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Celtic’s win in Moscow on Tuesday has caused an interesting introspection in Russia, with both Spartak and some in the Russian media coming under scrutiny.  The pre-match tone was set by comments we reported from former Spartak player and coach, Andrey Tikhonov, who, on the day of the draw, said:

“Barcelona are favourites from the group. We and Benfica will be fighting for second place.

“Celtic are outsiders. The Champions League competition is about very good technical football.  It has nothing to do with running after the ball that somebody kicked forward.”

Another former Spartak player and Soviet international, who now works as a technical analyst and all-round raconteur , Aleksandr Bubnov, had a completely different take on Celtic, Spartak and the Russian and Scottish media.

Bubnov told Russian television:

“Spartak players thought they could push Celtic defenders around like toys.  They played long crosses forward like the idiots.  Celtic defenders knocked back everything.  It was like training for Celtic, they were on holiday.

“When Celtic attacked for the first time, de Zeeuw thought that Insarualde would stop the Celtic player, Insarualde thought Pareja will stop him.  When Celtic scored de Zeew asked, ‘Where was Pareja ?’  Pesjakov answered de Zeeuw, “You forgot?  Pareja is still at the lunch, he will be back for the second half.”

Bubnov criticised TV analysts who before the game debated whether Celtic would survive in the bottom half of the Russian premier division or a lower division.  He added:

“We were told by the experts that Spartak will shut Celtic out, kill them and bury outside the stadium.  They are experts, they watch games, they take money for this kind of analysis.  They told us Celtic are one story heroes.

“They talked about Rangers relegated to the fourth Division for financial cheating.  You see how they do things there?  What fantastic salvation. You are cheaters Rangers?  OK, go and take long rest.  Those in charge are professionals, nobody would help Rangers. They don’t go to the president, or the prime minister.

“Cherdantsev (TV expert) never played football.  You heard him, Spartak players and all these experts. ‘No problem, champions of Scotland?  Who are Celtic, who are Scotland?

“Experts?  Did they watch Celtic against Benfica? Benfica are top in Portugal, Celtic drew with them.  Even the stupid Scottish experts came here and told us Spartak would win 2-0.”

When asked how Spartak should play in the return game against Celtic, Bubnov suggested:

“You need to close wings and play carefully at the back. Celtic will not perform like Spartak did against Barcelona. They played and let the other team play.

“Neil Lennon was very smart coach.  He closed Spartak options on the wings.  Emeri (Spartak manager) should close Celtic wings.  Emeri’s tactics was move wingers to the centre to leave more room for attacks from left and right defenders.  But, our defenders were poor and slow.

“Emeri was stupid, he moved Aiden McGeady and Dmitri Kombarov to the centre because Neil Lennon closed wings.  What happened? They both played out of position and Kombarov scored an own goal.”

“Spartak were open on the wings and there was a brothel at the back.  Neil Lennon did what he wanted to do with Spartak”

Conversational Russian is apparently rich with imagery.

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  2. iki on

    In a spirit of optimism on a boozy Friday evening

     

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    Just been informed that it is Thursday !

     

     

     

    But I now know that nobody on here pays any attention to my posts

  4. Kojo on

    Gotta Go.. Mo..

     

     

     

    Good Night Scotland

     

    Good Night Ireland

     

    Good Night Wales

     

    Good Night England

     

    Good Night Canada

     

    Good Night New Zealand

     

    Good Night Australia

     

     

    And

     

     

    Good Night.. Ronnie Anderson ,wherever you are

     

     

    Kojo

     

    Still.. Laughin’… like Heidi.

  5. Art of War on

    BT – haven’t read all the way back but I hear you lost a couple of appeals! Aye or no?

     

     

    I haven’t heard of any cracking down on appeals and I’m sure I would have heard something if that were true. You must be losing your Petrocelli skills of deduction. ;-)

     

     

    Don’t know if you remember but I’ve `dropped down’ a grade and now process decisions that I used to make. The number of poor decisions has really surprised me. I’m not claiming to be Solomon but I did my damnest to get the decision right based on the evidence – which included speaking to the customer – and with fairness in mind.

