No illegal registration punishment, judicial independence scrapped

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The Daily Record today report the contents of a document drawn up after a meeting between the SFA, the SPL, the SFL and Sevco suggesting “punishments for Rangers for the Employment Benefit Trust tax dodge used by Sir David Murray’s regime to pay players”.

The document details that Rangers would be stripped of titles and trophies ‘won’ by the club while they fielded illegally registered players, described by the Record as “the harshest ever seen in football”.

While Rangers EBTs had been in the news for close to two years, it was Celtic Quick News who first raised the question of Rangers players being illegally registered in an article on 22 February this year.  Clubs are required to note all payments players receive in connection to football with both the SFA and SPL as part of the player registration process.  Failure to register EBT payments is completely separate to the legality or otherwise of how the EBT was conducted, and until we raised the issue, there was no question over player registration, and no possibility of league titles being stripped.

Two weeks after Celtic Quick News brought the matter to public attention the SPL appointed solicitors Harper MacLeod to investigate the case.  The subsequent report concluded Rangers had a case to answer.

There are a number of alarming aspects to today’s Daily Record report (the newspaper appears to have the main story but don’t notice its relevance):

Sevco should not be involved in any discussion around the guilt of Rangers or any subsequent consequences.  Fan  power in recent weeks had shown that we are not a Banana Republic.  Disciplinary issues are subject to establish procedures.  Any attempt to meet with a party acting on behalf of Rangers to agree an outcome with both the investigating body and the appeals body, before an independent inquiry takes place, contaminates all who participate.

Scottish football has independent judicial procedures for dealing with serious breaches of rules.  Executives from the SFA and SPL have absolutely no authority to set-aside these procedures, nor are they appropriate people to act instead of the independent procedures.

Stripping Rangers of titles and trophies if they are found guilty of cheating is not a punishment; this simply reflects the legitimate winners of past trophies.  When an athlete is found to have cheated to win a medal, his punishment is not the withdrawal of the medal, which is an obvious consequence of being caught, he will also face a sporting or financial penalty, often a ban.

There seems to be no end of attempts to subvert sport in Scottish football.  There must be no backroom deals, not even if they bring a barrel load of trophies to Celtic, we cannot be bought-off by bling.  Independent disciplinary procedures must take place.

Although Rangers failed to register players EBTs, this matter is separate from what the Record calls “punishments for Rangers for the Employment Benefit Trust tax dodge used by Sir David Murray’s regime to pay players”.

If the First Tier Tribunal (remember that?) rules that Rangers broke tax rules the club could yet face football disciplinary procedures for failing to pay social taxes.

Last month we reported that the SFA was set to remove independent judicial oversight from the game as its existence was getting in the way of their plans for ‘Rangers’.  Although the Daily Record seem to be oblivious to the fact, they appear to have found documentary evidence that this is the case.

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  1. I am out of touch with the performances of the Celtic youth squads ( used to watch them on Celtic TV). With a bit of deadwood being shipped out do CQN folk think that a few more youngsters will come through this season? Neil seems preared to play them.

  2. A would play a 3 4 1 2

     

    Forster

     

    Wanyama rogne mulgrew

     

    Forrest brown kayal izzy

     

    Commons

     

    Hopper. Sammy

     

     

    But ad like another centre back to replace victor so he could move into midfield and big strong centre forward ideally mark janko from Porto To replace sammy,and a think Ibraham will fit in2 the commons role through time !

  3. Yorkbhoy,

     

    As we are expected to win the league by 30-40 points i fully expect to play the youngsters and give them a chance, if we cant do it now, when can we….

     

     

    The development squad/youth team play a Lennoxtown, I believe, why can we not have them play with a ko 2 hours before Celtics home games with free admission to ticket holders. It would give the guys the experience of the crowds and give the fans even more value for money, the only downside i can see is the extended working hours of the security side’s wages.

     

     

    HH

  4. South Of Tunis on

    Ten Men Won The League @ 11 04 .

     

     

    Jovetic ?

