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Pictures of Tom Rogic back at training are very welcome but he will surely be weeks away from competing at the top level, I don’t hold out any hope for him playing in the away game against Zenit, never mind the home game.  You will remember Brendan Rodgers took a long time before allowing Tom to play an entire 90 minutes, suggesting latent concerns about the player’s natural fitness.  I have him down for an appearance at the end of the month.

Zenit got the better of Maribor in Turkey on Saturday in their final warm-up game before facing Celtic, although the Slovenians, also on a midterm break, had more of the play and chances. There is little confidence ahead of Thursday’s Europa League tie, but that nervousness you feel in July, when we leave for Scandinavia to play a team 22 games into their season, will be felt in Russia right now.

Zenit may be stronger, but we have reasons to be hopeful.

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  1. embramike says ” Yer team’s deid…Beat it!” on

    Bada / BMCUW

     

     

    UEFA Champions League Referees were selected on their performance level from different countries. How much money do a champions league referee get paid per match and annually. Many times controversies took place due to a wrong decision and it later highlighted by sports media. So there are new technology introduced for the matches to keep the game fair and clean. In past few years there are huge improvement take place in the decision making.

     

     

    UEFA Champions League Referees Salaries 2018

     

    Category Ref Asst 4th Official

     

    Elite $8,000 $2,500 $1,000

     

    Elite Dev $5,500 $1,500 $750

     

    First $3,250 $1,000 $550

     

    Second $1,500 $650 $350

     

    Third $1,000 $450 $200

     

     

    Elite are the professional referees who got experienced of 5-7 years of football league careers. They have been selected for the big matches of knockout round, semi finals, round of 16 and finals. Felix Brych the German match official who is selected for the final of champions league 2017 (Real Madrid vs Juventus) earn $8,000. The elite category referees get paid ($7,000-$8,000) per match.

     

     

    Collum will be our only Elite due to Thomson’s age retirement. Madden is Cat 1

  2. traditionalist88 on

    THE HANDS CANT HIT WHAT THE EYES CANT SEE on 13TH FEBRUARY 2018 12:16 PM

     

     

    Secondly, it’s completely pointless to suggest names. For example, I think we should sign Svenn Crone a defender from Brondby- a name I have picked at random. What now? Do i send this to Celtic? Do we argue about this theoretical signing? I can’t comprehend how this is helpful in anyway…but that is your suggestion for this matter.

     

     

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    If you want to dictate strategy then don’t do half a job. If theres no one available to fit your strategy, you need a new strategy!

     

     

    Svenn Crone, finally a suggestion of sorts. Not sure how accurate but he has a transfermarkt value of 500k.

     

     

    So you already have a new strategy, it seems.

  3. THE HANDS CANT HIT WHAT THE EYES CANT SEE on 13TH FEBRUARY 2018 12:16 PM

     

     

     

     

    SEÁNP1916 on 13TH FEBRUARY 2018 11:55 AM

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Where you “HAPPY” when Jozo signed for £4m or £6.75m depending on what source you take?

     

     

     

     

     

     

    YES? why? because he cost money?

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Are you happy now? NO? Why? because he has been unfit and frankly awful?

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Where you “HAPPY” when Kris Ajear signed for buttons? depending on what source you take?

     

     

     

     

     

     

    No? because he wasn’t expensive enough and was a project?

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Are you happy now? YES? Why? because he has been largely impressive when he has played?

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Moral of the story! its not about spending money its about identifying the right players . Sometimes the club gets this wrong absolutely, but they also get a lot right. We dpo not know yet if Compper, Hendry, Bain and Musonda will be a Jozo or a Ajer yet so claim money needs to be spend is also at this stage a BIG UNKNOWN.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    What we can say is the perceived weaker areas of the team where addressed by the club through adding additions to the squad.

  4. Paul67

     

     

    Hmmm.

     

     

    Needs must though, and Tom Rogic wasn’t rushed back before because we didn’t need his game as much as we need it now.

     

     

    He’s ahead of Armstrong in the queue to inject some much needed thrust behind the main attackers.

     

     

    I think he’ll feature at home probably from the bench especially when we have players not doing it.

  5. Sean 1916 @12.08

     

     

    “but unless I have missed something what “continued cheating by the club currently playing out of Ibrox.” Is happening at the moment?”

     

     

    No Sevco Cheating??

     

     

    (Quick reply, heading out, thanks for the response).

     

     

    Do you believe that Dave King is a ‘Fit and Proper Person’? Who sat on the SFA Biard that passed him ‘fit’.

     

     

    What about Club 1872? Have you looked in detail at their operation?

     

     

    What about Sevco’s accounts?

     

     

    What about the apparent strategy on putting in bids for players with the intention of unsettling players?