     

     

    From what I have seen there are DM’s who care and are interested in what they do and those who just stick dates into a template and have no interest in what impact this can have on others. Not being judgemental, just factual.

     

     

    One instance – and this is one case you would have one – springs to mind whereby a client had twice been place in the Support Group. On the third occasion the DM placed them in the WRAG for 3 months. That alone made my alarm bells ring but the interesting point is that the client was psychotic and was a danger to themselves and the public if placed in `group’ situations. ALL this evidence was available to the DM but was either ignored or missed. Made my blood boil and I refused to process it.

     

     

    Anyhow, sorry for boring everyone but this is reality people and it is happening EVERY day!

     

     

    HH

  11. Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire on

    VogueP…,

     

    I’m ith you in the bhold bhoy, everybody should be given the chance to apologise, he did on the night but there was a bloodlust that demanded a victim.

  12. Dublinbhoy on

    TSOAL

     

     

    I didn’t want him to think I was being ambiguous :)

     

     

    Hail Hail

     

     

    ps its pog ma thoin in Irish Gaelic :)

  14. The Spirit of Arthur Lee on

    Dublinbhoy

     

     

     

    Nae ;problem

     

     

    Anyway off to watch my box set of Rainbows and Clouds

     

     

    Roll on Friday

  15. praecepta on

    Must be a quiet evening when the Aiden debate arises again!

     

     

    Whilst with us – Aiden was a good player.

     

     

    From what I’ve seen of him since – I think he is an improved player – question is will he go on to be a better player?

     

     

    For what it’s worth – I think Hamiltontim and Kojo’s posts are a correct synopsis of a player that came through our System – wouldn’t argue with a repeat of the process every 2 years with some of our youngsters!

     

     

    We got a good deal (£4M difference between him and Ki?) and so did he – we’ve made good use of it (an exciting young team with potential) – he has to do likewise if he wants to go to the EPL.

     

     

    We know he retains a love for the Club – time to move on for him and the support.

  23. petec on

    First bit of time I’ve had to post to the blog since the end of the game on Tuesday.

     

     

    I was really looking forward to the Spartak game away more than any other in the group because I felt this was the best place to get 3 points (away). It was always going to be difficult to get anything there but it is my opinion we are witnessing something really special happening before our eyes.

     

     

    Spartak’s first goal was a goal of the highest quality and Celtic defeated a very good team with plenty to spare IMO.

     

     

    Efe has never played at that level before and he himself will know now he has to be switched on at every second against these players as they are absolutely lethal. Efe will be an incredible acquisition by Celtic and will show it over the coming years though he still put in an excellent performance that helped us win the game.

     

     

    I thought Broonie once again was incredible, especially when we brought on young James, we are very lucky to have this guy in our team as he is a very special player, he’s not flashy or highly skilled but he is incredibly important to the team.

     

     

    Big Lustig was magnificent and it was good to see the lad put in such a strong performance in such a difficult arena.

     

     

    Hooper gave an Awesome performance and that is why people get frustrated by him playing within himself in games, he has so much to give when he is really up for it and his finishing is really top drawer on the deck. He messed up the headed goal though and will be more experienced the next time just like Efe.

     

     

    The whole team performed well and when they needed to dig deep they done that and turned it around. I thought Neil’ds substitutions were excellent once again and he really is revelling going toe to toe with other European managers, I get the feeling Neil watches football constantly. ;)

     

     

    As I said earlier, their first goal was a cracker but Celtic’s were worthy of the Champions League and the Bhoys will take great confidence from the game.

     

     

    Big Sammi – World Class

     

     

    Neil Lennon – World Class

     

     

    The day Celtic got the 2-2 draw at Ibrox in the Cup when we dominated them with 10 men was the day I knew we were going to be a force in Europe once again, I even commented about it being a European type performance at that time. Ki may be away now and he was definitely the top player that day but we embarressed them that day and we are now seeing that confidence being taken into Europe.

