Peter Lawwell’s comments on Friday that Celtic receive no support from Glasgow City or Scottish Government circles reflects years of plans being frustrated by incoherent rejections.
Were it not for the Commonwealth Games being hosted in the city in 2014, planning permission to redevelop the area to the front of Celtic Park would continue to be rejected. The reality that the Queen would drive past a derelict former school, with vegetation growing from every nook, was sufficient motivation for the Council to allow Celtic to remove the building and landscape the area. You have Her Mag. to thank for the Celtic Way.
Celtic would like a fanzone. Somewhere you can congregate before a match, where you might even be able to visit a toilet, but the Council doesn’t want it. Planning permission is sought for the hotel. On the face of it, this is a fantastic initiative for a long-deprived area of the city, the Council should be doing their best to encourage Celtic into spending the money, not looking disinterested.
Then we have the proposed no parking zone, which would see it illegal for you to park within one mile of Celtic Park on match days. Parking would start at the one mile limit, but would surely extend a couple of miles beyond this before we are all accommodated. Public transport to and from the area is vastly under served, there simply isn’t the capacity to cope with many football fans. Your choice will be to walk miles to and from the game, or stop going.
The likely change of administration at the Council, from Labour to SNP isn’t necessarily going to help, either. A councillor from the latter camp raised concerns when Celtic asked for permission to build the Superstore, citing that it could damage trade going to local supermarkets. This is the environment we have to operate in!
The Scottish Government set their faces to stone on the subject of Celtic when Alex Salmond decided to get involved in Scottish football in 2011, leaving us with the ludicrous Offensive Behaviour’ Act.
The Scottish Parliament voted to repeal this act last year, after countless football fans, and Celtic, campaigned on the issue. However, the will of the Scottish Parliament isn’t always respected by the Scottish Government, who ignored the vote, before setting their 2017 agenda on inducing moral outrage when the will of the Scottish Parliament is ignored.
The irony should be disappointing, but it’s not even surprising. Scammers, one and all.
A reminder that this year’s CQN Open Golf takes place at our usual Aberdour venue on Friday 28 July. Walk with Shay and the Celtic FC Foundation are our primary beneficiaries. Costs are £80 for the whole day (including golf) and £45 for evening-only guests. Applications to cqnopen@gmail.com .
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Dbhoy:
SPIN is the word
Jamabhoy
Yes, at an extra cost over and above the price of your season ticket. Great eh, this capitalism lark.
MWD
timbhoy3 on 10th April 2017 2:19 pm
Maybe it’s time Celtic Football Club ,moved away,from the east end of Glasgow, maybe South Lanarkshire,etc build a new Stadium,with the Hotel, Superstore, Musuem,etc,and with the the upgrading of the M8,and the M 74
You are Michael Kelly, and i claim my £5 cyber token.
Seven of us all pensioners all sat in the pub yesterday talking about the ticket price increase and no one seemed bothered or surprised as it was to be expected, there a few in here stirring it, but that’s to be expected, everyone has an opinion, my ticket went up £30 that’s 65p a week shocking eh?
Baba71- condolences to you all HH
A stor ma chroi
“Corporate Society” “authentic refugees
Are you a hun?
:-)
Corporate society is doing fine.austerity ensures regular transfer from poor/weak/needy/displaced/socially& mentally excluded/homeless and every other facet of them
Authentic refugee
What? One not affected by western foreign policy? lol youll be smiling and talkin of processing centres next,…just like the Oz govt at Nauru,reminds me of Dachau
Who is any Celt to comment on the authenticity of another human being without questioning our part in the history of that man/woman or childs
need to ask for help.
Hail hail
Neil Lennon playing in Legends Match
Emotional Sergio Garcia scenes are compared to the Sevco draw at Parkers.
TIMBHOY3 on 10TH APRIL 2017 2:19 PM
Maybe it’s time Celtic Football Club ,moved away,from the east end of Glasgow,
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I hope you are either drunk or stirring it!
A ridiculous suggestion IMHO!
Why would Celtic move away from its roots? South Lanarkshire? FFS – sober up mhan!
KTF
SPIN ?
An Australian psychologist says the conditions he witnessed at the Manus Island and Nauru offshore detention centres are the most demoralising he has ever seen in his 43-year career.
