Tonight Sevco accepted all outstanding penalties attributable to the SFA membership of soon-to-be-liquidated Rangers. They also agreed that if Rangers are found to have cheated for over a decade by illegally registering players that they will be subject to whatever penalties Rangers would be due, in order to acquire Rangers SFA membership.
Only a week ago Ally McCoist insisted he would not be party to such a deal, it remains to be seen if that they were empty words.
The Scottish Premier League will now continue with its inquiry into the alleged dual-contracts Rangers operated during the Sir David Murray era. I confidently predict the findings will reveal Rangers did not operate within the same rules as every other club, since at least the last century. The former club will be stripped of all league titles and cups. Celtic will be awarded league titles for 2003, 2005, 2009, 2010 and 2011, creating a new Scottish record of 12 consecutive league championship wins.
Sevco will be liable for any punishment due for these years of operating with shadow contracts, the likely severity of which will reflect the enormity of the offence.
Should the First Tier Tribunal find that Rangers evaded paying up to £75m of social taxes, which is explicitly against Fifa and SFA rules, the SFA disciplinary tribunal will punish Sevco, the successor club now due to inherit Rangers SFA membership.
If you are on the receiving end of this, the future will appear daunting. If you stood at Rugby Park, Fir Park, Celtic Park, St Mirren Park or Caledonian Stadium, when Celtic effectively or actually ‘lost’ league titles while observing the rules, the cumulative effects of punishments on a rival are meaningless, you will want trophies awarded to those who were prepared to endure defeat while observing the rules.
One day soon the world will know, you were not paranoid after all!
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Good morning friends form a very wet and grey looking East Kilbride.
I am confused (as usual) – Sevco are taking on Rnagers punishments if they ever happen. Clear enough.
Potentially Sevco have accepted a licence which may involve them having to accept a suspension from football if the use of dual contracts is, as expected, found to have happened over more than a decade.
This must also open them up to the possibility that not only will they have to take the sporting punishments for not paying taxes but also the real legally binding fiscal ones – ie a big feckin’ bill on the doormat.
Of course they could not and would not accept this. Green must be pretty sure that HMRC won’t come after Newco. My question is – why? If they are assuming the mantle of Oldco, playing at Ibrox, same customers, same name, same colours, trading in the same business – how can they avoid being pursued by the tax man for the bills of the old club?
Are we witnessing yet more monumental mistakes?
I think Green is betting on a newco actually playing and having the sympathy vote from the laptop loyal as not to be touched after all the hassles of getting them up and running.
We don’t care what the animals say. We play Milan,we have European football,we are playing la-liga champions in a glamour friendly,we are 1/33 to win the TOP league in Scotland. We will be on 15 in a row by the time the Huns get back.
Feck u Rangers Celtic is number 1. Brechin in the ramsden cup. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
I see that a shabby little deal was agreed last night to let a new club into the SFA. Preferential treatment for a club with no history, no dignity and no shame – but then we all expected that.
McCoist is playing to the crowd one again with his mad statement. The bears will love him even more – but to any right thinking person he is a hypocritical balloon who typifies the “we expect everything” sense of entitlement inherent in the hun.
He mentions 10 months of mismanagement – what about the ten years plus of cheating before that? It’s like Ben Johnson asking for his gold medal back because he won the race.
The SPL must now get the stalled inquiry restarted.They must expose to the world the scale of the cheating that was carried out by the former Rangers. And they must impose the appropriate sanctions. For any other club that would be expulsion.
I’ve always said that Sevco is a new club and should be treated as such. In accordance with the established rules of football. No favours and no new sanctions, just fair and impartial application of the laws.
But if they want to continue this absurd farce that they are Rangers then they need to accept what they are claiming as theirs. A rotten and corrupt club that lied and cheated its way to honours.
Simple statement from Celtic
If rangers are the same company they can pay there outstanding taxes.
Good morning,
Is anyone meeting up before the game for a pint, would love to put faces to names.
Hail Hail.
RT
HMRC stated when BDO were appointed that they were happy for football still to be played at Ipox. HMRC are chasing the directors and managers , expect tax bills to be dropping through doors, goodness knows what when on there, consider this Bain sent out an email stating ” I’m I the only one paying tax here ….”
In that environment, BDO will have a field day banning directors for life, sending charges to the SFO , tax bills being retrospectively calculated , it will be joyous to behold.
