Corinthians fans, who shouted at the tourist asking him to leave the place. Police were advised and accompanied the Scot out of seated sector.

     

     

    Without understanding why it caused such anger, the Scot received a “neutral” shirt to wear in another sector to watch the game. Despite being alone at the stadium, he did not record a police report.

     

     

    According to Major Luiz Gonzaga, who dealt with the Scot in Pacaembu, the visitor was unaware of the reason for the incident.

     

     

    Scottish city ‘prevents’ green

     

     

    The most intolerant Corinthianos would feel well in Larkhall, Scotland. The city has restricted the green.

     

     

    Shops are prohibited from using the green facades. The fast food chain, Subway, for example, had to redesign the logo to avoid color.

     

     

    Green faces very strong rejection in Larkhall as it is associated with Catholicism, Celtic and Irish Republicanism. Most people in Larkhall are Protestant, unionist and linked to Glasgow Rangers, Celtic’s archrival, wearing the color blue.

  15. Guid Afternoon CQNer’s

     

     

    I was curious as to what benefits we got from traveling to USA(apart from £1mill) for Real Madrid game then, listening again to WGS….it struck me. WGS opined after the RM game that – “Mulgrew fell asleep at RM’s first goal !!!” – From what I have seen since…CM has hardly played in defence !!!

     

    Neil has deployed Charlie in what I consider to be his best position – midfield.

     

    How many clangers have lost at the back since CM was taken out of the back 4 ?

     

    Neil is now demonstrating – shrewdness – on a Mr Stein scale. imo.

     

    Charlie Mulgrew has to stay in midfield – CSC

     

    P.S. But then again…what do Neil and I know about anything ? :o)))

     

    Hail Hail

  16. Asonofdan

     

    That’s a misleading post, it’s common knowledge the 6* hotel will be built in zombie ville before the casino.

  17. traditionalist88 on

    KevJungle : ‘Neil is now demonstrating – shrewdness – on a Mr Stein scale. imo.’

     

     

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    Happy Clapper;)

     

     

    HH

  18. Seen this on TSFM blog :))

     

    Till later

     

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    Humble Pie says:

     

    Friday, October 5, 2012 at 01:43

     

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    Jabba – too big to fail ? or just too big ?

     

    The abject failure of the Scottish football media to properly inform it’s audience of the events and consequences of the wanton chicanery going on over at Ibrox over the last decade or more has had a devastating effect on Scottish society, particularly in the West of Scotland. It has also served, somewhat ironically, to accelerate the exponential decline of the print media which we have been experiencing since the rise of the Internet.

     

    With the evolution of the content and accessibility of the World Wide Web, people are understandably choosing to get their news from more factual and less conflicted sources. Most right minded people know implicitly that the red tops don’t really inform them and contain nothing more than advertising, sensationalist flannel, celebrity gossip and gruesome scare stories to enthral their ever-dwindling readership. Ask any man in the (Scottish)street why he still reads them and they will usually say something along the lines of “I only buy it for the football pages”. I suspect that it is this readership (i.e. those who start reading from the back page) that has been the foundation on which it has continued to be profitable for media companies to print and sell this rubbish.

     

    By pandering to the more bass elements of our communities (the lowest common denominators, if you will) the tabloids have managed to fill the heads of an eager and gullible public with a false sense of misguided resentment, conspiratorial fantasy and misplaced adulation. By purveying a heady assortment of innuendo, half-truths and outright lies, they have manipulated the zeitgeist to suit their own corporate agenda and, in doing so, have sown further discord and division between football fans in communities the length and breadth of the country. This deliberate polarisation (causing to concentrate on two conflicting or contrasting positions) of their readership may well ‘shift copy’, however, these editors know full well the very ‘real’ harm this can cause in local communities.

     

    No-one likes to think of themselves as a fool, and yet, we continue to subject ourselves to the continued self-serving slaverings of the likes of Messrs Traynor, Keevins, King, Leckie et al, (no disrespect intended or implied to the other rubbish football hacks out there who did not make the list) not only on the back pages but also over our airwaves, doing all they can to undermine the very fabric of our society and our beautiful game at the same time. The quality of debate on sports radio phone-ins esp. BBC Scotland’s Your Call and Clyde’s Superscoreboard is at best puerile, at worst antagonistic and inflammatory.

     

    Mr Traynor (or Jabba as he is affectionately known in the blogosphere) is one of the worst of his ilk. A self-righteous blowhard who sways with his own wind while inciting mistrust and feigning indignation. Mr Keevins, try as he might, with his nasally forced, over-enunciated take on the issues (pronounced ‘isss ewes’), doesn’t come close to inflicting the kind of damage that Jabba leaves in his not insignificant wake. Mr King displays the kind of arrogant, self-serving, ned-like behaviour that we have come to expect of the compliant sports media in Scotland. The less said about Mr Leckie and his unworthy rag the better.