Key points:
Mr Stevenson visited Manus, Nauru detention centres on 16 occasions during 2014/15
Says Peter Dutton “has no idea what it’s like” despite visit to Nauru
“$5 billion per year going into offshore detention,” he says
Psychologist and traumatologist Paul Stevenson has treated field trauma for 25 years — including in the aftermath of the Bali bombings and the Boxing Day tsunami — and visited the Manus Island and Nauru offshore detention centres on 16 occasions, for two to three weeks at a time, between 2014 and 2015.
http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2016-06-20/psychologist-paul-stevenson-says-nauru-conditions-demoralising/7527788
AN TEARMANN:
Is a ‘refugee’ who has paid $10,000 for a boat trip and turns up for processing wearing a ROLEX an ‘authentic refugee’. Mate i am all for accepting the underprivileged and i will, and I do, help where I can. But SPIVS migrating at the expense of REAL needy folk, well mate I really don’t rush to the bar to buy those kind a welcome drink.
Don’t forger, thought you may not know, for every SPIV that gets in, a real needy person gets pushed further back in the queue. Do you think that is fair and just?
Who would win in a fight between a world class manager and a world class breakfast?
AN TEARMANN
I’m for the refugee who doesn’t have the bus fare. Which sort of refugee are you for?
57,679 saw Celtic beat Kilmarnock 3 -1.
The follow up should make interesting reading.
https://philmacgiollabhain.ie/2017/04/10/an-astonishing-subculture/
Tony Donnelly
How ye?
Tony the pricing of the ticket is important
I think Celtic could be more inventive
A few wee suggestions
Pay daily
Weekly
Monthly
Interest free finance
Tony as with all increases its how they are managed.
HH
TD67
Yip. There it is, the I’m alright Jack attitude I referred to.
MWD
Sleekit scammers…………at it, everywhere………
We know thum by thur noise (ups).
HHH.
Bournesouprecipe
Seen the report you wrote on Joe Beltrami.he was a big tim.
In the 80’s I ended up back in his house in Bothwell after being at a party with friends of friends of his son.the snooker room had pics of our halcyon days, flights to russia, all the big games i spent the night walkin round lookin at them all.
Great memory
HH
AN TEARMANN on 10TH APRIL 2017 2:56 PM
Yeh, how about they put the hospitality packages up instead. (They may have already, don’t know)
A STOR MHA CHROI
Doing their bit ?
Please take your own advice, read more.
Francois Crepeau, the UN special rapporteur on migrant human rights, has just finished an 18-day stint examining Australia’s immigration laws.
He said in Canberra on Friday that conditions on Nauru were “cruel, inhuman and degrading”.
https://www.google.com.au/amp/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/38022204
DBHOY:
How does that compare with ‘tent city’ Calais?
MWD:
” Why do they feel the need to extract another £2.5 to £3 million on top of what Brendan and the team have brought them via CL qualifaction and all the extra monies already extracted from gate receipts, sponsorship.”
Simple answer? I don`t know but I am willing to accept there may well be a good reason.
I don`t think TD was adopting an `I`m alright jack. ` attitude. He was , I believe, pointing out that this increase does not cause a problem to anyone he knows. That is the same for me.
I believe every pensioner can afford a ST if that is a priority over, say,a cigarette or a pint. Only a few can afford everything they would like .The rest of us prioritise. For me, it is a matter of degree.
It is to your credit that you are concerned about others but not agreeing with you on this matter does not make others self-centered.
JJ
AN TEARMANN
I vaguely recall seeing the great man at Parkers, one of his sons is a QC
‘Send for Beltrami’ CSC
To be fair, Pedro NEEDS that heated driveway for his villa in Spain.
Just kidding, would need to go back to the accounts to figure out what potential shortfall could arise. Maybe Brendan is getting paid more and wants a bigger budget.
Sharing is another option. It’s good to share. :-)
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A Stor Mha Chroion 10th April 2017 2:54 pm
AN TEARMANN
I’m for the refugee who doesn’t have the bus fare. Which sort of refugee are you for?
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I’m For The Humble Sort Of Refugee,
Who Dreams Of Living in Blantyre…
(Or Ru’Glen….) ;-)
https://capx.co/our-treatment-of-asylum-seekers-isnt-a-scandal-its-sensible/?_e_pi_=7%2CPAGE_ID10%2C1796374608
CheapAsChipsCSC
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BOURNESOUPRECIPE:
I remember having him as my lawyer and i went to jail for something I did not do. He liked his tie.
A STOR MHA CHROI
Obfuscation- well known tactic on here, sure sign your argument is as firm as my first tolle :)
Let’s stick with Australia shall we?