Silver City 1888 on 28 July, 2012 at 09:28 said:
I’d be glad if he is rested. Picture of him the other day with the big black boot thing on worried the bejesus out of me!
HH
/Bishop B
Settling football creditors in full but other ordinary creditors get zilch?
This could be fun!
I’m sure similar sentiments have been echoed elsewhere but let’s hope in order to secure their licence the Sevco satisfied the powers that be that they can fulfil their seasons fixture commitments. It’d be a huge embarrasment for all concerned if they got shoe horned in and couldn’t and we wouldn’t want that now, would we?
EKBhoy- the day Billy Dodds’ postman delivers his retrospective tax bill will be one of great joy.
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I didn’t see his protective footwear. I assumed he was well on the mend after coming on last game of the season.
Just logged on
What a fantastic leader. OUR DAY IS COMING
Yous can run but yous cant hide fat boy.
Thank you Paul67 DAY MADE AND ITS ONLY 10.22
Knowing the Grim reaper is looking over their shoulder whispering “where can i find cheat fc , In have work to do” makes our wait all the more enjoyable.
I have 2 orcs in particular from Fir park day I will be paying a visit.
Ps POSTIE JUST DELIVERED CQN BADGE AM I OFFICIALLY NOW IN A CLIQUE:))
THANK YOU CRC & BB
God bless WEE OSCAR
HAIL HAIL
Marrakesh
Aye,the huns are a bit like Robert De Niro at the end of Cape Fear and the fact they protest too much says it all but they’ll all know deep down that their supporting an artificial version.
I wished i had a long Arm so i could get 12 Stars on it
Was just thinkin…[still recovering]
The souness ebt while at blackburn were. A shocking revelation even tho it may have been unsurprising, and I wonder…is it possible that a player or players of SPL teams were recipients of such incentives…..??
Having to drag myself away from the women’s beach volleyball to catch bus to the game. Thinks .. perhaps the SPL could set up a televised league to increase viewer numbers?
Viewers would be safe because ‘they’ are no longer in the SPL. Could you just have imagined it – in those skimpy costumes … ? Nearly lost my breakfast … !
Good run out today will take my mind of that nightmare vision …
HH
good luck to all the lucky bhoys today going to paradise, would love to be there
we deserve to be playing teams like inter milan,always have been always will be proud to be a celt
come on you bhoys in green
Looking forward to going to the game today with my bhoy, will be in the defenders lounge in the north stand if any cqners are about, should have my retro badge on!
As I am just back from Greece, I may go to well v panathanikos on Tuesday, my bhoy has a Greece top and I have a pana one, we live next to the stadium, so thought I would give them some dough after the vote!
Any thoughts?
any laptop experts out there?
going to buy the missus a laptop,on a tight budget.
would like advice on the brands to stay away from. its pretty much for everyday and work use…no gaming or anything
one other question…are the orcs still allowed to run out wearing the 5 fag burns above crest?
Foxy
Just I thought you were behaving yourself
WTF. Are you on about “actively dissuading “…, nonsense
Even if i was do you think your …All mouths and no trousers p1sh would have stopped me
You going on Wednesday …simple question , please answer
If so up for a chat ?
So the opportunity to rid Scotland of THE focal point for hatred, bigotry, and sectarianism is lost.
This was THE one opportunity to cut this blight out from the heart of Scotland.
They will be back eventually, and it will be triumphed by the MSM at every step, referees will be pressured, honest mistakes preserved.
Well done SFA, SFL, and SPL you have just closed the door on any positive future for Scottish football.
I feel sorry for all of the decent teams and towns in Scottish football who will now suffer ‘visits’ by the dregs of society, make no mistake the ones that will cling on to the re-animated corpse of RFC will be the ones who hate the most, they will spew their pathetic, hate filled views across the land, and be applauded by the MSM for doing so.
It remains to be seen if the police will grow a pair and start enforcing the law, after all one of the excuses for not dealing with the sectarian songs and behaviour was they did not have enough officers to deal with 40000 bigots, lets see how they get on with handling a few hundred breaking the law of the land in front of their eyes.
