Press stories yesterday that Newcastle United and newco Rangers would not be able to play in Uefa competitions in the same season have caused Mike Ashley considerable angst. While it would appear few things are untenable for Ashley, having one of his clubs bow out of Europe to allow the other to compete is beyond what even he believes to be acceptable.
Newcastle issued a statement early today challenging the reports, which initially appeared in the Daily Telegraph, a newspaper Newcastle have banned from their premises. The Telegraph reported that Uefa confirmed newco Rangers and Newcastle would be prevented from competing in Europe in the same season due to Article 3 of their competition regulations, which relate to multi-ownership.
I contacted Uefa this morning, who confirmed that the report in the Telegraph is incorrect; Uefa have made no such ruling. However, this is because they have received no complaint and no investigation has taken place. Uefa do not trawl looking for administrative breaches and will not investigate such matters unless asked to do so. This issue, it appears, has not gone beyond the Uefa Media Office, and will only be passed to Compliance if a complaint is made.
I reckon Ashley will be comfortable dealing with the SFA, who he can delay and confuse until after newco’s next funding round, which will take place before Christmas, but he doesn’t want Uefa, or the FA in England, on his case, as either could jeopardise plans.
It’s incredible that months after Ashley bought into newco no one has complained to the one body who have the power to dissuade him.
The scenes outside Glasgow Sheriff Court yesterday were predictable. Craig Whyte stands accused by the court of public opinion of liquidating Rangers Football Club. I know some of the bile directed towards him went well beyond what is acceptable, but you can’t liquidate a football club and not expect some push-back at the fringes.
The court of public opinion, isn’t making sense, though. Rangers fans are angry at Craig Whyte, who, apparently, played hardball with the evil HMRC, then was cheated out of his rightful place in the Premier League by a combination of the SFA, the SPL, Celtic, the BBC and bigotry.
If it wasn’t for these dark forces, Craig would have used the [cough]perfectly legitimate business tactic of liquidation, to carry the same club through the crippling debt Sir David Murray had lumbered it with and back to its rightful place in Scottish football.
So if it’s all someone else’s fault, why are they so angry at Craig? Genuine question. He either released the club from Murray’s excesses, and was victimised, or he brazenly killed the club and tried to flog them a newco as though nothing had changed.
The only reason I can think they are angry at Craig is because our old pal Cognitive Dissonance is gnawing away in the background. Whyte’s plan was to liquidate Rangers, present the SPL and SFA with a fait accompli midseason, and have the newco pick up the vacant league position the following week.
This was a horrible plan. Rangers fans’ ‘No to liquidation’ campaign was correct. Everyone else’s opposition to this aberration was also correct.
The fait accompli didn’t work. The rest of Scottish football chose to step off the cliff into the unknown, although many Rangers fans quickly adopted Whyte’s – liquidation means nothing – logic, however they couldn’t bring themselves to accept the man himself.
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saltires en sevilla
Actually I’d scrap mine and go with that team, only swapping Matthews for Ambrose.
Saint Stivs
Yep but we ain’t picking the team ;-)
Marakesh
I highlited Black Maria there on the copy and paste thingie you know where it sais define, and it came up no definitions, so I still don know lol.
Saltires
Forget that :-)
I’d swap McGregor for Forrest also.
HT
Good shout -I sense he might make that change
NegAnon2
10:42 on
30 November, 2014
Saint stivis
too hard to correct the typo ?
or deliberate ?
unionist what you like.
i was going to take a wonder doon the shops, but being catholic , is that a risk too far in nationalist police controlled scotland ?
scrap that as well.
lets go with VVD up front , same as injury time on thursday.
MARRAKESH EXPRESS
TONY DONNELLY
http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-bla1.htm
Saint stivs. Well you know us unionists we are clearly to thick. Perhaps the vote should be taken from us.
Just make sure you don’t blews yourself out there today. It’s a match day and you could be arrested for it if a police officer takes offence.
But if you haven’t done anything wrong you have nothing to fear right?
Just as well we have people in Scotland who make up sensible laws right?
It amazes me that celtic supporters, having been the victims of sectarian abuse, attacks, cheating etc will throw in their lot with their very abusers.
Is it a form of Stockholm Syndrome?
Blews of course should be bless. But you shouldn’t blews yourself out there either. That probably would be offensive!
Last couple of paragraphs….is fat salary admitting it then ???