     

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGW3bI92EAI&feature=related

     

     

    I

  24. petec on

    And it is Brilliant news about big Fraser getting called up. The big man certainly deserves it and will cement his place now as number 2 (he is miles better than Ruddy). Respect to Hodgson also for not being an arrogant English manager.

  26. Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire on

    petec,

     

    “Big Sammi – World Class”

     

    careful now :o)

  27. A Ceiler Gonof Rust on

    Thank heavens for bitter huns…………………………

     

     

     

    I watched the game on Tuesday in a bar in Spain with young Celier, an English barman, a bitter bitter sevco fan and his equally embittered hun wife. He grimaced when hooper banged in the first and cheered when the Muscovite’s equalised. Dah de dahhh….and so it went.

     

     

    Oh how unhappy this man was when he left the bar within ten seconds of the final whistle blowing, with myself and young ceiler giving him a right good send off ala, GTF boooo ya bassa :-) Happy days.

     

     

    I just hope his poor hun bint didn’t get both her eyes blackened for our magnificent win and my enjoyment of his particular pain. He certainly kicked her fat ass out the door as though she was about to become his next peice of boxing entertainment for the night.

     

     

    Never trust a sevco. The pain in Spain lies mainly on the face and ribs of the battered wife of the bitter sevco fan who took Celtic’s win badly in the Spanish bar at HDA.

     

     

    God alone knows what would happen should we take something from Barcelona. That stupid hun woman should have her bags packed at the ready and a ticket to somewhere tucked inside her knickers.

  29. Saint Stivs on

    A Ceiler Gonof Rust

     

    23:46 on

     

    4 October, 2012

     

    Thank heavens for bitter huns…………………………

     

     

    was that your own experiences bud, or a copy and paste from somewhere else ?

     

     

    either way, horrible read.

  33. Hamiltontim on

    Stivs

     

     

    Agreed, felt uncomfortable reading that.

     

     

    Anyway, spiderman jammies are calling……

  34. topkat on

    Yes Aiden was special….if you love skill you love a aidy….joy to watch hopefully he returns some day….could watch him all nite long

  35. Richie on

    Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire

     

    23:16 on

     

    4 October, 2012

     

    VogueP…,

     

    I’m ith you in the bhold bhoy, everybody should be given the chance to apologise, he did on the night but there was a bloodlust that demanded a victim.

     

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    Bullplop

     

     

    You came into that diatribe well late and made your judgments without reading back at the whole thing. A good bit was deleted by the time you swanned in.

     

     

    You labelled me a hun which kind of undermined your point, but then you are always right.

     

     

    hunskelper extrordinaire.

  38. A Ceiler Gonof Rust on

    Saint Stivs 23:52 on 4 October, 2012

     

     

     

    A Ceiler Gonof Rust

     

    23:46 on

     

    4 October, 2012

     

    Thank heavens for bitter huns…………………………

     

     

    was that your own experiences bud, or a copy and paste from somewhere else ?

     

     

    either way, horrible read

     

    ……………………………………………………………

     

     

     

    Saint Stivs, I’m afraid that’s how it looked to be panning out from behind my eyes.

     

     

    Obviously I put my own spin on what I thought the outcome would be vis a vi the hun pair. It didn’t look pretty from where I was sat but then, I was cheering and having a good time with young ceiler.

     

     

    I was happy and so was my lad, everything else was down to the bitter hun and how badly he took the win of a team that really shouldn’t have concerned him. He was pretty raging, although I may have helped with that, just a bit. Ooops.

     

     

    I really hope he calmed down and his fat wife slept well, I just doubt that happened.

     

     

     

    Apologies if I’ve upset you in any way.

  40. el flaco on

    Zbyszek

     

    23:56 on

     

    4 October, 2012

     

     

    This is just like the commentary on our domestic games! Hail Hail

  41. Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire on

    richie,

     

    I seen a bloodlust even after he tried to apologise

     

    he must have eaten a raw baby

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