     

     

    What about soft loans? No NOMAD?

     

     

    What about 54 Ritles on Neil Doncaster’s SPFL Website?

     

     

     

    Silence to it all. Just deafening silence…

     

     

    In terms of Celtic buying players? What about motivating the players we have? What about managing them? What about a review of our recent recruitment failings before talking about spending more?

  6. GlassTwoThirdsFull on

    Paul’s article from last week said Zenit play 4-2-2-1-1.

     

    Think I would go with a midfield diamond. Brown, Kouassi, Ntcham/Armstrong if fit, McGregor. Forrest up front as a second striker.

     

    Sinclair and Rogic (not falling for that one, Paul!) to come on if we need a goal.

  7. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    SEANP

     

     

    Dunno what your problem is. Most Celtic fans are delighted when we get a new player.

     

     

    We don’t judge him until we see him,but we welcome him with open arms.

     

     

    Stop opening rifts,you must be the only poster in history never once to take on board an argument against you.

  8. Barney67

     

     

    Maybe get him to wear skis? I had to laugh at stats that showed De Bruyne at the top of the ‘assists’ list, with the GOAT in second, from August 2015 to the present day. “Even better than Messi”, the presenter gushed. Only problem being, Wee Leo has scored well over 100 goals in that time, while setting up plenty for others, while the excellent Kevin has maybe 20.

     

     

    Excellent, but not an alien!

  9. The truth is out there with regards the rangers cheating , the truth is out there with regards hampden hq ,s part in covering it up . Evidence by the barrowload , yet this charade is still ongoing . Is it open to the fans to crowd fund a challenge to this debacle , because they are still cheating us . Anyone who was at the last few games will have seen the officials Taking an active part in our games , and not fairly . Because of our clubs acceptance of these matters .things will only get worse . The assaults on young Kieran being only a part . It’s only a matter of time before he is dealt a right bad one .

  10. VFR800 is now a Monster 821 on

    Word of The Day

     

     

    Confusticate. (kuh n-fuhs-ti-keyt)

     

     

    verb (used with object), confusticated, confusticating.

     

    1. Slang. to confuse or perplex; bewilder.

     

     

    Word Origin and History for confusticate

     

    v.

     

    mid-19c., a fantastical American English coinage from confound or confuse, perhaps originally in minstrel show comedy, along with confubuscate, conflabberated, etc.

     

     

    KTF

  11. Go tell the Spartim on

    Thought we werent going to add to the squad for the sake of it.

     

     

    Seems we have, or is that all part of the risk averse strategy we are so successful at?

     

     

    I appreciate that the way we play leaves us open at times, but more than a fair chunk of goals are down to piss poor defending, has this been addressed either thru coaching or new recruits, i think we can say with some certainty, at this point, the answer would be no.

     

     

    keepcashunderthefloorboards CSC

  12. BMCUWP

     

    “Stop opening rifts,you must be the only poster in history never once to take on board an argument against you.”

     

     

    I can think of at least one other. ;-)

  13. MIT:

     

     

    I remembered there was a dog in Alistair MacLeod’s “No Great Mischief” but had forgotten it was female. Regardless, the dog is given no name. But having got the book out I kept finding

     

     

    ‘Chalum’ which would be a fine name for a new pup!

     

     

    Best of luck! Hope you get him.

     

     

    T

  14. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    GOTELLTHESPARTIM

     

     

    That’ll work. Stay in,guard yer stash,miss the world moving on.

     

     

    And yer notes going out of date!!!

  15. Zenit ?

     

     

    Tv stuff from Mancini .

     

     

    We are disadvantaged in consequence of not having played a competitive match in 2 months . We have prepared as well as they could in the circumstances .

     

     

    Expect a tough game v a very aggressive and competitive team .. Amazing crowd /atmosphere etc. We have watched them ,we know what to expect . A draw would be a good result

     

     

    Got a bit shirty at a journo’s claim that Brendan Rodgers had opined that his Zenit team was less defensive than his Manchester City team — Did he say that ? -if he did -he is wrong !

  16. I would think that dumping over 100 million pounds worth of debt by stopping being Rangers, and then, with the backing of the football ‘authorities’ and the SMSM, claiming to be that same Rangers once the responsibility for paying that debt has gone, constitutes pretty huge cheating for me. And that’s why, unfortunately, I’m in the regrettably small ‘Once bitten, twice shy’ clique.

  17. I fear I may be kicking a hornets nest here and probably should allow this to slide by without a response but F-IT I am at work and bored

     

     

    TIN HAT AT THE READY

     

     

    CLOGHER CELT on 13TH FEBRUARY 2018 12:34 PM

     

    Sean 1916 @12.08

     

     

     

     

     

     

    “but unless I have missed something what “continued cheating by the club currently playing out of Ibrox.” Is happening at the moment?”