Nov 30, 2014 09:25 By Scott McDermott
Ally McCoist has taken criticism throughout his career and says his five sons help him forget about the flak coming his way and protect him from online trolls
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By day, Ally McCoist has to deal with a Rangers squad under fire.
At night, he has his very own five-a-side team to look after in the shape of his sons, Alexander, Argyll, Mitchell, Arran and Harris.
In the wake of fierce criticism, the Ibrox boss finds solitude at home.
Sure, McCoist will still mull over decisions he has made or his team’s poor results – like last week’s 2-0 defeat to Hearts – but he admits time spent with his boys is the best way to escape any flak that might come his way.
He refuses point-blank to engage with social media sites such as Facebook and Twitter – and doesn’t pay any attention to radio phone-ins.
But he’s well aware of how difficult it might be for those closest to him to ignore it.
In fact, McCoist joked that his kids are now shielding HIM from the critics, rather than the other way around.
The Gers gaffer knows he’s under pressure but insists he’s used to it and is convinced that even his children have adopted the kind of thick skin he has needed at times during his 22-year association with the club.
After the damaging Championship loss at Tynecastle , his side now face Kilmarnock today in the Scottish Cup where another negative result will prompt another barrage of criticism.
McCoist said: “How do I cope? I’m fine, it’s just the disappointment, more than anything. The disappointment of losing a game is worse than the criticism after it because you know that’s coming. It’s part and parcel of the job here, I accept it.
“Defeats are harder to take. I’ve been involved at this club for well over 20 years and I know as well as anybody that when things go well you get a pat on the back.
“When they don’t, you get criticised. It’s just about getting the balance right and trying to treat the two the same.
“I’m very lucky having five boys and, particularly the younger ones, they tend to have other things on their mind apart from dad’s football.
“That’s a fantastic bonus. Of course, I’ll be sitting watching TV and things will flash through my mind about free-kicks or I’ll think, ‘How did we lose that?’
“I’m no different to any other coach or manager in that respect.
“But I’m fortunate to have five boys because they keep my feet on the ground and make me realise that while work is absolutely important and I do my best at it, there are other things as well.
“Do I have to shield the boys? The younger ones are fine. With the older ones, it’s harder – they’re big boys and there’s all the social media stuff.
“I try but it doesn’t work! They used to tell me when something bad was said about me – but they’ve gone the other way. I think they protect me now!
“I do worry about the older kids because they have feelings too but they’re big enough and sensible enough so I’m lucky. And yes, they have a thick skin. That’s a McCoist trait and it will be on all our epitaphs.”
Rangers are nine points behind Hearts in the Championship table and some of their performances this season simply haven’t been good enough.
McCoist’s players were slated last week by ex-Ibrox hero John Brown but, having gone through tough spells as a Gers player, the gaffer expects them to be man enough to handle it.
He said: “They have to brush it off. There is one thing guaranteed at Rangers – you’ll get criticised.
“So they have to handle it, they have to have broad shoulders. The proof of the pudding is that we went through the whole of last season undefeated in the league – and still got criticism.
“So you’re guaranteed to get it after a 2-0 defeat to Hearts. Nobody likes it but it’s part of football.
“There has been a lot of flak flying about but if you can’t deal with it, you’re in the wrong profession.
“When I got it as a player, it was the best thing to happen to me, in terms of being able to deal with stick. No matter what happens, I don’t think I’ll get it as bad as that.
“I’ve grown up to understand that it goes with the territory at Rangers. It’s still not pleasant – but it’s not about me.
“It’s about the team getting back to the top, that’s the bigger picture. If the players and me have to take a little criticism, or even a big bit, along the way so be it. We can’t take our eyes off the task of getting the club back to where it belongs.”
To do that they will have to hope that Hearts drop points in the Championship and Rangers go on a long winning run.
McCoist believes his team can do it but confessed that, post-administration, the Tynecastle club are in better shape off the pitch than the Ibrox outfit.
He said: “With Hearts, they seem to have come out of admin, had Ann Budge buy it and – bang – the whole thing has moved on. That hasn’t been the case with us. I don’t know where that leaves us.
“But I wouldn’t make comparisons between us and Hearts, that would be unfair. They went into administration and dropped a division. We suffered that and liquidation, went all the way down and lost all our players.
“So there are big differences. I do accept that Hearts seem to be in a very good place at this moment in time and good luck to them.”
Black Maria
This any good
liverpoolcitypolice.co.uk/black-maria/4557400333 Cached
HH
TD
Todd Rundgren from Something,Anything album
Rollin Stone magazine top 200 albums
http://youtu.be/BTtIbgRr1KU
NEGANON
Politics makes strange bedfellows. Those who wanted independence had to side with the parties which pushed it. Including the SNP.