I was looking forward to a future in Scottish Football were my young sons could follow Celtic FC safe in the knowledge that wearing the hoops was a show of allegiance to Celtic FC and not to a religion, sure in the knowledge that the league system would be fair with a level playing field, that opportunity is now lost, I will now not encourage my sons to wear the hoops as I have had enough violent experience of wearing them through the years, I really thought there was a bright future just around the corner, that has now been snuffed out.
RIP Scottish Football 27 July 2012
no, I’M Neil Lennon “i’ll never walk alone” (fourstonecoppi ) on 28 July, 2012 at 10:34 said:
If you don’t need CD/DVD on it, think about a netbook. I had to replace a laptop recently and went for netbook. The HDD is now the same size as my previous laptop (last time I was in the market they had no memory to speak of) and the only thing smaller is the RAM – which doesn’t really matter if you’re not gaming or doing serious video editing.
………super ally……..the mouthpiece that just gives and gives! we live in special times…….and it’s only just begun…..enjoy
hail. hail
Mornin bhoys and ghirls,bit off info from ur goodselfs if u please, comin from ek is the new velodrome available for parking yet ??
dvd/cd is essential i’m afraid
RobertTressell @ 10:01,
It is a very odd naunced situation.
They seem to be arguing that the R@ngers Company is a seperate entity from the Club.
The Company is in the process of being liquidated so a new Company was incorporated who are not resopnsible for the liabilities of the Old Company. They bought the Footballing and associated assets of the Club from the Old Company and the New Company can act as a vechicle for the Club.
No idea how this works legally but if I was Charles Green I would have dumped the history and started up a new club called (furinstance) Rangers United and relaunched in Division III, we know the SFA would have facilitated this.
Why take the risk of being seen as a Pheonix and leave yourself vunerable to indeterminable sanctions and costs in both Footballing and Corporate terms?
My theory with the History in place, warts an’awe makes the sale to real R@nger’s men more attractive. Mr Green has no intention of being near that fan when it hits.
I could be wrong but if Charles Green is signing up for this I would say he will be selling up, settling up and getting out of dodge pronto.
goldstar10 on 28 July, 2012 at 10:18 said:
‘Settling football creditors in full but other ordinary creditors get zilch?
This could be fun!’
The public exchequer ie schools, hospitals, home helps etc etc etc lose out but football doesn’t.
It’s tantamount to bribery.
Pay money to the SFA, the SPL and the member clubs and you can get a registration even though you don’t meet the entry criteria.
There’s no integrity left in the Scottish game.
Vaultbhoy
The powers that be may have failed
However the matter is far from over …the EBT & dual contracts matters have a long way to run yet
They are far from safe …besides which Green has no money they’ll be burst ,again , soon enough
I wonder if they can gain promotion from div 3 with a significant points deduction …we’re Dundee not docked 25 points for going into admin for the second time
Chairbhoy on 28 July, 2012 at 10:44 said:
‘Why take the risk of being seen as a Pheonix and leave yourself vunerable to indeterminable sanctions and costs in both Footballing and Corporate terms?’
Because newco doesn’t meet the entry criteria of the SFL.
They need the pretence of being a descendant of the oldco to be a member of the league.
The Spirit of Arthur Lee on 28 July, 2012 at 10:29 said:
I wished i had a long Arm so i could get 12 Stars on it
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I’m going to get mine somewhere else.
….PFayr on 28 July, 2012 at 10:47 said:
If you look at the sanction Glennie’s judgement he more or less says suspension or exclusion would have been appropriate for Whyte’s 10 months of mismanagement.
If that’s the tariff, what the hell would the sanction be for Murray’s tenure?
Foxy
Pfayr answered your question about whether he was a season ticket holder.
Will you extend me the same courtesy to the same question?
no, I’M Neil Lennon “i’ll never walk alone” (fourstonecoppi ) on 28 July, 2012 at 10:34 said:
I bought an acer laptop and i find the keyboard to be very poor.
in fact it´s just packed up this morning and i´m using the virtual keyboard.
A right pain in the bum.
Chairbhoy
I think you’re right re Green
The Huns wouldn’t have accepted a Newco without their miserable history . ….Green has to be seen to be protecting this
He’ll have security over the assets so can’t lose .if BDO question the sale he gets his money back
He might win,probably doesnt have that much to lose
ht – your brick?!
You know, the one your pupils bought you?!
T4
HT
The tattoo artist better have a very small needle then :-))