     

     

     

     

     

     

    No Sevco Cheating??

     

     

     

     

     

     

    (Quick reply, heading out, thanks for the response).

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Do you believe that Dave King is a ‘Fit and Proper Person’? Who sat on the SFA Biard that passed him ‘fit’.

     

     

    I would class this as part of the historical issues that are unresolved which I completely understand the frustrations with, personally I would not define this as cheating more governance issues

     

     

     

     

    What about Club 1872? Have you looked in detail at their operation?

     

     

    Don’t quite understand what Club 1872 would have in the response to the question I posed? They are a bunch of “see you next Tuesdays” no question but again what impact does that of on the current cheating you referenced?

     

     

     

     

    What about Sevco’s accounts?

     

     

    This is an issue but as it stands FFP isn’t really being enforced anywhere across Europe

     

     

     

     

    What about the apparent strategy on putting in bids for players with the intention of unsettling players?

     

     

    FFS am I actually defending Sevco. I fear I may burn in hell for this but as unpalatable as this is clubs are entitled to bid what they want. The selling club then has the right to tell them to GTF. The measurability of unsettling a player is difficult if not impossible unless like VVD did the player goes on record about it

     

     

     

     

    What about soft loans? No NOMAD?

     

     

    Is this breaking any rules? Not sure it is?

     

     

     

     

    What about 54 Ritles on Neil Doncaster’s SPFL Website?

     

     

    I will repeat my first response here – I would class this as part of the historical issues that are unresolved which I completely understand the frustrations with, personally I would not define this as cheating more governance issues

     

     

     

    Silence to it all. Just deafening silence

     

     

     

    In terms of Celtic buying players? What about motivating the players we have? What about managing them? What about a review of our recent recruitment failings before talking about spending more?

     

     

    Recent recruitment failures???? Name one player that has been signed since Brendan took over that has been a “FAILURE” as you put it? There are guys like Gamboa and De Vries who have struggled to get in the team but is that not more measurable based on the performances of the players ahead of them. Craig Gordon improved 10 fold once DDV came in so the signing of the player actually you could argue had a positive impact on the team.

  18. Napoli liquidated in 1994 , had to start in the 3rd tier of Italian football , couldn’t buy their History back until 1996 , is Napoli the same club and is this the same model which the Sfa followed. And if it is, why have they not come out said it was used previously before and is all above board? Is my facts correct?

  19. And remember, one of the main voices of the complicit ‘authorities’ is Dungcaster.

     

     

    Head up a new Governing Body? Send for Vince McMahon!

  20. Traditionalist 88 and SeanP1916

     

     

    Of course there are difficulties in the transfer market – but that’s why we pay people a lot of money to be experts and find the talent. Our past history is chequered and may always be chequered (no one gets it right all the time).

     

     

    However what you are both advocating is a high risk strategy, ultimately leading to ever decreasing circles. Celtic’s fear to reinvest some of the success we have had is obvious – but what is its purpose? Just in case we have a bad year? Well not only will you cause yourself to have a bad year but when you do your cycle of fear will just get worse.

     

     

    There is no vision nor purpose to the current approach. What we should be doing is reinvesting to make the team better (we singularly failed to do that in the transfer window despite what Brendan asked for) and generating greater chances of success and bigger transfer fees.

     

     

    Instead we are shaking in a corner – scared to move.

  21. Watching the Olympics fairly brings back childhood memories of Lanarkshire and the surrounding landscapes. Our houses, like most in the area were surrounded by ‘Bings’ enormous mounds of molten black ash, shale, grit, sharp stones, dotting the skyline

     

     

    There was one Bing that stood out in particular, don’t know what they were mining apart from coal, but the shale was pink and red chuckies, .a hundred and fifty feet high, sheer on one side, a veritable mountain in those days.

     

     

    Perfect boys paradise playing soadies ‘taking the Bing’ was a big ask ,retaking it, after you’d lost the latest skirmish against another group of cronies was a blissful feeling of triumph, in an imaginary campaign complete with sticks shaped as rifles .

     

     

    A great pastime though was ski-ing down the mountain track side at high speed on an old upturned car bonnet lid fresh from the local scrappie. Winter on ice or blistering hot sunshine filled days, never ending summer holidays we even had pairs and singles events, and points for prizes till dusk when weary Olympians trudged home through the scheme, back into the real world.

     

     

    Soadies, best man falls, kerbie, tennis (with no net), beds, KDRF, bawry, three n in, finals, mouldmasters, (from school) Hampden Fridos, Wembley Regulations, catching sticklebacks and minnows from the Clyde, a piece for your dinner, a Celtic all green strip, or your big brothers green and white Hooped socks?