It doesn’t necessarily follow that they support the SNP.
Same way that those who opposed independence had to side with the tories. It doesn’t make them tories.
Liverpoolplate
Liverpool City Police
Black Maria
by peter dellius ret.
Black Maria
The Name Black Maria is a slang term for a Police vehicle used to transport prisoners, this term and also the term “Paddy Wagon” seem to have evolved in America and have traveled worldwide and are found in everyday usage in many countries.
Many reasons for the name Black Maria have been put forward but the generally accepted one is that it is named after Maria Lea, a large and fierce Black Boarding House Keeper.
Two explanations are related for the term Paddy Wagon.
1. Most of the Clients conveyed therein were Irish.
2. Most of the Police officers therein were Irish.
THE Black Maria was also referred to in certain circles “Mothers Heart” the inference being; “There is always room for one more”
Liverpool City Police made use of the “Black Maria”, these in the early days being horse drawn and later mechanized.
I hope that my recollections of some fifty years ago are of some interest as will be remembered also by so many surviving colleagues from when I joined the Force in 1960.
I can remember that in the early 1960’s, whilst posted to Essex Street Bridewell – ‘C’ Division, that a large black van, which was utilised for various purposes, was commonly known by the term ‘Black Maria’ by all the personnel known to me, serving at that time. I can recall that it was used for the conveyance of prisoners from Essex Street to the Main Bridewell. During day/evening time, the same van was used for the purpose of collecting officers from the various dock gates, where they were posted – from the Dingle Lane to the Coburg, and conveying them to Lark Lane Police Station canteen. Then on the return journey providing the same service for the relieving officers.
The ‘black maria’ was usually driven by a female civilian driver, one being Louise, another Hazel, dressed in a dark green uniform. Whilst performing their tasks both ladies were very popular and friendly with all the officers.
The rear of the van contained just two wooden bench type seats along each side. (Not built for comfort).
When officers were on ‘Evening Patrol’ shift, finishing at 2.00am. the van was utilised to drop them off near their respective home. (We couldn’t afford our own transport in those days, Ahhhh!).
BUT, most importantly, the very same van, known to us as the ‘black maria’, was the usual means of transport for assisting officers effecting a street arrest, to convey their prisoner(s) to the Bridewell, unless of course within walking distance. The transport would usually be summoned by means of a public telephone, if one was available and not vandalised. (We were always advised to keep three copper pennies with us for emergencies).
The ‘black maria’s’ as with the large ‘dog van’ at that time, displayed a small green light situated above the windscreen and which was visible from quite some distance during it’s approach, which was a most welcome sight. especially as an officer may be struggling to restrain a prisoner.
I recall actually driving the ‘back maria’ myself on a few occasions, when performing duty with colleagues at Anfield and Goodison Park football grounds.
Times have really changed since those days, which will be recalled by many with their own memories. I just trust that my own recollections are accurate.
Brian Smith Retd.
——————–Gordon——————-
Matthews Ambrose Van Dijk Izaguirre
———————Kayal———————
———-Brown————-Johannsen—-
Forrest ———Guidetti——–Stokes—
BSR
Your choice or Ronny’s?
HT 10.35
Nir Biton ran the show that day.
Hasn’t had a chance under our Marathon man manager.
Johansen couldn’t lace Paul Hartleys boots never mind Joe Ledleys.
And I wasn’t a big fan of Joe.
We will have our work cut out today.
The main change as you pointed out is the manager , not the personnel .
Anyway.
Build a bonfire.
I’m with you on that aswell.
TT
Black Maria?
There is no confirmed etymology of Black Maria.Some claim it stems from a formidable Afro American female bar owner (called Maria)who helped the US plod deal with rowdies.Problem with that is there is evidence of the term being used long before she was born
A nice and sunny 23 degrees,way down south
saint stivs
10:35 on 30 November, 2014
neganon
get my name right just once and i might respond with a put together argument.
I didnt think of myself as a Nationalist, but the more you say it, I like the label more than unionist
might add it to my business cards.
———
As a yes voter, you are, in fact, also a unionist.
The yes campaign clearly laid out they were in favour of currency union and a Monarchy union (Union of the crowns).
