The Daily Record today report the contents of a document drawn up after a meeting between the SFA, the SPL, the SFL and Sevco suggesting “punishments for Rangers for the Employment Benefit Trust tax dodge used by Sir David Murray’s regime to pay players”.
The document details that Rangers would be stripped of titles and trophies ‘won’ by the club while they fielded illegally registered players, described by the Record as “the harshest ever seen in football”.
While Rangers EBTs had been in the news for close to two years, it was Celtic Quick News who first raised the question of Rangers players being illegally registered in an article on 22 February this year. Clubs are required to note all payments players receive in connection to football with both the SFA and SPL as part of the player registration process. Failure to register EBT payments is completely separate to the legality or otherwise of how the EBT was conducted, and until we raised the issue, there was no question over player registration, and no possibility of league titles being stripped.
Two weeks after Celtic Quick News brought the matter to public attention the SPL appointed solicitors Harper MacLeod to investigate the case. The subsequent report concluded Rangers had a case to answer.
There are a number of alarming aspects to today’s Daily Record report (the newspaper appears to have the main story but don’t notice its relevance):
Sevco should not be involved in any discussion around the guilt of Rangers or any subsequent consequences. Fan power in recent weeks had shown that we are not a Banana Republic. Disciplinary issues are subject to establish procedures. Any attempt to meet with a party acting on behalf of Rangers to agree an outcome with both the investigating body and the appeals body, before an independent inquiry takes place, contaminates all who participate.
Scottish football has independent judicial procedures for dealing with serious breaches of rules. Executives from the SFA and SPL have absolutely no authority to set-aside these procedures, nor are they appropriate people to act instead of the independent procedures.
Stripping Rangers of titles and trophies if they are found guilty of cheating is not a punishment; this simply reflects the legitimate winners of past trophies. When an athlete is found to have cheated to win a medal, his punishment is not the withdrawal of the medal, which is an obvious consequence of being caught, he will also face a sporting or financial penalty, often a ban.
There seems to be no end of attempts to subvert sport in Scottish football. There must be no backroom deals, not even if they bring a barrel load of trophies to Celtic, we cannot be bought-off by bling. Independent disciplinary procedures must take place.
Although Rangers failed to register players EBTs, this matter is separate from what the Record calls “punishments for Rangers for the Employment Benefit Trust tax dodge used by Sir David Murray’s regime to pay players”.
If the First Tier Tribunal (remember that?) rules that Rangers broke tax rules the club could yet face football disciplinary procedures for failing to pay social taxes.
Last month we reported that the SFA was set to remove independent judicial oversight from the game as its existence was getting in the way of their plans for ‘Rangers’. Although the Daily Record seem to be oblivious to the fact, they appear to have found documentary evidence that this is the case.
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Mags,
From what I could gather, there were already several clubs and FAs making noises about it.
This is good as it means the SFA are most likely to crumble soon as UEFA will NOT be able to turn a blind a eye to it when it goes legal.
It’s all in the pipeline.
Of course, it’s nowt to do with rules and regulations in world football, or British tax law, it’s the UFH behind all this and future punishments.
Little known fact: Ayr Utd won the League Cup 2001-02…..
……and who scored the goals?
Final [Mar 17]
Rangers 4-0 Ayr United
Tore Andre Flo 44, Barry Ferguson 49pen, Claudio Caniggia 75, 90
EBT’s the lotta them!
This is just a snapshot of the damage the huns have done to Scottish football!
It’s literally immeasurable in every way.
Except with reference to themselves. Every cloud has a silver lining.
Scotland mst never ignore or forget that this is at the heart and soul of the scum who ‘follow follow’ the most reprehensible (dead) club on the planet and this is what needs chasing out of society before it gets too late.
nazi ragers :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cui6NbO9kPw&feature=youtube_gdata_player
miki67
Never seen that video before – thought I was up to date on most of them.
Was only disapointed that the song at the end didn’t complete :)
I didn’t win many winners medals at any level of the game but I won a few losers medals (runners up medals), never kept a single one of them. Imagine though of a bent and crocked ol’hun trying to impress a grandchild by trying to pass on a ‘cheaters’ medal as a symbol of glory.