     

     

    Latest news is that it is still possible he will sign for Juve but Chelsea are said to have offered him and Fiorentina more . Fiorentina have stated that he can go for @ 25 million

     

     

    Fabulous player

  5. South Of Tunis@11:19

     

     

    Cheers for that. I would be surprised if Chelsea are still in the market for Jovetic after signing Hazard + Oscar

     

     

    With regards to Platini.

     

     

    Michel Platini, UEFA president and self-proclaimed honest broker, voted for Qatar to host the World Cup in 2022, in temperatures of approximately 50 degrees. He then proposed destroying football’s calendar for around six years to accommodate this rogue decision, by moving the tournament to mid-winter. The presumption has always been that Platini, a patriotic Frenchman, had been influenced by his government due to France’s many economic links with Qatar. Development in Qatar is good for business in France and companies such as EDF, Technip and Areva CEPFi have all benefited from lucrative Qatari contracts of late.

     

    As has another ambitious Frenchman. He is 33, a lawyer and his name is Laurent Platini. Michel’s son has landed a job with Qatari Sports Investments, who sponsor Barcelona’s shirts and have a majority interest in Paris Saint-Germain.

  6. On the subject of BBC alba and Sevco games, liked this quote on a message board

     

     

    do you think there will be sub titles for newco fans to identify their players

  7. Morning all! Just about to pick up my `offishial’ CQN badge from Bundoran Bhoy at lunchtime.

     

    ANyone know his tipple?

     

    HH

  8. See……they even want to steal and besmirch our justified paranoia and twist it to their own demented ends……”for every fear you had we’ll have bigger ones.” Not content with trying to salvage their utter car-crash of a ‘club’ and it’s badically banal fall from the heights of fantasy,they feel they have to make it all the fault of big bad Timmy Wolf ans The Cabal from Rome.

     

    How very dare they.

     

    All those years of mibbery……all thise years of wondering how the hell they were financing these dream-team signings…….agape as they gave the nazi salute on a regular basis and went unchallenged by the msm,and the police.

     

    All those years of being told we were ‘delusional’,’paranoid’,’jealous’.

     

    And now they will do anything to outdo us on that front…..even if they have to write a bouncy bouncy cheque for Dan Brown ( he must be a secret relation of Ra Bommur’s….he must be…I know it…I know it) to script the conspiracy for them.

     

    I say no to them. No. No stripping us of our well-founded suspicions.

     

    Ours were real……theirs are fake….like everything associated with them.

     

    Stupid stupid huns.

     

    HH!

  9. sanna – :-) You saying he’s not refined and doesn’t like to sample fine single malts?

  10. Ryan I agree with the youngsters playing early. They could open up part of the stadium. The increased costs could be offset by Celtic shop and refreshment purchases.

  11. Many thanks to the CQNers who have given me a warm welcome on to the site! Not long back from the dentist! Jeez, Italian dentists should wear masks! Well they do, but I’m talking about Dick Turpin type ones! Just as well mine is a family friend!

     

     

    HH!!

  12. Yorkbhoy,

     

    I was at the NextGen games last season, some cracking football played. Would make a real effort to get to the first team game early should the young bucks be showing off….

  13. Don’t know if this has been posted before, but here goes anyhowz:

     

     

    Celtic will face one team from the winners of the ties Ulisses (Armenia) v FC Sheriff (Moldova), Molde FK (Norway) v Ventspils (Latvia), HJK Helsinki (Finland) v KR (Iceland), AEL Limassol (Cyprus) v Linfield (Northern Ireland) or Neftci PFK (Azerbaijan) v FC Zestafoni (Georgia).

     

     

    The ten teams played their first second qualifying round ties over the last two nights, with second leg games to be played on July 24/25.

     

     

    Let’s hope it’s no Molde. A decent wee team well into their season.

  14. Celtic will face one team from the winners of the ties Ulisses (Armenia) v FC Sheriff (Moldova), Molde FK (Norway) v Ventspils (Latvia), HJK Helsinki (Finland) v KR (Iceland), AEL Limassol (Cyprus) v Linfield (Northern Ireland) or Neftci PFK (Azerbaijan) v FC Zestafoni (Georgia).