     

     

    Parents, in our scheme, never seemed to worry what we got up to so long as we were home at dusk. Holidays, were endless, we spent days on end, playing soccer in the mornings, the afternoons, and nights, all together no animosity, no angst.

     

     

    Nostalgia enriches the memory, but life was simpler back then because no-one told us we were poor or deprived etc. as everyone we knew was the same and merely fellow Olympians in the day

  22. BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on 13TH FEBRUARY 2018 12:36 PM

     

     

    Apologise Bobby I thought there was a debate happening about the transfer strategy? I will however just accept everything you say now and change my views to be compatible with yours.

     

     

    Thank you for providing such excellent tutoring.

     

     

    “Dunno what your problem is. Most Celtic fans are delighted when we get a new player?”

     

     

    Have you read any of my posts??? I have been defending the transfer policy????

  23. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    BARNEY67

     

     

    Haha,aye,pastry. Changed his moniker but couldnae change his style of posting. A five year old could have caught him out.

     

     

    ACGR did a perfect Mrs Pastry one night-so good,it caught one of our more esteemed posters out for a bit!

     

     

    The Swinging Dick,he used to post as ANTIFA,which meant he had to post childish lefty comments. So I suppose that counts too,since he normally only posted childish righty comments.

     

     

    Aye,yer right,there’s some people who don’t know how to construct and deconstruct an argument,and stick to their own point of view.

     

     

    Which,btw,is what human interaction and intelligent discussion is about.

     

     

    And a blog,come to that…

     

     

    HH,bud. Good point.

  24. NegAnon2 on 13th February 2018 12:53 pm

     

     

    Our wage bill in BR’s first season increased 41% from the previous (£52.2m from £36.9m), does that not count as investment in the team??

     

     

    I thought the manager said he got what he wanted in the transfer window that’s just closed. Maybe he lied!

  25. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    SEANP

     

     

    It was a reference to your post at 1231

     

     

    Can I add a lack of self-awareness to your problems?

  26. NAPOLI –

     

     

    Declared bankrupt in August 2004

     

     

    Renamed themselves -Napoli Soccer . Placed in Serie C1

     

     

    Refounded as Societa Sportiva Calcio Napoli ( their original name ) .in 2006 .

     

     

    Done in accordance with Italian business /financial law and in accordance with the Rules and Regulations of The Italian FA .. Same as Fiorentina . Not the same as the Deady Bears who were ” Facilitated and Accommodated ” and aided and abetted by a Temporary Licence .

     

     

    i

  27. NEGANON2 on 13TH FEBRUARY 2018 12:53 PM

     

     

    I like reading your posts you generally get your arguments across in excellent detail and I admire that about you.

     

     

    On this one I have to say, you appear to be falling into the spend more money catch all argument without being able to articulate how that money should be spent that would improve the chances of improving Celtic’s status as a club in the competitions they play in.

     

     

    I want Celtic to get better, I mentioned previously my natural gut reaction to the transfer window was MEH! But when I sit down and think about all the facts around the situation I come to the conclusion that the club are deploying the right approach all things being equal. I will repeat they did address the areas that the vast majority of people on here wanted addressed and throughout all of this debate no one that I have read has been able to offer up a better alternative to what the club delivered in the transfer window.

  28. BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on 13TH FEBRUARY 2018 1:05 PM

     

     

    I’ll add that to my things to learn from your excellent tutoring.

     

     

    Thanks

  29. traditionalist88 on

    NEGANON2 on 13TH FEBRUARY 2018 12:53 PM

     

     

    However what you are both advocating is a high risk strategy, ultimately leading to ever decreasing circles. Celtic’s fear to reinvest some of the success we have had is obvious – but what is its purpose? Just in case we have a bad year? Well not only will you cause yourself to have a bad year but when you do your cycle of fear will just get worse.

     

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    I’m not advocating the current perceived strategy as such, I am simply asking those who advocate what you are to consider what is actually involved in making it work.

     

     

    The starting point is a finite talent pool, with increased competition from other clubs with more money than us. Some with more money than sense. Thats if we get to the negotiating table and the player is interested.

     

     

    HH

  30. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    SEANP

     

     

    Waste of time,mate,if you don’t listen.

     

     

    Canny educate pork,learnt that a long time ago.

  31. The hands cant hit what the eyes cant see on

    @ SEÁNP1916 on 13TH FEBRUARY 2018 12:31 PM

     

     

    We have heard continually that Celtic do not and never will stand a chance against Zenit and teams of their ilk on account of the amount of money they spend. It’s clear that people evidently draw comparisons between money spend and the quality of the team.

     

     

    Why does this not follow with Celtic? Why do people question (in regard to Celtic) whether spending more will produce better quality on the park when they so meekly accept that proposition when it is applied to other teams?

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