The stigma producing a rancid bile of shame that would rot his innards and melt his very flesh; if he had but only an ounce of dignity and decency about him.
And always worthwhile placing a bit of relative context on these things:
The music, from a Polish composer Górecki, and the video filmed in Auschwitz, nr Krakow:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miLV0o4AhE4
Was there last year with a friend. Will never forget it. Every single person that goes there holds back the tears, but they inevitably break through at some point.
Horrific stuff. But of course the beauty of humanity is more visible when compared with the ugly. I’m too simplistic to comment any more on this. Just listen, and appreciate where this was filmed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miLV0o4AhE4
To paraphrase an old song :
” Fly,ragers,fly
Into the heart
Of a dark black sun.”
kitalba
You hit on a major point imo.
The inability of hunnery to comprehend the idea of sportsmanship.
When I was about 7 or so, I came across accounts of what the nazis did. I was so totally horrified at man’s inhumanity to man, that it took my lovely dad the better part of two hours to make some kind of sense about it all to me. That initial discovery made me a lifelong anti-fascist,and I am extremely gratified that there is that anti-fascism in abundance in the Celtic F.C Community.
For some things,the old maxim holds true in perpetuity :
“Never forgive. Never forget.”
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Just been catching Up on the Blog as l have Not been on Much lately..
I See it’s that Time of Year when Ole SydneyTims RPCS Flares Up..Seems to Coincide with Someone leaving the Window Open..:O)
Also l see the Question about Celtic players with the Last letter O in there Name..Talking of SydneyTim..
Jeezo..WILLO..
Summa
I know that man,of all the animals,is the cruellest;and worst of all to his own.
But it was the sheer blueprinted,finely detailed,industrial scale of their fendish cruelty and blackness of soul that set the nazis apart in the course of history.
And for ANYONE to glorify them is tantamount to aiding and abetting that sickness of the soul and must be confronted in the strongest possible terms.
For Scotland’s msm to turn a blind eye to this glorification by rfc ‘supporters’ makes them equally guilty and an integral component of ‘Scotland’s Shame’.
miki67
Lovin your posts, near poetic in their prose. Intelligent stuff. Keep it up :))
Restrained rants….priceless :))
Same for Wonkyradar if yer about !!
Keep ventin that anger I say…we have plenty good cause !!
Anyway, in the words of a wee group of middle class Londoners who were able to identify and deal with this better than I could ever hope to:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xySFquUkfyY
(Astonishing that in spite of history and art, hunnery still exists in all its sublime ignorance! )
From the point of view of an atheist…
Religion had 3000 yrs – that we know of – to prove its faults.
Secularism has had 50 yrs and has proven to be more sinister.
Discuss. 5000 words. Submit to David Cameron well after 27th July 2012 or face harsh penalties.
Peter Lawell walks in on a Saturday night shindig at the local goat slaughering joint.
Ogilvie doesn’t take to this to well, taken by surprise while he was rallying the troops.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccqdEhytKOk
MSM keep reporting that RFC went into demise with debts of UP TO 134million.
If/when they are stripped of their ill-gotten gains, how many millions more are they actually in debt if asked to return all their winnings?
I would guess it is many times more than the 134 million figure.
If MIH shareholders demanded back their money, used to fund DM’s pet project how many millions more would that add?
Instead of pouring money into the Scottish economy, this ‘corpus delicti’ have done nothing other than use other peoples money for 20 years to stoke the fires of hate endemic to Scottish society.
It will take a pretty good accounting firm to be able to uncover the full scale of their debts.
Miki67…2-36
Fantastic post from RTC
Mea Culpa
I struggle to think of any good that RFC(il) have ever done
Cheated, swindled ,exhibited and promulgated sectarianism and bigotry ….
Their sense of entitlement and self appointed supremacy has eaten them ….consumed by their own hubris ….
Lady karma has sharp teeth
PF AYR
Glad you’re on- HAMILTON TIM has just returned from abroad and is seemingly a bit concerned about roaming charges.