Labels can be misleading sometimes……
If you get a chance today or the next game watch for Craig Gordon ‘s ritual with his water bottle and towel. He always goes to the left of the goal as you look into from the pitch places the water bottle with the lid pointing towards the pitch, he then folds the towel length wise and again points it towards the pitch. He also has a strange stance just as the kick of is taken.
You of the Manning brothers who are quarterbacks was asked if he had pre match superstitions/rituals he said he had small thing he did so he was not ‘superstitious ‘ just a ‘littlestitious’
Morning
BSR
Nailed it
HH
On the ridiculous point that build a bonfire is sectarian.
The first time I heard this wee ditty was from Raith Rovers fans at Celtic Park when Efe made his debut in midfield.
The wanted to put Rangers and Celtic on it.
Not sure what sect the RRFC fans were being sectarian about.
Utter twaddle , it’s a good old fashioned fitba chant.
TT
HT
Can you not tell?
These vehicles were usually painted black or a very dark blue. In the United Kingdom, Ireland, New Zealand and the United States, a police wagon was also sometimes called a Black Maria (/məˈraɪ.ə/ mə-REYE-ə). The origin of this term is equally uncertain. The OED lists the first usage as the Boston Evening Traveller from 1847 which mentions them as a new type of wagon. An example from Philadelphia was published in 1852.[5] Brewer’s Dictionary of Phrase and Fable suggests the name came from Maria Lee, a large and fearsome black keeper of a sailors’ boarding house who the police would call on for help with difficult prisoners. The French detective novel Monsieur Lecoq, published in 1868 by Émile Gaboriau, uses the term Black Maria when referring to a police van. The term is still used today in parts of Britain for the vehicle that transports prisoners from gaol to court, appearing in the songs “Guns of Brixton” by The Clash, “Singing for the Lonely” by Robbie Williams, “The Curse of Millhaven” by Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds and “Adios Hermanos” by Paul Simon. Frequently, blackened-windowed buses are also used for the same purpose.[6]
1830s New York – Successful racehorse of the time was Black Maria. Then applied locally for the horse drawn “Paddy Wagon” and in this case Paddy does not have any Irish reference as a derivation of patrol not Patrick.
Its ok guys.
I made it. Went to the shops with my blatantly celticy lisbon lions t-shirt on, and as daring as it is I never got abused, cheated of my change, or lied to during the process.
I passed by a religious building with its worshippers coming out of the street, very blatant they were too, carry beads and hymn books,
not a police man in sight,
what are we paying out taxes for.
i bet some of them go directly from that and on to support their football team.
is there no end to this criminality.
one scotland, many easy arrests missed.
saltires
You reckon?
Would like to see more of Tonev, as well.
BSR On the assumption that Lustig and Mulgrew are not available, I like your team. Even if Charlie was fit, I still wouldn’t be against replacing him with Kayal.
Midfield is always crucial but it will be specially so today, if Charlie is out and Ronny goes with just Brown & Johansen with Kris & wee James, I’ll need a quick visit to a Pharmacy to stock up on valium.
anyways,
before the unionists gang up on me and tell me i am a unionist for eating jaffa cakes sourced in england,
i watched the warm up on thursday intently after some observations from the game before about the routines, intensity , patterns and such, and the fact the drills seemed different.
i did observe us doing the old, set up up and smash them at goal practice for a good 10 munites, me thinking, its shooting practice, they have been told to shoot any time they see the goal.
what do i know.
next, i seen a trainer passing the ball back and forward with broony with unnerving accuracy from good 50 yards away. couldnt make out who it was.
nephew told me its john kennedy.
what a loss, the bhoy could have been a great.
It is St Andrews day , yet all I care about is StPatricks Fenian band.
Cumoanthehoops.
TT
I agree with HT. I cringe at some of our songs but the bonfire song ain’t one of them.
I also agree to that I’d go with the same team as last years Scottish cup but I’d replace him for him and him for him and him for him and….:))
Happy Saint Andrew’s day, the patron saint of an area of North North Britain that used to be a sovereign country called Scotland. Now when will we get a proper patron saint for the proper country of United Kingdom. Perhaps Saint Thomas might be appropriate?
BSR, On further perusal, I might be tempted to go for Leigh instead of Stokes.
i hope the rangers are on tv today, keep them going with the license fee for another , em 3 days.
Good morning CQN’rs
0-3 for the Celts and plenty of controversy, who’s the MIB this afternoon?
I see the FM to be (she awaits the ok from Betty) rules out a Republic of Scotland.
The House of Hanover looks secure in a “Free Scotland”
HH