     

     

    Please please let it be Linfield so we can stick 10 past the bigots.

  15. A message for the completely insane orc hun numpties (that’ll be the entire horde of them,then).

     

    “The mind is a house full of empty rooms. Be careful how you furnish it.”

     

    *~*

  16. Estadio Nacional on

    oglach 11:47

     

     

    linfield were pumped 3-0 in the first leg last night. Cant see them surviving.

     

     

     

    EN

  17. Lennybhoy – The Vale beside Queen Street. Worryingly he said that he’d meet me outside!

  18. I’ve got so much to do today,yet here I sit…….

     

    …CQN…..it’s like crack.

     

    Or do I mean ‘craic’……..

     

    I’ll get ma coat…..no,really….gotta go and keep my actual life running.

     

    HH!

     

    : > ))

  19. On the basis that we should be careful what we wish for, I stopped pinning any hopes on any possible opponent in any competition after desperately hoping for a team from Slovakia to overcome one from Kazakhstan in the qualifiers in 2006 because Kazakhstan is far away.

  20. Cultsbhoy from earlier

     

    Did you forget about Joe Ledley or do you not rate him?

     

     

    I find it almost impossible to pick our best team. For me , the impossible not to play players are:

     

    Forster,Mulgrew,Izaguirre,Brown,Wanyama and Hooper. Very close to that `impossible` category comes Forrest. Next comes those who are very good but whose selection is determined by Neil`s choice of formation. These include Matthews, Commons, Ledley,Kayal,Ki, Rogne and Samaras.So , fourteen players (and I have not even included Stokes who has an excellent eye for goal and McCourt who is special but….well, just but) to chose from ( and I am sure I have missed others out ) who can all do a job. For the SPL Home games, I would start with:

     

    Forster

     

    Matthews Mulgrew,Izaguirre

     

    Forrest,Brown,Wanyama,Commons,Ledley

     

    Samaras

     

    Hooper

     

     

    Subs: Kayal (to replace Wanyama who should be protected);McCourt ( for Forrest for same reason) Stokes (for Hooper (same again),Ki (for Brown) and Zaluska.

     

    I know we are only allowed three subs;the way any game is going will be the deciding factor on who stays on.

  21. Look on the bright side Moisty, since you can only sign 17year olds (or younger) the celebration drinks after winning a game will be pretty cheap. KIA ORA all round guys?

  22. Estadio Nacional on

    midfield maestro 11:57

     

     

    Daft wee hun teams never get beat, they always get pumped…

     

     

     

    EN

  23. AoW

     

     

    Only known Bundoran to drink Guinness.

     

     

    He’d also appreciate some sun screen for his dome :-))

  24. The bould bhoys..... Tá ár lá anois on

    The Magnificent Glasgow Celtic will face one team from the winners of the ties Ulisses (Armenia) v FC Sheriff (Moldova), Molde FK (Norway) v Ventspils (Latvia), HJK Helsinki (Finland) v KR (Iceland), AEL Limassol (Cyprus) v Linfield (Northern Ireland) or Neftci PFK (Azerbaijan) v FC Zestafoni (Georgia).

  25. This masquerade that The New Rangers are the same as the Old Rangers…”The Company is separate from the club”…is creating a very schizoid condition amongst der hun hordes. Its very ugly. Uglier than usual to be sure. The schizoid hun condition is now pathological.

     

    The longtudinal fissure separates the human brain into two distinct hemispheres connected by the corpus callosum. This is called Lateralization of Brain function ( Now I know this is a nebulous concept when associated with der hun)…but its as though that corpus callosum part that connects the cerebral ( I know, I know) hemispheres was somehow surgically removed over on HunMedia…two incompatible contradictory opposites that will never come in contact with each other but present in the one brain…but what happens if they ever did somehow “accidentally” come in contact with each other…a sequel to Scanners where ugly huns in XXXL Sevco tops have their heads spontaneously combust?

  26. Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire on

    I shot the sherriff has always been a favorite of mie