Now I know he shouldn’t have been singing that song,but can you set his mind at rest by confirming it is only considered an offence in Scotland?
Thanks muchly….
Bobby Murdoch
Nice one :-))
Summa good to see you back on the night shift . missing your witty and insightful commentary . Even good to see Sydney back more often , he has been quiet, so it has been left to Kitalba to keep the antipodean flame burning with occasional sharp statements from MacJay so anyone nice to see you back 001 always enjoy your contributions. Hail Hail
Does anyone know what has happened with The Big Tax Case?
BobbyMurdoch are you oan the nighshift. Who do you know in Borrheid ? You mentioned it a few days ago
Here’s one for SOUTH OF TUNIS from The Telegraph.
Worrying times in Sicily by the sounds of it.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financialcrisis/9410275/Monti-plans-Greek-style-takeover-of-Sicily-to-avert-default.html
Morning Celts, whits the Craic?
Have we signed a CH and striker yet?
I am NL in NZ Tauranga 0619
Hi,bud.
Just fnished-bit of a bummer as I had to tow in one of our vans.
Scary stuff behind a towbar in the dark,I can tell ye!
I’m a Kilwinning lad myself,but known various Barrheaders over the years.
Canny remember the names-without heavy prompting!-due to most of the time there being spent,well,doing what I do in Kilwinning and everywhere else,tbh.
As an aside,wheNn my Dad and I went into The Flying Horse during THE CENTENARY SEASON with my hoops-adorned kid sister,she was told NAE COLOURS!
My Dad whipped off his t-shirt,told her to put it on,and proceeded to piss everyone off by quaffing a few beers while proudly displaying his moobs!
Ah,happy days…….
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I am NL in NZ Tauranga ..
Thanks for the Kind Words..Great to be Back..Tho l have Just Opened 3 Months of Letters Bills..With one from My Beloved Lawyers..He He..
PS..5 Kiwis staying with me @ the Mo..4 Ghirls 1 Bhoy Ha..
Sammi to have His best Season so far this Year..Helping us Qualify for CL Group Stages then go from Strength to Strength..Watch him a Hooper click this Year..He was Awesome (In a Assisting Role anyway) on the Last game of the Season..
KTF..
001Bhoy
Just checked out the Sun. Two of the headlines were about Neil Lennon and stripping the titles. our man is in the cross wires again. Can you see why the board declined to get involved as the main player. Moving the focus to Scottish football is a good move and we should support every effort to keep the focus on level playing fields, rules being applicable to all football clubs and keep it away from the pride and personality cults. Keep that for the football park and that is a common ground for every football fan. I still remember my hero’s from arthurlie when I was a pre teen. It’s not finished. Hail Hail
Take back our Titles.
Reminds me of the fella whom once ran an army surplus store in the Smithfield shopping area of Belfast.
Every year,in the run up to the 12th of July he used to make a killing,selling old war medals to the Orangemen.They would then pin the medals to their sashes and parade about like heroes.He couldn’t hold out to them.
Phoney huns.
Long-time lurker, first time poster! Many thanks to Paul67 for sorting out the problem with my password! Greetings to all at CQN and the worldwide Celtic family wherever you may be, all the way from a sunny secret location in Northern Italy where ice cream and jelly is in plentiful supply!
HH!!
Tallybhoy welcome to the party and HH
TALLYBHOY
Fraternal greetings.
Enjoy the site,and be prepared to be accused of allsorts!
Welcome Tallybhoy
Are you a hun. normal greeting. Have only travelled through northern Italy , Florence , Venice and all that but hope to be able to travel that area on day if I can pay my tax and get outa debt. Hail Hail
Just read an interesting comment on Sevco Media Forum on John Brown:
“There will be a tims bus with his name on it shortly if he is not careful”
What a great idea! John Brown CSC. Mind you by the end of this we’ll have a fleet of buses with all the protaganists. I’m trying hard to think of one Sevco person who’s come out of this saga in a positive way.
Paul Baxendale-Walker CSC