You said their doing their bit,back it up
A STOR MHA CHROI on 10TH APRIL 2017 2:22 PM
Brendon O’Connell
An TEARMANN
It doesent affect me, my £10:00 I put away every week more than covers my ST, it’s how you use your own money, and discipline yourself, it was expected foe the price increases let’s not be silly , if you didn’t know it was coming then I’m afraid your in La la land, if it’s a case of I’m alright jack then fine , that’s because I govern my finances to suit my means and way of life, Iv gave up a few things so that I can buy my season ticket, and that’s my business, if I couldent afford it then I can’t get one, that’s life, I’m alright jack with that to, but don’t pull the pensioners card on my behalf I get along doing my own thing and telling no one in here what to do, but if someone wants to grab the moral high ground on the issue to suit an agenda then go right ahead, but your not talking for me or any pensioner Iv met.
Well,i did not know that next seasons CL money was a certainty.You learn something on here everyday.
MWD @ 14.24hrs.
I agree with the sentiments of your post. It was a good post with views that many will share. I sincerely hope we are not pricing ordinary supporters out.
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How much is enough to watch domestic Scottish football? A very good question. I don’t know the answer, but I would suggest that we are close to maximum pricing for the ordinary fan.
I have a dilemma however. I realise that to get the best we have to pay the going rate. We reminiscence about our past achievments and we are hopeful and now confident of future glory.
But unfortunately in modern day football it all comes at a price. But who pays the price, ? Who can afford to pay the price. ? Who has the broadest shoulders ?
Not the ordinary fan, i would suggest.
I do not wish to see Paradise populated by only those on higher earnings who can afford numerous price increases; Those who have above average disposible incomes.
I am also uneasy about encouraging our fans to go into debt with a finance company to watch our team.I would prefer Celtic themselves to offer very low interest or ideally zero percent interest.
For the average family there is only so much money that can be responsibly allocated to football. Our custodians must and will realise that. Every possible source of income must be optimised prior to increasing the burden of average and below average earners ( Never mind the poorest who must never be forgotten about ). I do not think our club have done that.
Yes my friends we may still play to full houses despite this and future increases, but our famed Parkhead atmosphere could suffer, and we will increasingly join the Prawn Sandwich brigade.
For these reasons I think MWD has hit the nail right on the head.
HH.
A STOR MHA CHROI
Ha – were you one of the dozens he saved from the gallows pre 1965?
Anecdotes;
Beltrami was a lifelong Celtic fan and maintained close relations with players and club for more than 50 years. He was in manager Jock Stein’s Lisbon hotel room in 1967, celebrating having won the European Cup, when the by-then engraved trophy was delivered to the hotel room in a tied-up box which Beltrami opened: “I was the only one with a pen-knife.”
@ the interweb
p.s. the famous quote was actually ” Get me Beltrami ”
p.p.s. born in Rutherglen ( of course )
DBHOY:
I could back it up all night long WITH COPY AND PASTES diametrical to the Rwanda/Iran/North Korea references of yours earlier… but I won’t.
I would encourage you to read more, much, much more, because you are selling your inquisitive mind short… and if it is within your means… travel more.
Speak to people. Look then in the eye. Share their hunger. Share their pain.
BOURNESOUPRECIPE:
Mid 70’s
Glasgow Sheriff.
He was obsessed with his tie.
I’d boot his baws if I met him today.
how dare celtic try to help a community
JJ
How much in your opinion is enough? Is there a limit.
£30 or £50 increase a season or every other season on the face of it is not a major increase. But accumulating that over a period will impact others.
with success on the park and qualification to the riches of the CL there is no need for this increase, especially at this time. Cloaking it with good news shows the PLC up for what it is. In the last few seasons when there was season book price freezes these announcements were trumpeted without the need for cloaking. It was good news and welcome news. The fact they felt the need to cloak these announcements behind great news is why I called them dispicable human beings.
I stand by that as that is my opinion of them as individuals.
Now if they were to come out and let us know why there was a need for this increase and ask us still to support them due to the need for this increase without cloaking it then I would have more understanding of their need to increase as would everyone. I don’t believe there is a need to increase at this time in the face of record turnover and if there was then an explanation would be welcome.
I do think and opinion that it is selfish to consider only your own circumstance and excuse the increase that will likely impact some. But that’s society for you today. I’m alright Jack.
I do agree that if you can afford to give a up a pint or two a week to pay for your book then that is fair enough and a good life choice also. But what if you have to give up a pint of milk or a loaf of bread? Is that ok?
If it forces you to give up smoking to attend then that’s even better IMO.
I doubt however that positive life choices are behind the PLC’s decision that without explanation comes across as unadulterated greed.
MWd