     

    Over the years I have heard one particular tabloid referred to many times as both The Daily Ranger and The Daily Rebel. How so ? What black arts had been employed to enable them to delude both sets of supporters of the old ‘Old Firm’ into believing this newspaper (sic) ‘obviously’ favoured the rival club. At its simplest, it is down to demographics. If your market research show e.g. that 70% of your readers are supporters of Rangers (sic) and 30% Celtic, the editorial team will ensure they publish an appropriate amount of positive (and negative) stories about each club. At an altogether more sinister and insidious level, Lewis Carroll’s Mock Turtle summed it up best “Reeling and Writhing of course, to begin with, and then the different branches of Arithmetic – Ambition, Distraction, Uglification, and Derision”. Encouraging people to think of themselves as victims, promoting triumphalism and hinting at secret agendas has nothing to do with football and everything to do with social engineering.

     

    There can be no doubt about the role of the MSM in Scotland in bringing about Rangers (sic) demise, however, they have yet to be brought to account for this and continue to talk down the game in this country at every opportunity. In doing so they have established some new myths which seek to dictate public opinion and manufacture consent (see Noam Chomsky). These falsehoods include the following:

     

    Only two (or sometimes one) unscrupulous individuals were responsible for the demise of Rangers.

     

    EBTs and the failure to properly register players contracts were administrative errors.

     

    Rangers are being picked on when many other clubs operate(d) similar tax avoidance schemes.

     

    It was Rangers holding company which went bust, Rangers FC continues to survive.

     

    Rangers were relegated to SFL3 (and their fans are loving it).

     

    Rangers have been punished enough and only bogits and idiots would seek further punishment.

     

    Scottish football cannot survive without Rangers which necessitates a complete restructuring of the leagues.

     

    Any critical thinker who has watched the unfolding saga at Ibrox, knows all of the above to be complete fabrications. Bloggers and posters at RTC and TSFM have surgically dissected each of these statements and shown them to be at best misinformation, at worst disinformation. Yet this type propaganda continues to be promulgated and broadcast to the more sensitive and the less critically-minded of our citizens. It might cause arguments in the pubs and fights in the streets of Glasgow but it sure sells papers and makes profits for unprincipled typists unworthy of the title of journalists.

     

    Fair and balanced ? – I don’t buy it! and I humbly suggest that you don’t either.

  19. traditionalist88

     

     

    12:54 on 5 October, 2012

     

     

    KevJungle : ‘Neil is now demonstrating – shrewdness – on a Mr Stein scale. imo.’

     

     

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    Happy Clapper;)

     

     

    HH

     

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    Well now….I’ve been called far worse than that on here before :o)

  20. hebcelt

     

     

    Brian Maule is awful as was his team.

     

    Not that I judged the place on that.

     

     

    For very special in Glasgow it is either Cail Bruich or the Blysthwood Hotel

     

    Mrs Hebcelt may enjoy the Blythswood as it has been so beautifully restored

     

    and feels like a treat. The bar is quite stunning and the food is very good.

     

    have the shin.Look at thier menu.

  21. Rioskorrie

     

     

    Love this part of the article!

     

     

    Scottish city ‘prevents’ green

     

     

    The most intolerant corintianos would feel well in Larkhall, Scotland. The city has restricted the green.

     

     

    Shops are prohibited from using the green facades. The fast food chain, Subway, for example, had to redesign the logo to avoid color.

     

     

    Green faces very strong rejection in Larkhall to be associated with Catholicism, Celtic and Irish Republicanism. And most people in Larkhall is Protestant, unionist and linked to Glasgow Rangers, Celtic’s archrival, wearing the color blue.

  22. CQN golf

     

     

    Dermot Desmond T97 at St Andrews

     

     

    Do you think God is punishing for saying nice things about Zombies ?

  23. traditionalist88 on

    KevJungle

     

     

    There is a feeling that we are at the start of something special and if we can keep the majority of this young squad together for the forseeable future and supplement it with more shrewd signings the sky is the limit.

     

     

    Having to negotiate 3 Champions League qualifiers in future is a bit concerning but a bridge we will cross when we come to it.

     

     

    HH

  24. WDH

     

     

    I love the Blytheswood.

     

    I’m staying again for the weekend if the 19th.

     

    However , the last 2 meals that I have had in the restaurant have been disappointing.

     

    A67